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cho_pilo
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Any medical explanations convincing for being against contraception? Linking contraception to abortion is a very strong argument, IMO.
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Alix1912
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Because there are many types of ABC which all work in different ways it’s impossible to link each one to either a medical reason or tie it to abortion.
There are several types of ABC that are abortificants, meaning they either kill or prevent a already fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Examples of this are IUD’s, certain types of the Pill, and certain types of morning after pills. (Certain types of the pill do actually totally shut down the female reproductive system, and certain types of the morning after pill (often used in rape cases) stop ovulation if it has not yet occured.) Most of these methods have medical side effects as well. An improperly inserted IUD can perforate the uterine wall, and prolonged use of certain types of IUD’s has been linked to sterilization. There are new studies coming out that prolonged use of ths pill can lead to certain cancers and infertility as well.
Many types of ABC are simply barrier methods, they prevent the egg and the sperm from meeting. An example of these are condoms. More permenant examples are getting your tubes tied or a hystorectomy (hystorectomies are rarely performed for simply birth control reasons). These simply make it so the egg and sperm never meet. They are not a form of abortion, as they are preventing fertilization not harming an already fertilized egg. There are medical risks to any surgical procedure like a hystorectomy or getting one’s tubes tied, but there are no medical risks to using a temporary barrier method like a condom.
The Catholic Church is morally opposed to ABC, but if you are trying to find a medical or abortion related reason against ABC, they will only apply to certain types. I’m LCMS and our church opposes ABC that harms an already fertilized egg as we believe that a person is a person from the moment of conception, however there are no prohibitions against barrier methods.
There are several types of ABC that are abortificants, meaning they either kill or prevent a already fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. Examples of this are IUD’s, certain types of the Pill, and certain types of morning after pills. (Certain types of the pill do actually totally shut down the female reproductive system, and certain types of the morning after pill (often used in rape cases) stop ovulation if it has not yet occured.) Most of these methods have medical side effects as well. An improperly inserted IUD can perforate the uterine wall, and prolonged use of certain types of IUD’s has been linked to sterilization. There are new studies coming out that prolonged use of ths pill can lead to certain cancers and infertility as well.
Many types of ABC are simply barrier methods, they prevent the egg and the sperm from meeting. An example of these are condoms. More permenant examples are getting your tubes tied or a hystorectomy (hystorectomies are rarely performed for simply birth control reasons). These simply make it so the egg and sperm never meet. They are not a form of abortion, as they are preventing fertilization not harming an already fertilized egg. There are medical risks to any surgical procedure like a hystorectomy or getting one’s tubes tied, but there are no medical risks to using a temporary barrier method like a condom.
The Catholic Church is morally opposed to ABC, but if you are trying to find a medical or abortion related reason against ABC, they will only apply to certain types. I’m LCMS and our church opposes ABC that harms an already fertilized egg as we believe that a person is a person from the moment of conception, however there are no prohibitions against barrier methods.
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FightingFat
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“I thought birth control pills stopped fertilization when in fact that is not the case. The pills stop the already-fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. In other words, they act as abortifacients.”
Loads of stuff here:
priestsforlife.org/postabortion/jmabortifacients.htm
Loads of stuff here:
priestsforlife.org/postabortion/jmabortifacients.htm
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cho_pilo
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Thanks for the responses so far.
Another question. What’s the difference between aborting because contraception failed and aborting because natural method failed?
Another question. What’s the difference between aborting because contraception failed and aborting because natural method failed?
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Alix1912
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There isn’t a difference. Abortion is killing another person, regardless of the motivation or reasons behind the decision. The only reason that the LCMS allows for abortion is in the case of the mother’s life is in danger and there is no other medical way to save it AND the baby is not going to survive either way. A tubal pregnancy is about the only example of this I can readily think of. Needless to say this reason accounts for less that 1% of abortions in our country. Well over 95% of abortions in the US are performed for reasons of Birth Control, or Culling.
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dmar198
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The abortion isn’t different, only the form of birth regulation used prior to the abortion is different.
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cho_pilo
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so what is the difference of abortion if both methods failed?
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dmar198
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There is no difference of abortion. It’s immoral in either case.
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cho_pilo
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Are you saying the even natural method is immoral once it fails?
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dmar198
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No. I’m saying that just because your method failed doesn’t give you a right to kill your baby. You may never abort a child – no matter how you got pregnant.
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cho_pilo
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I see your point now. Thanks, dmar198;8016063.
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dmar198
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Your rockne.
Ask again anytime.
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Rence
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Well, artificial birth control works in different ways. Condoms, as a barrier method, don’t act as abortificants in any way.
Oral Contraceptives work in different ways, such as:
So oral contraceptives first work to inhibit ovulation, secondly, they work to alter the cervical mucus, which makes it harder for the sperm to travel to the egg. And thirdly, it changes the lining of the uterus, which “reduce the liklihood of implantation”.
As to “how to connect contraception and abortion”, there are those who think that just being on contraception will lead someone to having an abortion if that contraception fails. Others don’t buy it. If you don’t believe in abortion, whether you’re on artificial birth control or not is not going to make a difference if one becomes pregnant.
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TimothyH
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I don’t know about a medical link but there is a clear social link.
Contraception enables our culture of recreational sex. It is exactly the culture of recreational sex which has produced the demand for abortion. Anything, contraception included, which perpetuates and enables recreational sex on demand, is a contributor to the demand for abortions.
That’s why Catholics and those who fight against abortion yet use contraception or council its use, including men who get vasectomies, are hypocritical. These people fight against abortion but perpetuate the culture of recreational sex which produces the demand for abortion by supporting and usine contraception.
Anyone who supports the use of or uses contraception is directly contributing to the root cause of abortions.
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Contraception enables our culture of recreational sex. It is exactly the culture of recreational sex which has produced the demand for abortion. Anything, contraception included, which perpetuates and enables recreational sex on demand, is a contributor to the demand for abortions.
That’s why Catholics and those who fight against abortion yet use contraception or council its use, including men who get vasectomies, are hypocritical. These people fight against abortion but perpetuate the culture of recreational sex which produces the demand for abortion by supporting and usine contraception.
Anyone who supports the use of or uses contraception is directly contributing to the root cause of abortions.
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cho_pilo
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So, there is no strong midical argument against artificial birth control other than side effects. Correct?
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Rence
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You’re forgetting about all those married couples who use artificial birth control…
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Rence
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Strong medical argument against artificial birth control other than side effects? Well, no – not unless one has health issues that would be exacerbated by the side effects of their choice of artificial birth control. Whenever someone takes a medication (any medication), there are side effects associated with taking that medication. And one has to weigh the benefits of taking the medication against the risks from taking that medication. No matter what the side effects are, if the patient believes the risks that come with taking contraceptives outweigh the risk of getting pregnant, then it really doesn’t matter what those risks are. It depends on the individual, their state of health, and what’s going on in their lives that they are trying to avoid getting pregnant.
And condoms don’t pose any medical risks when used to avoid pregnancy…unless one is allergic to the condom material or the lubricants, etc.
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cho_pilo
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Please tell me what pills stop fertilized ovum from attaching to uterus. Thanks.
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Alix1912
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No one on here is qualified to do that. You would need to speak to an OBGYN for that information. I believe it can vary depending on the person.
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