Seeking God's Direction

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Hello, everybody, this is my first post.

Up until last fall, I was very confidently Protestant, to the point of occasionally scoffing at Catholicism and its aspects which I saw as foolish. I was yet another Protestant who assumed the communion of saints was pretty much just praying to false idols.

My father is a Protestant minister who, for most of my life was ordained in the Foursquare church (a Pentecostal denomination). He is into the emerging church movement, and, as such, has a tendency towards high church, and his enthusiasm for religious symbols has worn off, you could say.

Raised Protestant, I believed that Catholics could be saved, but I thought Tradition was more of a hindrance (IOW, Catholics could get to heaven in spite of the communion of saints, Marian doctrines, etc).

A Catholic friend from another messageboard was giving away some books and gave me a copy of Why Do Catholics Do That?. I read it, and was blown away. While reading it (and Karl Keating’s Catholicism vs. Fundamentalism), I started realizing how great my misunderstanding of Catholicism has been. I told my father and father-in-law (also a pastor, more specifically, the pastor of my church) that, if God were to convince me that Catholicism is the most authentic form of Christianity, I would be positively obligated to convert. Neither of them was too enthusiastic about my statement.

Now, a few months later, after reading a few more books on Catholicism and listening to around 2/3 of the Luke E. Hart audio series (haven’t had time to finish), EWTN Radio, prayer, and, of course, studying the Scriptures (even the Protestant versions, which are all I have right now), I’m becoming more and more certain that God is leading me to Catholicism.

Last night, as I prepared to go to sleep, I prayed that God would give me clarity (as I have been doing for some time now about this subject). If He did not desire for me to join the Catholic church, I asked him to quell my interest in Catholicism, at least for a while. If He did desire me to convert, I asked Him to make my interest in Catholicism grow intensely, and above all, that it would be clear.

I listened to Mass on EWTN this morning, and it resonated so beautifully with me. I spent some time in prayer as I got ready for work, and, I decided to read some in Why… (as I’m re-reading it anyway). For the first time, Purgatory was no longer an obstacle to faith in my mind. Before, I had thought, “Well, I guess I can see how it could be…” But today, it made sense. I can’t really explain it, it just made sense.

By the end of my prayer time, I was crying tears of both joy and sorrow. Joy because I believe God has given me clarity on the subject. Sorrow because I’m sure it will cause a lot of tension in my marriage, family, and friend relationships.

Also, I am officially the youth pastor in my church, and I know that this change would be a huge shift in that area, as well.

My wife has said that, if I converted, she would “go with” me, but I told her I won’t force her to do anything, or force her to change her beliefs. Anyway, she is supportive, though not completely in agreement. I haven’t discussed this with her, as we haven’t had time to talk about it today.

I don’t know which question I should ask first (or where this thread should be, for that matter), or at all.

What do I do now?
What about that calling I have believed God had for me? Was I completely wrong about it, did I make a grave error in getting married, or is it just different from what I thought about it?
Was I being presumptive? I was trying to lay a fleece before God, as Gideon did, but did I test God inappropriately?
 
You are human, and full of god’s goodness. You are his image.
Don’t be so hard on yourself, jesus knows what you are experiencing. Relax and pray.
Just a thought- google “centering prayer and father thomas keating”
psalm 46 and mathew 6 is the key to another door of peace!
 
Any advice is appreciated.
Welcome, brother. Thanks for your moving and honest message.

I think the next step for you is to speak to a priest. You are right, if your conscience is telling you that the Church is the “one true fold of the Redeemer” (John Henry Cardinal Newman), founded by Christ, you must follow that path. But take it slow. God is a gentleman, He won’t rush you. Speak with a priest and take things from there.

Praying for you, that God will send the right priest along…

***Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of Your faithful, and enkindle in them the fire of Your love.

Send forth Your Spirit, and they shall be created,

And You shall renew the face of the earth.

Let us pray.

O God, Who by the light of the Holy Spirit, did instruct the hearts of Your faithful, grant that by that same Holy Spirit, we may be truly wise and ever rejoice in His consolation, through Christ our Lord. Amen.*** :gopray2:
 
What do I do now?
Hmm. Why not attend Catholic Mass with your wife on Sunday and see how it strikes you. You don’t partake in Holy Communion but you can obviously attend Mass. Talk to the priest after or before. What have you got to lose? Life is short. Try it out, and pray for the guidance of our Savior Jesus Christ. He will be with you throughout. He is in the Tabernacle. Obviously you are enthusiastic 😃 You posted on CAF.

GO, BRO

God Bless!

Andrew 🙂
 
Speak to a priest about the RCIA program, they teach you what the Catholic Church believes and why and answers your questions in order to help you decide if God is calling you in this direction. God bless you in whatever path God has for you!
 
Hello, everybody, this is my first post.

Up until last fall, I was very confidently Protestant, to the point of occasionally scoffing at Catholicism and its aspects which I saw as foolish. I was yet another Protestant who assumed the communion of saints was pretty much just praying to false idols.

My father is a Protestant minister who, for most of my life was ordained in the Foursquare church (a Pentecostal denomination). He is into the emerging church movement, and, as such, has a tendency towards high church, and his enthusiasm for religious symbols has worn off, you could say.

Raised Protestant, I believed that Catholics could be saved, but I thought Tradition was more of a hindrance (IOW, Catholics could get to heaven in spite of the communion of saints, Marian doctrines, etc).

A Catholic friend from another messageboard was giving away some books and gave me a copy of Why Do Catholics Do That?. I read it, and was blown away. While reading it (and Karl Keating’s Catholicism vs. Fundamentalism), I started realizing how great my misunderstanding of Catholicism has been. I told my father and father-in-law (also a pastor, more specifically, the pastor of my church) that, if God were to convince me that Catholicism is the most authentic form of Christianity, I would be positively obligated to convert. Neither of them was too enthusiastic about my statement.

Now, a few months later, after reading a few more books on Catholicism and listening to around 2/3 of the Luke E. Hart audio series (haven’t had time to finish), EWTN Radio, prayer, and, of course, studying the Scriptures (even the Protestant versions, which are all I have right now), I’m becoming more and more certain that God is leading me to Catholicism.

Last night, as I prepared to go to sleep, I prayed that God would give me clarity (as I have been doing for some time now about this subject). If He did not desire for me to join the Catholic church, I asked him to quell my interest in Catholicism, at least for a while. If He did desire me to convert, I asked Him to make my interest in Catholicism grow intensely, and above all, that it would be clear.

I listened to Mass on EWTN this morning, and it resonated so beautifully with me. I spent some time in prayer as I got ready for work, and, I decided to read some in Why… (as I’m re-reading it anyway). For the first time, Purgatory was no longer an obstacle to faith in my mind. Before, I had thought, “Well, I guess I can see how it could be…” But today, it made sense. I can’t really explain it, it just made sense.

By the end of my prayer time, I was crying tears of both joy and sorrow. Joy because I believe God has given me clarity on the subject. Sorrow because I’m sure it will cause a lot of tension in my marriage, family, and friend relationships.

Also, I am officially the youth pastor in my church, and I know that this change would be a huge shift in that area, as well.

My wife has said that, if I converted, she would “go with” me, but I told her I won’t force her to do anything, or force her to change her beliefs. Anyway, she is supportive, though not completely in agreement. I haven’t discussed this with her, as we haven’t had time to talk about it today.

I don’t know which question I should ask first (or where this thread should be, for that matter), or at all.

What do I do now?
What about that calling I have believed God had for me? Was I completely wrong about it, did I make a grave error in getting married, or is it just different from what I thought about it?
Was I being presumptive? I was trying to lay a fleece before God, as Gideon did, but did I test God inappropriately?
You are a very blessed man, Gecko. I was not a youth pastor, however I was in the Pentecostal faith for over 20 years and my heart reached out to you as I read your post. I, too, thought that Catholics were potential converts. I can share the “longer” version of my conversion, but for now suffice it to say that approximately 7 years ago, I began to question some of my Pentecostal doctrine. I began to study the early Church fathers and discovered that they were very Catholic. Like you, I listened to copious amounts of CD’s (Journey Home), EWTN, and a host of books. And like you, Karl Keating’s book, Catholicism and Fundamentalism blew me away. I was floored by all the misconceived ideas I had of the Catholic faith. This was the book I was looking for - it finally explained the faith in more than general terms. I studied the Faith for 5 years.

You are very blessed in that you have a supportive wife and you are wise in respecting her position. If she is to come to the Catholic faith, let her see it for herself and don’t “push” it on her. Just answer her questions and leave it at that.

Know that God has directed your steps thus far. You did not marry the “wrong” person. You were not incorrect in your calling. You did not inappropriately “test” God. God simply used all of these things to bring you to the place you are today. Always remember Romans 8:28.

If God can take our mistakes and turn them into something beautiful, imagine what can He do with the "right " we’ve done.

What to do next? I would talk with a local parish priest. You will probably have to go through the RCIA program (Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults) and then come into full communion with the Catholic Church.

You were not being presumptive - what you probably experienced was the conversion of heart. You already knew the faith in your head and now it has taken root in your heart. Welcome Home, Brother. I am so excited for you and I must say that I am almost getting emotional thinking about it. Feel free to PM me.

God Bless,
CSJ
 
Also, I am officially the youth pastor in my church, and I know that this change would be a huge shift in that area, as well.

My wife has said that, if I converted, she would “go with” me, but I told her I won’t force her to do anything, or force her to change her beliefs. Anyway, she is supportive, though not completely in agreement. I haven’t discussed this with her, as we haven’t had time to talk about it today.

I don’t know which question I should ask first (or where this thread should be, for that matter), or at all.

What do I do now?
What about that calling I have believed God had for me? Was I completely wrong about it, did I make a grave error in getting married, or is it just different from what I thought about it?
Was I being presumptive? I was trying to lay a fleece before God, as Gideon did, but did I test God inappropriately?
we have a huge need for qualified youth ministers in the Catholic Church and a married couple is excellent in this ministry

Your wife might benefit from reading Rome Sweet Home by Kimberly and Scott Hahn (she also was a minister’s daughter, he was a minister) and their conversion story, and the hurdles she herself had to face as her husband was doing all is study and research.

you are married so that is your vocation

contact the Coming Home Network in Zanesville Ohio, that is the group started by Marcus Grodi who has the Journey Home program on Monday evening on EWTN for specifically Protestants in ministry in their own churches who are converting to Catholicism, to help them with the additional challenge of finding meaningful work, as they also lose their livelihoods when the come into full communion with the Catholic Church. As well there are the problems of what to tell your congregation, your senior pastor, and your family, and they can help.
 
Thank you all for the advice. I called a couple Parishes near my home. The priest at the closest (about 4 blocks away) is out of town until Friday, but I made an appointment to see the priest at the next closest at 2 PM this afternoon (just after 9 AM now).

Prayers are greatly appreciated, as is any further guidance.

Thanks,
SG
 
Thank you all for the advice. I called a couple Parishes near my home. The priest at the closest (about 4 blocks away) is out of town until Friday, but I made an appointment to see the priest at the next closest at 2 PM this afternoon (just after 9 AM now).

Prayers are greatly appreciated, as is any further guidance.

Thanks,
SG
If I may chime in…

I’ve also been in a similar situation not too long ago. I’m currently in RCIA and was protestant prior to that. My conversion started the same way. My wife is Catholic and when we got married, I would have never thought I’d want to convert, for several reasons. My wife never pressured me to convert. It started as just being curious about the Catholic faith. Personally, in my protestant upbringing, I don’t recall any “anti-Catholic” talk from any protestants. But the interests in learning about what it was sparked, and I visited this site often and attended Mass with my wife’s family at times (didn’t take Communion out of respect for their beliefs, although I disagreed with their belief on it). The more I learned, the more I wanted to know. I started listening to Catholic Answers Live on EWTN, and I still listen to it very often. Eventually, my curiosity started changing. I can’t really explain it, but I began to accept some teachings of the Church despite not totally understanding them. Then it just hit me, and I decided I wanted to convert. I started RCIA late last year and even in the past several weeks, I’ve become more and more drawn to the Church. It seems like something new “clicks” every day. Now I’m to the point to where I can’t wait to be confirmed. I wish I could provide more detail, but I can’t explain in words what the feelings I have are like. I believe God lead me to do this. I wondered the other day why I didn’t do this earlier, but I think that God is doing this, and the timing is absolutely perfect. There are still things that I’m struggling to understand, but somehow I KNOW it’s right. Again, I wish I could explain it, but I just can’t. It’s a very peaceful, calming yet exciting experience for me that get’s deeper every day. I’ll pray for you and your family. Like others, I’d also recommend speaking with a Priest, attending Mass and going to an RCIA program(RCIA doesn’t mean you HAVE to join, you can just go and learn). Keep praying and learning and if you’re experience is anything like mine, you’ll know exacly without a doubt what to do. God Bless!
 
Just to update you all:

The meeting with the priest went very well and was very encouraging. He encouraged me to keep reading and learning about the Catholic faith and to feel free to contact him again.

Thanks everyone for your advice and prayers.

-SG
 
I hope you know, your story is a big inspiration to me. I’m a cradle Catholic trying to reignite her faith, and little stories like this just hit me in a way very few things do!

I will pray for you! I hope God leads you to the best path!
 
Just to update you all:

The meeting with the priest went very well and was very encouraging. He encouraged me to keep reading and learning about the Catholic faith and to feel free to contact him again.

Thanks everyone for your advice and prayers.

-SG
Hello,

Welcome to this wonderful journey! I came home to the Church in 2006. The most important thing to do during this time is pray and pray some more!

Everyone has given you wonderful advice. Take your time and ask many questions. One thing I don’t think anyone has mentioned is the Coming Home Network. Marcus Grodi is the host of The Journey Home on EWTN and he runs CHN. I believe there is a link to Coming Home Network on this website. He was a minister who came home to the Church and his network helps pastors make this journey. I think they would be a great support for you considering you are a minister.

May God bless you as you continue on your way!

In Christ’s Love,
Maggie
 
Sleeping_gecko, get a copy of The Catechism of The Catholic Church (any Catholic/most christian bookstores will carry it). It is a universal reference for the beliefs of Catholics, with references to scripture.

Alternatively, you can reference it online at usccb.org/catechism/text/

Also, a searchabe online Catholic bible here: usccb.org/nab/bible/index.shtml

And since you are a family man, ( I’m probably WAY early in this last suggestion, about Consecrating your Family, but I wanted to throw the link to you anyway, so as not to have missed the chance:)
familyland.be/family_consecration/introduction-to-consecration-to-the-holy-family.html

May the Grace of God to enlighten your heart abundantly shine upon you . .

-S
 
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