Security in Baghdad deteriorating by the hour, unclear who's in charge

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“Security in Baghdad seems to be deteriorating by the hour, and it is increasingly unclear who is in control. Earlier today, the Iraqi Interior Ministry reported that American forces raided a secret prison and arrested several Iraqi policeman.”

“American officials have been more overt in the past week than ever in blaming Shiite militias, in particular Mr. Sadr’s Mahdi Army, for a wave of sectarian bloodshed that seems to have no end. This morning, authorities in Baghdad discovered the corpses of 10 more men, all bound, blindfolded and shot.”

“American and Iraqi government forces clashed with Shiite militiamen in Baghdad tonight in the most serious confrontation in months, and Iraqi officials said the fighting left at least 17 Iraqis dead, including an 80-year-old imam.”

nytimes.com/2006/03/27/international/middlee…

I’ve been looking for an absolutely gruesome story I read yesterday about a teacher beheaded in front of his class (in Iraq) because he was thought to be working with the CIA. Has anybody seen it?
 
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Thekla:
I’ve been looking for an absolutely gruesome story I read yesterday about a teacher beheaded in front of his class (in Iraq) because he was thought to be working with the CIA. Has anybody seen it?
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Is asking you to keep track of what you read and to do your own google searches too much?
 
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Thekla:
I’ve been looking for an absolutely gruesome story I read yesterday about a teacher beheaded in front of his class (in Iraq) because he was thought to be working with the CIA. Has anybody seen it?
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We are at war with almost pure evil. I wouldn’t be surprised it this were true.
 
Ani Ibi:
Is asking you to keep track of what you read and to do your own google searches too much?
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This seems to be a oft repeated tactic used by folks who don’t want to address the issue because it makes their side look bad - they shift the focus to sources. These are also usually the same posters who demmand link after link after link to stories that are easily found all over the internet - if they but would look.
 
Ani Ibi:
Is asking you to keep track of what you read and to do your own google searches too much?
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Thank you for such a polite response to my query.:rolleyes: You could have just said, “no” or nothing at all.
 
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koda:
This seems to be a oft repeated tactic used by folks who don’t want to address the issue because it makes their side look bad - they shift the focus to sources. These are also usually the same posters who demmand link after link after link to stories that are easily found all over the internet - if they but would look.
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Dear koda,
It’s really too bad that the people of Iraq have been forced into this diabolical situation with our government standing by. It remains unfathomable that we have people in this country who believe politicians rather than their own eyes, but that’s what it’s looking like to me.

I’ve looked for the beheaded teacher story and just thought that since there are so many people here who read so much news, that someone might have seen it. Obviously, I’ve searched and can’t find it.
Thekla
 
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Thekla:
I’ve looked for the beheaded teacher story and just thought that since there are so many people here who read so much news, that someone might have seen it. Obviously, I’ve searched and can’t find it.
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My search skills are working tonight, it seems.
Armed insurgents burst into teacher Khidhir al-Mihallawi’s classroom at Sajariyah High School on Wednesday, accused him of being an agent for the CIA and Israeli intelligence and beheaded the English instructor in front of his students, according to students, fellow teachers and a doctor at a local hospital.
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pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/newssummary/s_436977.html

It was in Ramadi.

Mike
 
Remember:
  1. Iraqis tend to exaggerate and tell stories.
  2. Ramadi was, and to some extent still is, the seat of Saddam’s power in Iraq
  3. Our enemy thinks they can terrorize us out of Iraq (because we went running with our tails between our legs too many times in the recent past)
Having said that, we are fighting what amounts to pure evil.
 
This seems to be a oft repeated tactic used by folks who don’t want to address the issue because it makes their side look bad - they shift the focus to sources. These are also usually the same posters who demmand link after link after link to stories that are easily found all over the internet - if they but would look.
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Well spoken,

John
 
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Thekla:
Dear koda,
It’s really too bad that the people of Iraq have been forced into this diabolical situation with our government standing by.
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From where I sit, the situation in Iraq now is about 100,000% less diabolical than it was when Saddam was running the show.
 
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koda:
This seems to be a oft repeated tactic used by folks who don’t want to address the issue because it makes their side look bad - they shift the focus to sources.
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Without realibilty then the report or article or story or poster has nothing of value to report or upon which to base an argument;)
These are also usually the same posters who demmand link after link after link to stories that are easily found all over the internet - if they but would look.
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Rule#1 of debating according to an old (very old by now) teacher of mine: Without credible sources the best argument in the world is wasted air. Have them ready and cocked to use;)
 
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Geldain:
From where I sit, the situation in Iraq now is about 100,000% less diabolical than it was when Saddam was running the show.
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From where you sit? That would be in relative safety of the United States, right?
 
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gilliam:
I think your a peach too 😛
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gilliam,

Yet another thing upon which we agree; Mike’s a peach. :yup: I’m keeping track and we are now up to two.

Thekla
 
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Thekla:
From where you sit?
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Yes ma’am. From right here in my nice chair my wife got me last year from Staples.
That would be in relative safety of the United States, right?
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Correct. I can be very well informed, thanks to the internet and diverse others who make use of it for communication I can be well informed if I chose to be.

This is why I remain very proud Saddam has been removed from power. I’m also grateful those who wish he had never been removed have brought themselves out into the light where their preferences have been made known for the world to see.

I do find it odd the US gets the blame for the actions of terrorists. Some even seem happy when the terrorists kill more innocents. I wonder why that is? How can anyone be angry or sad that a tyrant has been removed from power and yet seem almost gleeful when terrorists strike?

From where I sit, in the safty of the US, in my comfy chair, this is what is happening on the ground in Iraq and on the internet, and even in these very forums;)
 
I’d like to edit the one paragraph I just now noticed has an error in it, plz. Too late to do it the right way.

It should say:"Correct. I can be very well informed, thanks to the internet and diverse others who make use of it for communication. "
 
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