Scientists on Religion

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Michael Hulme Climatologist

“I believe because I have not discovered a better explanation of beauty, truth and love than that they emerge in a world created - willed into being - by a God who personifies beauty, truth and love.”
 
**Denis Alexander **Molecular Biologist

“Science provides us with a wonderful narrative as to how [existence] may happen, but theology addresses the meaning of the narrative.”
 
Fred Brooks Computer Scientist

“Einstein repeatedly argued that there must be simplified explanations of nature, because God is not capricious or arbitrary. No such faith comforts the software engineer. Much of the complexity he must master is arbitrary complexity …] because they were designed by different people, rather than by God.”
 
Charles Coulson Mathematician

“Either God is in the whole of Nature, with no gaps, or He’s not there at all.”
 
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Peter Agre Physician, Molecular Biologist Nobel Prize

“Natural selection is not an inflammatory phrase; evolution is.”
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I already addressed you on post #69 found on page #5 of this topic. Now I will address you to the above post which I would need a link (url) from you regarding “that” quote you presented.

I will provide you what Peter Agre has stated:

AAAS Joins Leading Texas Scientists and Educators in Urging State Board to Reject Anti-Evolution Amendments
24 March 2009

Leading members of the Texas scientific community, in collaboration with AAAS, have urged the Texas State Board of Education to reject amendments to the state’s draft science standards that would undermine sound science teaching. And in a commentary published in the San Antonio Express-News online edition, AAAS officials warned that approval of the anti-science amendments could undermine Texas’s reputation as a world engine of scientific discovery and innovation.

The board is to take a final vote on the standards on Friday 27 March.

Peter Agre states:
*In a 23 March letter to Chairman Don McLeroy and the other members of the Texas board, the scientists said certain amendments, introduced and approved during the January 2009 board meeting, “would mislead students should they make it into the final standards.” Among the concerns, the scientists say, is an amendment to the biology standards that attacks one of evolution’s key principles: that all living organisms on Earth are descended from a common ancestor.

The amendment says students should “analyze and evaluate the sufficiency and insufficiency of common ancestry.” But scientists say there is no real argument about common ancestry, one of the foundational concepts of evolution.

“The scientific consensus is that evolution is the backbone of modern biology and many other fields of science, underlying advances in areas such as agriculture and medicine,” the scientists write. They note that the board “did the students of Texas a great service” when it earlier rejected insertion of language in the science standards that spoke of the “weaknesses” of evolution.*

aaas.org/news/aaas-joins-leading-texas-scientists-and-educators-urging-state-board-reject-anti-evolution

Charlemagne III, in the future give me a link (url) for each quote you use or otherwise I will get a moderator to intervene.
 
Benjamin Silliman Father of American Science

“I have also declared my belief that while natural religion stands as the basis of Revelation, consisting as it does of the facts and laws which form the domain of science, science has never revealed a system of mercy commensurate with the moral wants of man.”

“In Nature, in God’s creation, we discover only laws—laws of undeviating strictness, and sure penalties annexed for their violation. There is associated with natural laws no system of mercy; that dispensation is not revealed in Nature, and is contained in the Scriptures alone.”
 
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Charlemagne III, in the future give me a link (url) for each quote you use or otherwise I will get a moderator to intervene.
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Your request is presumptuous. Should the moderator intervene and demand what you demand, there will be no more quotes and I will demand that the thread be closed and eliminated from public viewing … a pathetic development considering you should be a fellow Christian interested in what scientists have said about religion. 🤷

Check your private messages.
 
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Your request is presumptuous. Should the moderator intervene and demand what you demand, there will be no more quotes and I will demand that the thread be closed and eliminated from public viewing … a pathetic development considering you should be a fellow Christian interested in what scientists have said about religion. 🤷
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I second the request by LogisticsBranch. If you choose to quote from others, then you must show that those words were actually uttered by those people, and not just invented by someone else. No second hand “quotes”, please. Moreover, it would allow us to see the proper context.

That is the bare minimum if you wish to establish a minimum of credibility. After all most of those “names” and just empty “names” without any context. I suspect that you found some website, and copy + paste from there.

So, first hand, actual quotations, with the proper URL, please.
 
Solmyr said:
So, first hand, actual quotations, with the proper URL, please.

Request denied. Do your own homework. 🤷

These **are **actual quotes, not indirect quotes.

You are welcome to challenge my honesty, but you are not welcome to raid my research files. They represent years of reading and hard work. I don’t offer them to someone else to take credit for all the research done.

Believe me, I will not hold it against you if you don’t believe these quotes are honest, but I will hold it against you to demand the sources that you are able to find on your own if you but make the effort to find them.

I won’t be responding to any more posts along this line. You have the last word.

Use it wisely. 😉
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**Rosalind Picard **MIT Media Lab

“The fact that we can make sense of the world using mathematics is astounding – could a chaotic uncontrolled process have produced that? It also looks as it the universe was set up so that life could evolve, and people call this fine-tuning or the anthropic principle.”
 
Charlemagne_III said:
These **are **actual quotes, not indirect quotes.

You are welcome to challenge my honesty, but you are not welcome to raid my research files. They represent years of reading and hard work. I don’t offer them to someone else to take credit for all the research done.
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As usual, we have a bunch of unsubstantiated assertions - and the reluctance of bringing up the evidence to support them. What a surprise. 🙂
 
Blaise Pascal Mathematician, Inventor

“Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us consider the two possibilities. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Hesitate not, then, to wager that He is.”
 
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E.T. Whittaker Mathematician, Astronomer

“There is no ground for supposing that matter and energy existed before [the Big Bang] and were suddenly galvanized into action. For what could distinguish that moment from all other moments in eternity? It is simpler to postulate creation ex nihilo-Divine will constituting Nature from nothingness.”
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Sounds like a Deist 🙂

John
 
**James Dwight Dana **Geologist

“The grand old Book of God still stands; and this old earth, the more its leaves are turned over and pondered, the more it will sustain and illustrate the Sacred word.”
 
Isaac Newton Physicist

“Whence is it that the eyes of all sorts of living creatures are transparent to the very bottom & the only transparent members in the body, having on the outside an hard transparent skin, & within transparent juyces with a crystalline Lens in the middle & a pupil before the Lens all of them so truly shaped & fitted for vision, that no Artist can mend them? Did blind chance know that there was light & what was its refraction & fit the eys of all creatures after the most curious manner to make use of it? These & such like considerations always have & ever will prevail with man kind to believe that there is a being who made all things & has all things in his power & who is therfore to be feared.”
 
Justin L. Barrett Psychologist

“Developmental psychologists have provided evidence that children are naturally tuned to believe in gods of one sort or another.”
 
**J. Robert Oppenheimer ** Nuclear Physicist

“In some sort of crude sense, which no vulgarity, no humor, no overstatement can quite extinguish, the physicists have known sin; and this is a knowledge which they cannot lose.”
 
Ian Barbour Physicist

“The media like a good fight. They pick out the extremes and they leave out all the people in the middle who believe in both God and evolution.”
 
Walter Thirring Physicist

“In the last decades, new worlds have been unveiled that our great teachers wouldn’t have even dreamed of. The panorama of cosmic evolution now enables deep insights into the blueprint of creation…. Human beings recognize the blueprints, and understand the language of the Creator…. These realizations do not make science the enemy of religion, but glorify the book of Genesis in the Bible.”
 
David Brewster Physicist

“Science ever has been, and ever must be the safeguard of religion. The grandeur of her truths may transcend our failing reason, but those who cherish and lean upon truths equally grand, but certainly more incomprehensible, ought to see in the marvels of the material world the best defense and illustration of the mysteries of their faith.”
 
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