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Since half of the threads on this board are about Islam and Mormonism. (Is that even a word?) I decided maybe a change of topic was needed!

Satanism -

What do you think it is? There are many different types so be honest. Break it down to the different types if you’d like.

What do you think people who practice it actually do?

Those of you who aren’t christian:

Who, if anyone, do you believe is responsible for the reprehensable actions of mankind? I know some of the regulars believe in more then one god. What do you believe these gods do to influence mankind, anything? How do you deal with them?

Have you ever seen these ‘evils’ at work? What type of experiences would you associate with them, it, he, she, etc etc.

I still have my access, and I need something interesting to read today. I’m curious about what you have to say.

NOTE: I’m not looking for your opinions on the people who practice satanism, wicca or any other religion that isn’t christian/catholosim. Avoid any mention of mormons and Islam!
 
I dont know anything about satanism and to be honest, dont want to know about it!
Its the worship of the dark one.
My question is, why on earth would a person want to worship the devil when all he will do is betray, be dishonest, lie, cheat, steal… the list goes on… for you???
God is the truth, the light and the way. He is the only one I will EVER worship.
 
LaVeyan Satanism strikes me as arrogant and selfish, much like Objectivism; actual devil-worshipping as just another sect of Christianity (an especially silly one, at that – the Christian Satan is all about screwing people over, and paying him homage isn’t going to change that).

I’m more or less familiar with the rites and rituals that go along with LaVeyan Satanism, at least; other branches are more individual practices and not well-recorded. What do you do?

As for who is responsible for human evil: we are. Passing the buck to a devil is irresponsible and childish – just as claiming a god causes our good is. The ideas of gods and devils can inspire us to greater good and evil, but we’re still the authors of our own deeds.
 
Satanism is really anti-religion at it’s most virulent… or atheism on steroids so to speak.

I cannot believe that anyone with even half a brain would really desire to worship Satan and plunge himself into the Hellfire, that just does not make much sense at all.
 
Imryl said:
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I always refer to the Book of Job. To me, this explains alot in regards to satan’s manipulation of mankind.

But if you want something more current, this guy Aaron Donahue, claims to be able to contact Lucifer/satan at will. Pretty evil.

We should do a Rosary Crusade against this guy and his teachings.

Here’s a couple of sites:

remoteviewer.org/remoteviewing/aaron-donahue.htm

ummo.cc/
 
Worshiping the devil himself is the most dangerous things to do

There is angels and dark angels

I personally believe that the illness of this century : depression, anxiety disorders, and other mental psychotics disorders, are due to evil manifestation…Trying to lead people to suicide

Evil manifestation can be by internal voices…some voices that are strange to use, that doesn’t belong to us…that makes you think in what you don’t want to think

And it can be a very awful thoughts

A person in such a condition of mental illness, can be a perfect victim for that Religion

Because without God…We are in hands of the devil
 
I feel like their rather worshiping themselves.
It’s all about selfishness and hedonism.
 
SFLCatholic said:
I always refer to the Book of Job. To me, this explains alot in regards to satan’s manipulation of mankind.
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The satan (little s) in Job is distinctly different from the later Christian Satan identified with Lucifer. ‘Satan’ means ‘opponent’ in the sense of a prosecuting attorney, not a supreme evil, and the satan is subservient to God, operating at his command and reporting back with the rest of the angels. All the angels have functions; the satan’s is to test humanity, to try to prove they are unworthy.

I really kinda sympathize with the guy, he’s got a cruddy job and knows it – but at least he gets to have a little fun now and then trying to keep God on his toes, though it’s ultimately frustrating.
 
Mirdath said:
The satan (little s) in Job is distinctly different from the later Christian Satan identified with Lucifer. ‘Satan’ means ‘opponent’ in the sense of a prosecuting attorney, not a supreme evil, and the satan is subservient to God, operating at his command and reporting back with the rest of the angels. All the angels have functions; the satan’s is to test humanity, to try to prove they are unworthy.

I really kinda sympathize with the guy, he’s got a cruddy job and knows it – but at least he gets to have a little fun now and then trying to keep God on his toes, though it’s ultimately frustrating.
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One could even speculate that the Joban satan might be a necessary element in the theosis of humanity.
 
I believe we are responsible for the reprehensible actions of mankind.
 
i know back in high school, kids were interested in satanism but i think it was just for shock value considering they listened to a cartoon “musician” they call marilyn manson. i don’t really think anyone takes it seriously. even LaVeys daughter Zeena said he was doing it for the money evem though some satanists say he wasn’t a true satanist. whatever. it’s all stupid.
 
Imryl, you to me seem unique in that you (if I’m not mistaken) believe literally in Samael, not as a concept or some “personification of evil,” right? I don’t know if he is really the embodiment of evil itself, as some claim, but perhaps just the first (or most notorious) sinner … a misguided spirit who leads himself to destruction …

In any case, you are unique because of your recognition of his reality, of his presence around us both, and do not simply hail him as a philosophical notion, as most “Satanists” do.

I would say this philosophical Satanism is the “norm” in this odd (with all respect, my friend) religion.

I have to wonder, you say that your views are like that of Roman Catholicism–am I right? How do you deal with … with having an innocent shed his blood for you? How do you feel about countless dying even this second for his name, who in many lands have been praying with all their soul and all their being for the Truth win out in your life and mine? Not just with damnation, mind you, but with the undeniable truth that even now you are loved? Loved with a love deeper than anything you or I could ever hope to comprehend?

I too have long since had an infatuation with the villain of the story. When I was younger I was obsessed with every horrid creature that leapt out to me from myths and legends. Even now I admit a movie is not truly good unless the antagonist is … Yet in reality, it is much harder for me to like the one who is trying to hurt, trying to kill. Remember it was Samael who so inspired wayward men to nail the Messiah down … and in doing so, killed himself, rather. Yeshua is my first, last, and greatest friend … I pity (but do not necessarily hate) the one who would cause this loyal one harm … On the road of life, none has ever been so faithful, so good … so everything no other human can quite be … as he has.

Anyway, I commend you, Imryl, for your constant curtisy here! Please forgive my brothers and sisters who mistreat you … They don’t quite understand that incomprehensible love yet … but we are getting there, slowly but surely …
 
In my experience, most satanists tend to claim “Satan doesn’t exist… I’m really worshipping myself”. What they don’t realize is that worship of Satan and worship of one’s own self are one and the same.

The evil one derives more benefit from people NOT believing he exists, if anything.
 
Imryl said:
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Satanism -

What do you think it is? There are many different types so be honest. Break it down to the different types if you’d like.
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I just know of the ones that practice the teachings from the church of satan so my post is in regards to them.
Imryl said:
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What do you think people who practice it actually do?
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They don’t believe in satan. They regard “satan” as a symbol. They believe in an eye for an eye. The will be nice to those that are nice to them. They will hit those who hit them…

web.satanism101.com/cospage.html
 
basically, they do whatever they want to do. i don’t think anything is morally wrong to these people. i may be wrong though.
they also make talk about lust a lot.
 
Satan is the devil, the evil one, the enemy.(Matt 4;10)
Satan directly opposes God and hinders God’s purpose (Zech 3;1 )
(Acts 26;18)
He slanders God and His people (Job 1;6-12)
He wants to control people and destroy them and their devotion to God (John 10;10)
Satan works thorugh temptation, deception and other subtile devices to take away the good God has given
( Mark 4;15 2 Cor 11;14 2 Thess 2;9 Rev 12;9)
His power will one day be taken away, and he will be thrown into hell, where he will be forever. (Rev. 20;10)

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So… give me one good reason to worship satan…

If you believe in satan, I think it’s safe to assume you believe in God too? You can’t have one without the other? Ying and yang sort of thing (for lack of a better description) So, that being said, if you look at what each stands for, God = goodness and peace, etc… and satan = evil and pain… why would anyone choose satan? I don’t think you need a diploma to figure that one out. Even an athiest would probably choose God if compelled to.
 
I think one of satans victories is the thought of a red pointed horned devil with a balloon caption stating “The devil made me do it” looking totally silly.

The Stones had it right, “a man of wealth and taste” not a clown in red tights.

Our underestimination and denial work well into his plans.
 
There is one type of Satanism that I have always found fascinating. I don’t have any links, sorry.

There are Satanists who consider Satan to be “the saviour” of the story, a kind of Promethian version character. They look at the Satan that they see in the Bible (especially the Hebrew Bible) and look at him as the one who was always sticking up for human kind.

They see it as their duty to better the human condition, and to spread education and self-sufficiency.
 
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