Saudi Prince Backs Moving Planned NYC Mosque

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Saudi Prince Backs Moving Planned NYC Mosque
foxnews.com/world/2010/10/28/saudi-prince-backs-moving-planned-nyc-mosque/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates-- A Saudi prince who has aided the imam spearheading a proposed Islamic center near New York’s ground zero is appealing for another site not associated with the “wound” of the Sept. 11 attacks, a report said Thursday.

In interview excerpts published by the Dubai-based Arabian Business magazine, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal was quoted as saying that moving the planned mosque and other facilities would respect the memory of those killed in the 2001 attacks and allow American Muslims to choose a more suitable location.

The comments are reportedly the prince’s first public views on the dispute, which has stirred street protests and fiery debates between religious and political leaders over America’s freedom of worship versus the lingering anger over the 9/11 attacks.

Prince Alwaleed’s Kingdom Foundation has contributed to the group run by New York’s Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, but said he has given no funds to the planned center.

Prince Alwaleed urged the backers of the proposed Islamic center not to “agitate the wound by saying, 'We need to put the mosque next to the 9/11 site.”’

“Those people behind the mosque have to respect, have to appreciate and have to defer to the people of New York,” the prince was quoted as saying by the magazine, which said the full interview will be published Sunday. “The wound is still there. Just because the wound is healing you can’t say, 'Let’s just go back to where we were pre-9/11.”’

Prince Alwaleed, who chairs a Saudi investment company that has major stakes in international giants News Corp. and Citigroup, also said Muslims in New York should consider a more “dignified” location than the proposed site in lower Manhattan.

“It can’t be next to a bar or a strip club, or in a neighborhood that is not really refined and good. The impression I have is that this mosque is just being inserted and squeezed over there,” he said.
 
Well, the prince is obviously an anti-Muslim bigot…probably a Tea Party member. :rolleyes: 😛
 
Hope they listen to him. It would be a win-win situation. The New York Muslims would still have their Islamic Center and they’d garner good will by their willingness to make an accomodation. On the other side, non-Muslims will appreciate the good will gesture and will be able to see that the Muslims behind the Center aren’t inflexible.

Sounds good to me!
 
Hope they listen to him. It would be a win-win situation. The New York Muslims would still have their Islamic Center and they’d garner good will by their willingness to make an accomodation. On the other side, non-Muslims will appreciate the good will gesture and will be able to see that the Muslims behind the Center aren’t inflexible.

Sounds good to me!
I agree. I like his comments about the location too - vis-a-vis “bar…strip club.” I hope they find a more suitable site.
 
I agree. I like his comments about the location too - vis-a-vis “bar…strip club.” I hope they find a more suitable site.
That alone should have been reason enough not to build there. It isn’t a “hallowed” neighborhood by any stretch.
 
I would note that contrary to the impression American media/politics give, the Saudi royal family is not very popular or influential amongst Muslims. Al-Waleed bin Talal is particularly contemptible, he owns some of the most vicious sectarian newspapers in the Arab world (he also partially owns Fox News, funnily enough).
 
I would note that contrary to the impression American media/politics give, the Saudi royal family is not very popular or influential amongst Muslims. Al-Waleed bin Talal is particularly contemptible, he owns some of the most vicious sectarian newspapers in the Arab world (he also partially owns Fox News, funnily enough).
That may be contrary to the impression that European or Arab media/politics give, but it is not contrary to the impression that America media gives.
 
I would note that contrary to the impression American media/politics give, the Saudi royal family is not very popular or influential amongst Muslims. Al-Waleed bin Talal is particularly contemptible, he owns some of the most vicious sectarian newspapers in the Arab world (he also partially owns Fox News, funnily enough).
So the voice of the sane guy isn’t influential in the Muslim world?

Good to know.
 
That may be contrary to the impression that European or Arab media/politics give, but it is not contrary to the impression that America media gives.
Well I haven’t done serious research on this so I can’t document it empirically, but in my experience the US media treats the Saudis as if they’re representative of Muslims or Arabs far more than the European media does. For example note how many times you hear in the US media about there supposedly being a Sunni-Shi’a split in the Middle-east; their evidence for this being that there are two camps with Shi’a Iran, Sadrists and Hezbollah on one side and Sunni Saudis, King Star Trek of Jordan and Hariri Inc on the other. This analysis only makes sense if these Sunni leaders actually represent Sunnis generally; however polls show that the most popular leaders amongst Sunnis are the Shi’a Hasan Nasrallah and Muqtada Al-Sadr, that they want to be allies with Iran and the so-called “Sunni leaders” are deeply unpopular, showing that the split is not sectarian but is about something else.

As for the Arab media, well it depends whether its owned by the Saudi royal family or not, if so then they just parrot the American media (or perhaps the American media parrots the Saudi royal family media, it’s difficult to work out which way it goes)
 
That may be contrary to the impression that European or Arab media/politics give, but it is not contrary to the impression that America media gives.
Well I haven’t done serious research on this so I can’t document it empirically, but in my experience the US media treats the Saudis as if they’re representative of Muslims or Arabs far more than the European media does. For example note how many times you hear in the US media about there supposedly being a Sunni-Shi’a split in the Middle-east; their evidence for this being that there are two camps with Shi’a Iran, Sadrists and Hezbollah on one side and Sunni Saudis, King Star Trek of Jordan and Hariri Inc on the other. This analysis only makes sense if these Sunni leaders actually represent Sunnis generally; however polls show that the most popular leaders amongst Sunnis are the Shi’a Hasan Nasrallah and Muqtada Al-Sadr, that they want to be allies with Iran and the so-called “Sunni leaders” are deeply unpopular, showing that the split is not sectarian but is about something else.

As for the Arab media, well it depends whether its owned by the Saudi royal family or not, if so then they just parrot the American media (or perhaps the American media parrots the Saudi royal family media, it’s difficult to work out which way it goes)
So the voice of the sane guy isn’t influential in the Muslim world?

Good to know.
I don’t consider the Saudis very ‘sane’.
 
I don’t consider the Saudis very ‘sane’.
I never has a problem with them or the Egyptians but they were mainly military I did meet a lot of Saudi civilians when I was in the Kingdom and they were good people but you know more about this stuff than I do.
 
I never has a problem with them or the Egyptians but they were mainly military I did meet a lot of Saudi civilians when I was in the Kingdom and they were good people but you know more about this stuff than I do.
Sorry I wasn’t clear, I was only referring to the Saudi royal family. The normal people of Saudi Arabia are some of the nicest folks you’ll ever meet.
 
Sorry I wasn’t clear, I was only referring to the Saudi royal family. The normal people of Saudi Arabia are some of the nicest folks you’ll ever meet.
They’re Arabs. In some ways they’re fantastic people, other things about them made me want to wring their necks. They have no concept of personal accountability. To them, holding someone personally accountable for screwing up was extremely poor taste. They’d always speak in generalities that buried responsibilities. The result of this was that nothing got done.

In other ways, I loved them. They’d be instant best friends with you if you knew how to act towards them. The Iraqi Police in particular, loved us. Often they weren’t secure in going out on sector, because they had no armored vehicles. When we went out and brought in criminals off the street, enforcing the law, they treated us like rockstars. The respect they had for us was palpable.
 
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