School vouchers win-win?

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Places where vouchers systems have been put into effect demonstrate otherwise.

– Mark L. Chance.
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I’d be interested in reading the reviews…any links?
 
Most of the soon to close catholic schools ARE in inner city areas, not wealthy suburbs. Are you saying only elite wealthy people are active parish members? I sure hope you’re not saying that! My system would allow a dirt poor family that volunteered to teach CCD and threw and evelope with a quarter in it each week to be FIRST on the priority list. So how do you conclude that only the ‘elite’ get in?

That makes no sense to me. What I SAID is that it would be very simple to ensure that catholic schools continued to meet their original mission of serving the parish FIRST.

It’s TRUE that my proposal probably would not allow the poorest to afford a private school. It can’t BOTH do that AND ensure that the public school system gets enough funding to deal with the higher concentration of kids with special needs. But a parish school that suddenly went from bankruptcy to full enrollment would surely be able to offer financial aid to a few kids in each class.

Surely ‘perfect’ need not be the enemy of improvement?
 
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That makes no sense to me. What I SAID is that it would be very simple to ensure that catholic schools continued to meet their original mission of serving the parish FIRST.
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Ok, so going even with that…serving the parish first…
I take it to mean Catholics within the parish first, then non-Catholics?

So, let’s say a parish school can accommodate 1000 students.
Enrollment is already low because so many Catholics in the parish community cannot afford to send their children there, or they do not have the time to teach CCD or fulfill whatever stewardship role would meet the tuition requirement…and say, there are 500 students at the school now.

Tuition waivers become a reality.
Now all those Catholics who couldn’t afford to before, apply to have their kids admitted on voucher.
So do, let’s say, 1/3 of the public school students in parish boundaries.

The school still only has room for 500.
So let’s say they admit all the Catholic applicants first, per your suggestion, and they have 50 seats left (if any).

The majority of the non-Catholic applicants will not benefit from the choice they were told they would have.

This will be the same for French Academies, Math Academies, Art Academies, and whatever other ‘private’ educational institution is out there. There are XX number of seats available.

Since admissions is **not **based on first come, first serve, there will be a priority admissions standard which will exclude those who would have most benefited from the higher quality education offered from that institution.

I’m just saying the voucher system really doesn’t make choice a reality.
 
We dont need a separation of Chruch and State where schools are concerned. We need a separation of govt and schools. Thats right -NO Govt supported schools. Everyone gets vouchers to send their kids to the school of their choice. I know this is a radical idea but once we get govt out of the school buisnees we eliminate govt meddilng with schools to push the latest social “tolerance” fad.

You want your kid to be taught how to use a condom and be taught that homosexual behavior is just fine-great-use your voucher to send your kid to a school that teaches that. you want your kid to have a catholic education-fine-use your voucher to accomplish it.

What would soon becone apparent was that schools who strive to educate instead of indoctrinate would turn out far superior students than the current crop of public schools do. And that is what scares the NEA `and the Left to death-in a free market they always lose.
 
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Ok, so going even with that…serving the parish first…
IThe majority of the non-Catholic applicants will not benefit from the choice they were told they would have.

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You are assuming that no new schools will start up as a result of the vouchers being made available. History shows this is not the caase. In areas where charter schools and or vouchers have been allowed a large variety of Schols have started up.

Currently the oppostion to vouchers seems to be that since not all kids will benefit we need to continue to force a substandard education on ALL children
 
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estesbob:
You are assuming that no new schools will start up as a result of the vouchers being made available. History shows this is not the caase. In areas where charter schools and or vouchers have been allowed a large variety of Schols have started up.

Currently the oppostion to vouchers seems to be that since not all kids will benefit we need to continue to force a substandard education on ALL children
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You note ‘history shows’ and ‘where charter schools and or voucher have been allowed’…

please provide your data to support this. Where did this take place, when, what were the circumstances?
 
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