Saying Goodbye To The Forums and Catholicism

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I am sorry to hear this; I hope you reconsider. Please know that you are always welcome back!
lonegreywolf20 said:
I am still looking for a church to belong to. It will be a liturgical church as that is the type of worship I prefer. I have attended the Lutheran church, but it is still too conservative for me. My girlfriend is Episcopalian and that is probably where I will go and lay down roots. I have been to many of their services and enjoy them. They are closer in line to what I believe and there are fewer disagreements to be had.
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One thing to consider with any church, particularly the Episcopalian if that is what you are looking at, is how it began. The Episcopalian is part of the Anglican Church, which started as a break-off from the Catholic Church because the pope would not grant English king Henry VIII the annulment of his marriage that he sought; so Henry broke ties with Rome, declared himself head of the church in England, and the Church of England was formed. Even if one enjoys their liturgies and such, I could never see how one could logically justify the existence of the Anglican Church.

I know when I was searching for the right church/denomination a number of years back, before I became Catholic, I remember thinking “I like the worship here, but they are too liberal/conservative with this issue,” or “I agree with their teachings on the Lord’s Supper, but not sure if I agree with them on the issue of infant baptism,” etc. etc. And then at some point it occurred to me, “Why am I looking for a church that fits with what I like or want? Something is wrong with this picture.” So I just focused on searching for the truth rather than what I liked or was comfortable with at that point. Eventually it led me to the Catholic Church. I am just sharing my own experience in hope that it might be somewhat relatable to your own; I know you said have already been reading and thinking about these things. Continue to seek Jesus, who is the Truth, and look for what Church He founded. 🙂
 
It’s always sad as a convert to see people leaving. Something I’ve been wanting for two years now is just being thrown away like a disposable cup after it no longer aligns with one’s personal beliefs. Why are you trying to find a progressive Church?
 
Your choice and all choices have consequences. You give up the pearl of great price because you see your reasoning as what is right and true. Humility accepts the truth, the cross and the way of life Jesus gave us. And he gave the keys to St. Peter and gave you the gift, again gift of Baptism into the Catholic Church. If you like liturgy at least go where there are authentic sacraments. Catholic eastern church or if you must Orthodox Eastern church (which is not in union with Rome). No one knows if we will see each other in heaven, that’s up to God and the choices we make daily. We seek his mercy and never assume we are in a state of grace, but hope and pray we are in a state of grace.
 
Looking for a church/religion that agrees with you???
Consensus is a nice ‘religion’ but you would be better off seeking Truth rather than comfort.
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
Not sure what else I can say beyond, see you in Heaven some day!
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God loves you immensely—there will never be any doubt of that. Wherever you land in your faith-walk and wherever you go, God will be there waiting for you to connect to Him. Like others here, I would rather you stay connected to an historic church. But, ultimately, if you are convinced that an apostolic church is not fostering your own holiness, then, well, you’ve got to go to a community that you feel helps you increase in holiness and connection to God.

Fare well and take comfort in the belief that “God is love” and “called you first” (before you sought Him). Peace be with you!

🎶 “The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet,
And wither then? I cannot say. 🎶 -LOTR
 
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Well he said he considered the Lutheran church but even that was too conservative for him. I’m going to assume one of his main disagreements with the Catholic church is LGBT stuff and he wants to join a church that says it’s okay, but that is, as I say, simply my assumption.
 
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, mate. We can’t force you to stay, but it’s ultimately your loss to be outside of Jesus’ Church and ergo lose salvation. I hope you change your mind and come home to Rome.
 
I’m so glad I was not the one that had to say that directly to the poster, but it’s right, this is a Church teaching
 
lonegreywolf20 said:
My mom has regretted baptizing me Catholic as an infant because she realizes now that she took an important choice in my life away from me and sees me trying to be a good Catholic, but not being able to because those disagreements.
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I hope you actually realise that once you are baptised a Catholic you remain a Catholic forever even if you walk away from the Church. There is only one baptism. Any re-baptism elsewhere would simply be a sham.
There are no former/ex Catholics.
There are only two types of Catholic - those in a state of grace and those in a state of mortal sin.
You may return anytime you want to the Church and be welcomed.
 
My friend,

I am a teenager and I know what it is like to have doubts and to feel disappointed by how some in the Church have acted. But as one poster aptly put it in an old thread, why would I leave Jesus because of Judas? I have awful doubts about everything in the book: God, Christianity, Catholicism. You name it. But I profess belief in the Church because I know that Truth is God and that my doubts are Satan’s attempt to pull me into hell.

I have probably 75+ years left on this Earth and in my life priests will fail me. Bishops will fail me. Indeed, the bishop in my neighboring diocese has just resigned because a woman has complained that he had a relationship with her while a parish priest. But the Church is NOT (!!!) a museum of saints IT IS A HOSPITAL FOR SINNERS. I haven’t posted in exactly four weeks (taking a break while studying for exams) but this seems so important.

I don’t know what doctrines you take issue with but let me say this: We have a wonderful Holy Father, our bishops and priests are true men of God, and if you read the scriptures and the Catechism and the apologetic pages on catholic.com then you will hopefully understand this. Here in New Zealand the 2nd largest Christian tradition is Anglicanism and I know from experience that although most Anglicans are wonderful people (I knew a female priest, now bishop of the Anglican Church and she was one of the loveliest people I have known) and although it is liturgically similar they have null and void holy orders, and their female clergy issue has divided them terribly. Some people think our Church is divided. On matters of discipline, perhaps it is (think clerical celibacy in the Amazon, etc). But an Episcopalian who is pro-life and pro marriage between one man and one woman could look to the man next to him who pro choice and pro homosexual marriage. This is not a community you should join.

Please reconsider. I beg of you to please reconsider. This is the Church of Christ. How could you leave this:

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Please, please stay. God wants you too. I know you don’t believe but if you read about the faith then you will understand.

I hope you make an informed decision based on the truth.

God Bless You, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

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catholic03 said:
99.9% of our bishops and priests are true men of God
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Good post, but the number is lower. According to Bishop Barron 4% of clergy are predators. And it’s 1.5% according to Fr Ripperger. The majority I’d say are holy men but we have to be honest here.
 
FrancisFan43 said:
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus, mate. We can’t force you to stay, but it’s ultimately your loss to be outside of Jesus’ Church and ergo lose salvation. I hope you change your mind and come home to Rome.
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I second this. Ultimately, although the Holy Spirit does guide people to Christ using ecclesial communities, all salvation comes through the Catholic Church.
 
That reminds me of people who convert to Anglicanism from the Catholic Church. People often say that Anglicanism is like ‘Catholicism lite’. I.e., it has the same ritual but doesn’t demand as much devotion or work as does being a good Catholic.
 
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