Satanists conduct "Black Masses." Do they also conduct "Black Bible study services"??

[Kitty_Chan]

He is a nice guy though, and he’s fairly easy to talk to… Besides, he’s managed not to shatter my perception of priests from when I was a kid. Which in my opinion, is a good thing otherwise I probably wouldn’t continue talking to him.

Wow this thread is moving along, gotta catch up

Ah well, btw Imryl I wanted to ask you about this you said earlier, what was your perception? Im not catholic so I have no frame of reference.

Im heading off for the weekend its our Thanksgiving in Canada so I may pop in but likely tues, dont want ya all to think me a aloof kind of cat Dont know if were going to have turkey or moose I may have subway Thats what you get when you have friends who live halfway up a mountain. Oh well have a good weekend all.

 

[Imryl]

Ah well, btw Imryl I wanted to ask you about this you said earlier, what was your perception? Im not catholic so I have no frame of reference.

Gentle and trustworthy. But I still don’t like him and I really don’t trust him, priest and all that.

Im heading off for the weekend its our Thanksgiving in Canada so I may pop in but likely tues, dont want ya all to think me a aloof kind of cat

Have a happy Thanksgiving. But I think we may have beaten this thread to death now, we’ve essentially reduced it to our personal chat room.

 

[Fa_Chan]

Yep.

Sorry sir, but I don’t believe that the dead can be contacted.

You believe the demons can be contacted, but not human spirits that have left their bodies? I would consider that illogical.

Fa Chan

 

[Fa_Chan]

Gentle and trustworthy. But I still don’t like him and I really don’t trust him, priest and all that.

Have a happy Thanksgiving. But I think we may have beaten this thread to death now, we’ve essentially reduced it to our personal chat room.

This thread really is about practices of Satanists, so I consider the topics discussed mainly to be in line with the thread topic. We have strayed a bit, but it’s hard not to when discussing broad things like this.

Fa Chan

 

[Imryl]

You believe the demons can be contacted, but not human spirits that have left their bodies? I would consider that illogical.

No, I don’t. I believe that when you die, you either go to heaven or hell.

This thread really is about practices of Satanists, so I consider the topics discussed mainly to be in line with the thread topic. We have strayed a bit, but it’s hard not to when discussing broad things like this.

I meant that it’s mostly just between a few of us and it appears to me that there isn’t much left to talk about

 

[Publisher]

You believe the demons can be contacted, but not human spirits that have left their bodies? I would consider that illogical.

Fa Chan

I think “logic” left the building quite a few posts back!!!

 

[dolphinlove]

Imryl,
Simple question, why dont you like God?
Just try this, let go of your anger and pray.
Not so hard is it?
I bet if you let yourself embrace God and pray to him, you will soon start seeing things in a different light.
Go on, give it a go.

 

[Imryl]

Simple question, why dont you like God?

He disgusts me.

 

[dolphinlove]

He disgusts me.

Please elaborate…
Why would someone who is all loving, would never hurt you, who wants the best for you, loves you, has provided everything for you, has given you a beautiful family, has done EVERYTHING wonderful in your life be so disgusting?
The only things disgusting in our lives are the sins and hate we create for ourselves. God has not done this, we do.
The only thing you should find disgusting is the devil, he is the master of deception and lies.
Im still praying for you Imryl, i truly hope you find God.
Remember, even though you dont believe in him, he believes in you, he still loves you.
Now that isnt disgusting is it?

 

[Imryl]

Please elaborate…
Why would someone who is all loving, would never hurt you, who wants the best for you, loves you, has provided everything for you, has given you a beautiful family, has done EVERYTHING wonderful in your life be so disgusting?

Well for one, I don’t attribute my good fortune to him. And I suppose those other qualities don’t stir the same reaction in me as it does others.

The only things disgusting in our lives are the sins and hate we create for ourselves.

I see nothing disgusting about sin. It has it’s uses.

Remember, even though you dont believe in him, he believes in you, he still loves you.
Now that isnt disgusting is it?

As a matter of fact, it is.

 

[Delraek]

imryl,

Do you know other satanists and, if so, are they like you? I’m assuming that you don’t participate in any “black masses” or anything?

Why do you want to spend eternity in hell? Most people who sin and don’t care don’t really believe hell exists!

 

[latinmasslover]

imryl,

how would you feel if somebody locked your husband, daughter, mother, father, etc. in a room and set it on fire? Why would you want them to condemn themselves to an eternity of that?

 

[dolphinlove]

Well for one, I don’t attribute my good fortune to him. And I suppose those other qualities don’t stir the same reaction in me as it does others.

Well all good comes from God, like it or not, its a fact.

I see nothing disgusting about sin. It has it’s uses.

Sin only inflicts hurt and pain, and the only uses it has is the devils will, no good ever comes out of a sin.

As a matter of fact, it is.

If that disgusts you, i truly feel sorry for you.
Having the person who created you and gave you everything you got today, still believes in you and love you, and you give him hate in return… I think it takes a pretty remarkable person to still love you when all you do is hate them, dont you think?

Can i ask you something??
Do you cause your child to sin?

 

[Imryl]

Do you know other satanists and, if so, are they like you? I’m assuming that you don’t participate in any “black masses” or anything?

I do know a few, but no they’re not like me and I don’t associate with them. To be honest I look down on all of them but one. I have particular expectations when it comes to this subject. And while they may worship the devil I personally think it takes more then wearing black, being completely unmotivated and self destructive.

No, I don’t participate in black masses.

Why do you want to spend eternity in hell?

I don’t really know how to answer that question.

Why would you want them to condemn themselves to an eternity of that?

Well at least you got that part right. The difference between setting a room on fire and spending eternity in hell is choice on their behalf. I also don’t believe hell is all fire and brimstone… not that it would matter if it were. Why would I want them to? I answered that already. Bottom of post #89

Can i ask you something?? Do you cause your child to sin?

My daughter is still too young to worry about that. But - like I said, I don’t really approve of doing anything that might hinder their development. When she gets a lot older, then I likely would depending one what type of sin. Homicide no, abortion yes.

 

[dolphinlove]

Well at least you got that part right. The difference between setting a room on fire and spending eternity in hell is choice on their behalf. I also don’t believe hell is all fire and brimstone… not that it would matter if it were. Why would I want them to? I answered that already. Bottom of post #89

Imryl, i want you to read this. Its when Mary appeared to the children of Fatima, and she revealed what hell is like, read this:

At Fatima, the Blessed Virgin Mary told the three child seers that many souls go to hell because they have no one to pray or make sacrifices for them. In her Memoirs, Sister Lucy describes the vision of hell that Our Lady showed the children at Fatima:

"She opened Her hands once more, as She had done the two previous months. The rays [of light] appeared to penetrate the earth, and we saw, as it were, a vast sea of fire. Plunged in this fire, we saw the demons and the souls [of the damned]. The latter were like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, having human forms. They were floating about in that conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames which issued from within themselves, together with great clouds of smoke. Now they fell back on every side like sparks in huge fires, without weight or equilibrium, amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fright (it must have been this sight which caused me to cry out, as people say they heard me). The demons were distinguished [from the souls of the damned] by their terrifying and repellent likeness to frightful and unknown animals, black and transparent like burning coals. That vision only lasted for a moment, thanks to our good Heavenly Mother, Who at the first apparition had promised to take us to Heaven. Without that, I think that we would have died of terror and fear."

Ive come to the conclusion no matter what we do or say is not going to change your mind, but in saying that, i have not lost hope that you will someday love and worship God.
I hope by reading this, it opens your heart and mind to goodness.

 

[Imryl]

Ive come to the conclusion no matter what we do or say is not going to change your mind, but in saying that, i have not lost hope that you will someday love and worship God. I hope by reading this, it opens your heart and mind to goodness.

How about you tell me why on earth you would worship him.

 

[dolphinlove]

How about you tell me why on earth you would worship him.

Because he saved me.
Ive had miracles in my life that have changed my life for the better.
When i was not following catholicism, i fell pregnant to a guy who did not want the baby, he begged me to get rid of it, which i did. Yes, i had an abortion. For months i was crying and basically going crazy, i had nowhere to turn, then i just out of the blue, went to church one day, and i just felt relief and peace for the first time in ages. I went to confession and felt i had been forgiven, but i was still beating myself up for what i did. I then found a brochure down the back of the church for project rachel, it was for people who had abortions and it helps them, i went to a retreat and that was when i finally came back to God once again, he had guided me to this group, and since that weekend, i vowed to worship him and give him thanks for saving me.
That is why i love him so much, that is why i worship him so much, and that is why my faith in him is so strong. He saved my life and gave me a chance after the evil i had commited.
Thanks be to him!
And there are many other reasons, like Jesus dying on the cross for our sins, giving us everything we have, there are thousands of reasons why i worship him.

 

[Linnyo]

Imryl,
Do you have a depressive illness? When I was ill, I used to wish that there was no God because all I wanted to do was enter a blissful ‘nothingness’. I resented God and the fact that He was stopping me from getting this nothingness. I used to lie in my bed and visualise tha ‘nothingness of death’ as I wanted it to be. If you feel like that then perhaps a psychologist is what you need. At the time, I had no reason for feeling this way or, at least I didn’t know the reason. But it turned out that I had deppression and that all I needed was medicine and a bit of help. BTW, I was also very self destructive at that time too.

 

[Imryl]

No Linnyo, I don’t. I do not lie in bed and have fantasies of floating into nothingness. It is obvious to me that I do not think or feel like the vast majority. While this may seem entirely foreign to you, this is truly how I have been my entire life.

I have read many stories and met several people who had some type of life changing experience… some incident in their life that either lead them too or away from God. But I have never had that type of experience. Quite simply, I have never liked god. My earliest memories of God, were never anything pleasant. I hated him then too.

Basically what I’m saying is this is completely natural to me. I’m not unhappy, angry, pissed off at the world, etc. I don’t go around obsessing over the devil or his fallen angles. I don’t rub my hands together and cackle madly if I see someone struggling, although I might smirk as I walk away.

I happen to enjoy my life.

It’s all right - I’ve spent a lot of time over the last few months trying to figure out why on earth I do what I do.

 

[strngrnrth]

I know why I worship God. It’s because He is all good, all wise, all loving, all just and inexpressibly merciful. The beauty of all that is created is a mere shadow of His beauty. And He will one day let me see Him in His beauty. He loves me, cares for me and wants me to be the best I can. He is the only One worthy of adoration. I love Him. That’s why I worship God.
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