Save the Turtles

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"…This is an issue that so incenses me that when the court ruling came down, I made a conscious decision not to address it. Yesterday, however, I received a letter in the mail from our local “Code Nazi” and decided I would address the issue after all. The code I violated was parking my car in the gravel beside my garage. It seems that I have been parking it there too long and it must be removed in three days or I will be slapped with a hefty fine. If I refuse to pay the fine, I will be arrested.

The biggest beef I have with the Supreme Court decision isn’t that the judges’ ruling but the fact that the people would allow such an issue to go that far. It isn’t the courts that have taken property rights from the people; it is the people who have given them to the courts.

In all the recent clamor about property rights I haven’t heard one person say anything about the most obvious part of this ruling. It didn’t begin with the Supreme Court. It began in small towns all across America. It began with the man who bought the house next door to yours decided your inadequate lawn service or the junky car in your driveway was driving down his property value.

It began when people, who already owned their houses and were already settled in their community, decided to keep other people from building and moving there. It began when residents of a community decided that a particular piece of property was historical so the owner of the property shouldn’t be allowed to build on it. It began with a selfish and blatant disregard for the property rights of others to advance our own personal interests. Now property owners are little more than glorified renters bowing to the whim of the all powerful government land baron.

On June 27th the Supreme Court made the news in another case when they rejected appeals from two reporters who were hoping to avoid jail time for not divulging their source in a story that involved a federal investigation. The media had hoped to overturn a previous court ruling that determined jailing a reporter for not revealing their source did not violate their first amendment right.

Rush Limbaugh commented on the case on his radio show Thursday. “The First Amendment hasn’t meant a whole lot lately,” said Limbaugh. “Campaign finance reform came along and limited the free speech of citizens and the media was all for that.”

He then made the point that when we start to tip toe on a persons rights we open the door to stomp all over them. I totally agree. That is why it came as such a shock to me when Rush took the opposite stand on property rights.

Back in April Rush briefed his audience on the city lighting ordinance imposed on his Florida property. In an effort to “save the turtles” the city passed a law that required beachfront homeowners to turn off their lights during certain hours. The problem Rush had with the situation wasn’t that he was being ordered by law to turn off his lights but the time of day the city had designated.

While I agree that we should do all we can as stewards of this earth to preserve nature, I am adamantly opposed to being forced to “save the turtles”, “save the whales”, “save the sidewalk” or anything else the government thinks I should save. A female caller on Rush’s show made the point that the residents should be able to choose to save the turtles instead of being coerced. Rush basically told the caller you can’t fight city hall. And that is my problem…

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I am an animal lover but these people are NUTS:mad: If they did half as much for humans we would be in good shape:mad:
 
This ruling was a surprise because the Supreme Court had stayed away from zoning law. Only in extreme, limited instances would it become involved. Then, in Kelso, it swoops down and changes zoning laws for the entire nation

Don’t even get near a turtle nest in Palm Beach County. Hi-rise Condo Critters with binoculars scan the beach 24/7. Which is good because they (the turtles, not the Condo Critters) are a great attraction.

A change from when the USS Oliver Cromwell operated off the coast of Florida during the American revolution. Carpenter mate Timothy Boardman’s log relates one “Great Turtle” fed 13 men–consolation for failing to capture a Jamaica Puncheon they suspected was loaded with rum.
 
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A change from when the USS Oliver Cromwell operated off the coast of Florida during the American revolution. Carpenter mate Timothy Boardman’s log relates one “Great Turtle” fed 13 men–consolation for failing to capture a Jamaica Puncheon they suspected was loaded with rum.
FOFL - I suspect being sailors of their day they would have preferred the rum but then turtle soup is good.
 
Never had it. Sure like to. Loggerhead turtle nests are real close by too. What is it like?

Hear manatee is delicious. Some South American sites on te net with recipes. In the winter here our nuke power plant is a big tourist attraction. Manatees love the warm discharge water.
 
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FOFL - I suspect being sailors of their day they would have preferred the rum but then turtle soup is good.
Sailors of this day would prefer the rum over the soup.🙂
 
What a life, huh? Cruising off Abacoa in a 40 gun ship of the line, capturing British cargo, eating turtle soup and drinking rum.

Lots of people today would pay to do that.
 
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Never had it. Sure like to. Loggerhead turtle nests are real close by too. What is it like?
Made with a chicken broth base tastes like a cross between a green soup like celery or asparagus and light chicken) There is also a mock turtle soup which is served in restaurants and is also excellent. I’ve never had a recipe for it. Not being a seafood lover I was surprised at how good it was.
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Hear manatee is delicious. Some South American sites on te net with recipes. In the winter here our nuke power plant is a big tourist attraction. Manatees love the warm discharge water.
Oh who couldn’t love a manatee – they’re so funny.
 
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Don’t even get near a turtle nest in Palm Beach County. Hi-rise Condo Critters with binoculars scan the beach 24/7.
Darn straight! I watch the beach as well for what?..oh yeah…poachers. People who illegally disturb these nests. Say whatever you want, but when you’ve watched one of these beautiful creatures work so darn hard to assure that at least some of her offspring survive…you’d be watching over them too if you had anything close to a heart. Sorry, but I love the turtles here a lot more than the dirty, sneaky, scumbag poachers who try and steal the eggs for sale on the blackmarket.
 
tcay584…don’t the lady turtles look so sad? They lumber up on the beach, dig an enormous hole, then strain to lay their eggs before lumbering back. Looks like a huge effocrt.

We’re lucky with all the development they still nest here.

What is the deal with the eggs? Who buys them? For what? Remember a guy getting caught last year down by Boca Raton raiding a nest.
 
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tcay584…don’t the lady turtles look so sad? They lumber up on the beach, dig an enormous hole, then strain to lay their eggs before lumbering back. Looks like a huge effocrt.

We’re lucky with all the development they still nest here.

What is the deal with the eggs? Who buys them? For what? Remember a guy getting caught last year down by Boca Raton raiding a nest.
I do agree that the females look kind of sad. I know they have tiny brains, but I can’t help but think that they know how small the odds for survival of their young are (How’s that for anthropomorphism for you 🙂 ). There’s actually quite a market for the eggs…something about being an aprodisiac. The penalties are so high though, I’m surprised people still try it. However, the poachers are poor enough that I guess it’s worth the try for them. I hope we don’t lose the nesting sites because it really is incredible. Then again, they’ve been doing this for an awfully long time.
 
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