Scottish Cardinal Suggests Priests Should Marry

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Hasire said:
Getting well rounded in society in not inherently a bad thing. (I.e. Vatican II, according to Pope John XXIII)
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I never said it was a bad thing; however, I keep going back to the fact that Christ, the High Priest, was not married. Besides, Vatican II didn’t even change disciplines, let alone doctrine. So …not apples to apples.
 
brierpatch1974 said:
I think what disturbs me the most is so many people wanting to make this an economic issue and not an issue of faith or doctrine. Keep greed and the love of money out of it.
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Can’t see that faith and doctrine have much to do with it. No one is advocating any change in faith or doctrine. This is a matter of a discipline.
Consideration of the economic aspect is simply one aspect of the matter and as such should be properly considered as such.
CarolNoel said:
I thought our late Blessed John Paul closed that book! I hope they don’t let priests get married.
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JP II said that the celibate priesthood was a blessing to the Church and he saw no reason to change it. However since we are talking about discipline and not doctrine there is no reason why a future pope could not change it.
As has already been mentioned, we had married priests before, we have married priests now. So if the Church in her wisdom decided that, for the good of the Church, the Latin Rite will allow more married priests so be it.

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Do celibate catholic priests make better priests than the married Anglican priests who converted to Catholicism?
 
porthos11 said:
I don’t know if the article just got it wrong as the media usually does, but no one, especially a bishop has any business calling for priests to be allowed to get married. It’s a completely different thing from allowing married men to be ordained priests.
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I think he was merely chiming in on an issue that many Catholics have strong opinions about. He doesn’t have the authority to act on it.
 
brierpatch1974 said:
I think what disturbs me the most is so many people wanting to make this an economic issue and not an issue of faith or doctrine. Keep greed and the love of money out of it.
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It is an issue of discipline. The testimony for the first thousand years was a married clergy. No doubt, it was spiritualized as a means of making the argument for a change to celibacy.
 
Lucky7 said:
I never said it was a bad thing; however, I keep going back to the fact that Christ, the High Priest, was not married. Besides, Vatican II didn’t even change disciplines, let alone doctrine. So …not apples to apples.
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I think I see Hashire’s point
Vatican II, John XXIII seemed to be about reaching out into society.

There was only one Christ, the high Priest.
 
RevDon said:
I think I see Hashire’s point
Vatican II, John XXIII seemed to be about reaching out into society.

There was only one Christ, the high Priest.
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Yes, but in the Catholic Church priests are alter christus. Not being married is another way to be “like another Christ”.
 
mburn16 said:
Maybe, or maybe not. What is being missed here, I think, is that so many women are now learned and skilled and working outside of the home, that even without increased income from the Priest, its likely most families would do just fine.

You say most Priests you talk to are happy being single and married outside the church…and I’m sure most current priests are. But how many people - deeply religious and faithful men - choose NOT to pursue ministry, because it would mean giving up the opportunity to have a family? Though perhaps not entirely, permitting married Priests would probably make a huge dent in the vocational problems in the Western Church.

I’m all for it.
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Good point. It isn’t that it would be required, just an option to consider. Would it take the form that you had to be married PRIOR to vows? Or could a Priest be married after vows? :confused:
 
Of course, the person would have to be married before ordination. A priest marrying would be so wrong.
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Theologically speaking, I once read that once you go Ordained you can’t get married because one must get ordained in that point of their lives that they are mature enough to know what they want. Marrying after ordination would contradict that.
Well, another reason is that it would break very ancient canons. Priests getting married has never been the norm.
Yes, but*** in the Catholic Church ***priests are alter christus. Not being married is another way to be “like another Christ”.
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**1. All priests in the Catholic Church are “Alter Christus”.
2. Not being married is to be “Alter Christus”.
3. Melkite/Recieved Anglican priests are married.
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Therefore, they are not “Alter Christus”.
Therefore, they are not priests of the Catholic Church.
Therefore, they are not Catholic.

Tell the Melkites that.
 
Priestly celibacy is right and fitting because Jesus was celibate, therefore it is a way for the leaders of the Church to emulate him. This is most appropriate given the fact that consecrating and administering the Eucharist, which is the Body and Blood of Christ, is the priests’ most sacred responsibility.
The demands of shepherding a congregation and tending to their spiritual needs would be too much to balance with the demands of a family. A priest’s purpose is to be 'like Christ" and Jesus Christ was not married therefore priests do not marry. Their lives are fulfilled by leading their community spiritually, the vocation is fulfilled only if these requirements are met - those who try and change this wish to undo the foundation of our Belief
 
Hasire said:
Theologically speaking, I once read that once you go Ordained you can’t get married because one must get ordained in that point of their lives that they are mature enough to know what they want. Marrying after ordination would contradict that.
Well, another reason is that it would break very ancient canons. Priests getting married has never been the norm.

**1. All priests in the Catholic Church are “Alter Christus”.
2. Not being married is to be “Alter Christus”.
3. Melkite/Recieved Anglican priests are married.
**
Therefore, they are not “Alter Christus”.
Therefore, they are not priests of the Catholic Church.
Therefore, they are not Catholic.

Tell the Melkites that.
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I think you’ll find this link very interesting
futurechurch.org/fpm/history.htm
 
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