Secretary Didn't Burn John Paul's Notes

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jjwilkman:
this is insane!

a last will is just that.

i would be exceedingly unhappy if my last wishes weren’t followed.

what? is this person going to disobey the last wishes of a saint?

i wouldn’t care to walk in his shoes.

i am not too far away from my end. i expect my last wishes to be carried out.
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I agree with you:(
 
With all the treasures that Pope John Paul the Great left us, how can burning those notes impact the world? It makes no sense…he trusted his secetary to do this.
 
If the Pope wanted them burned, then burn them. There is likely items there that were given to him in confidence. If that somehow hurts his canonization process, then that’s what happens. JPII knew the process of canonization and how it works, and he still chose for his papers to be burned. Failure to do so is disobedience and wrong.

I’m particularily annoyed that his secretary who was allowed to do this was then rewarded and promoted. Yes, he may be deserving of this (I don’t know him and can’t offer an opinion on that). But if he’s going to disobey the previous Pope’s wishes, how can he be trusted to follow other rules?
 
You forget that canonical investigation for beatification requires preservation and submission of all documents. This documents cannot be destroyed. It would be a contempt of court! I’m sure that John Paul II would understand and that he’s happy that Mgr Dziwisz is now archbishop of Krakow.
 
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Taliesin52:
But if he’s going to disobey the previous Pope’s wishes, how can he be trusted to follow other rules?
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How are you to judge him? You know him personally?
 
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Taliesin52:
If the Pope wanted them burned, then burn them. There is likely items there that were given to him in confidence. If that somehow hurts his canonization process, then that’s what happens. JPII knew the process of canonization and how it works, and he still chose for his papers to be burned. Failure to do so is disobedience and wrong.

I’m particularily annoyed that his secretary who was allowed to do this was then rewarded and promoted. Yes, he may be deserving of this (I don’t know him and can’t offer an opinion on that). But if he’s going to disobey the previous Pope’s wishes, how can he be trusted to follow other rules?
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This is exactly what I say. He knew and still wanted them burned - he obviously had his reasons and they should not be questioned. Being the humble servant of God that he was, I would be willing to bet that he didn’t care about the canonization.

It’s just not right.
 
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Walburga:
Call me the rebel. JPII had plenty of time to have those papers burned. If he really wanted them burned, he would have had them burned before he died. It isn’t that hard. I’m with his secretary in wanting them saved.

Think of it. You have a diary or two that you don’t want around after you’re gone. So, if you are ill and you think you are going to go soon, you burn it. Simple.

Jackie O. burned a bunch of her stuff before she died. It’s not a hard thing to do. If it’s that important to someone then they can burn it before they go. Like I said, call me a rebel.
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I agree with you Walburga. I suppose I’m a rebel too :rolleyes:
 
In the latest interview with Archbishop Dziwisz I read, the Archbishop said that the Pope John Paul II gave him a free custody over his notes and that he could do anything he wanted with them. The Archbishop said that these notes belonged the the Church and the society.
 
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