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JVSantos
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A Seminarian with a strong and solid calling will come out even stronger after his seminary formation. It’s the person.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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The use of quotes are the word Catholic here is offensive and has no place on this forum.Traditional Roman Catholic Clergy and the New “Catholic” Clergy of the New “Catholic" Order (the Novus Ordo)
C.D.? The Carmelites in the Catholic Church are either O.Carm. or O.C.D., is your “order” not in communion with Rome?Friar Elias, C.D.
Discalced religious of the Order of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary of Mt. Carmel
I think that is an important thing to know so that we know where you are comging from and we can weigh your opinion appropriately.
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hwriggles4
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This thread looks like it got derailed quite a bit. I’ll give my 2 cents on the original question.
I went through a discernment process a few years ago, and visited a few seminaries. Because I was a little older (40), and had a successful career along with some self-study in the Church (I’m a revert), I was willing to go to Holy Apostles in Cromwell, CT. Holy Apostles has a reputation for orthodoxy. There, a candidate can go without being sponsored by a diocese for their pre-Theology, and the candidate must attend pre-Theology on his own dime. Keep in mind in order to do this one must have at least a Bachelor’s Degree already. Once your pre-Theology is completed, then the candidate must apply and be accepted to a diocese in order to continue Major Seminary.
The brother of a friend of mine who was ordained last year a priest paid his own way to do the Pre-Theologate at Ave Maria University. Around the time of completion, he was accepted by a Florida diocese for Major Seminary, and his bishop sent him to the NAC.
My diocese (and a neighboring diocese) send older candidates to Blessed John XXIII in Boston, which I’m told has undergone a turnover for the better since the sex abuse scandals.
I know some older candidates are sent to a special seminary in Hales Corner, Wisconsin, and I have known two good priests who went there. However, after meeting an administrator there some time ago and visiting with a few priests who are alumni, my opinion was that seminary was more for men over 50, so I didn’t feel like I would be a good “fit” there. In addition, (and this is just my opinion), the curriculum seemed to be more of a crash course to get ordained within four years.
I went through a discernment process a few years ago, and visited a few seminaries. Because I was a little older (40), and had a successful career along with some self-study in the Church (I’m a revert), I was willing to go to Holy Apostles in Cromwell, CT. Holy Apostles has a reputation for orthodoxy. There, a candidate can go without being sponsored by a diocese for their pre-Theology, and the candidate must attend pre-Theology on his own dime. Keep in mind in order to do this one must have at least a Bachelor’s Degree already. Once your pre-Theology is completed, then the candidate must apply and be accepted to a diocese in order to continue Major Seminary.
The brother of a friend of mine who was ordained last year a priest paid his own way to do the Pre-Theologate at Ave Maria University. Around the time of completion, he was accepted by a Florida diocese for Major Seminary, and his bishop sent him to the NAC.
My diocese (and a neighboring diocese) send older candidates to Blessed John XXIII in Boston, which I’m told has undergone a turnover for the better since the sex abuse scandals.
I know some older candidates are sent to a special seminary in Hales Corner, Wisconsin, and I have known two good priests who went there. However, after meeting an administrator there some time ago and visiting with a few priests who are alumni, my opinion was that seminary was more for men over 50, so I didn’t feel like I would be a good “fit” there. In addition, (and this is just my opinion), the curriculum seemed to be more of a crash course to get ordained within four years.
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hwriggles4
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Building on to the last thread, a few seminaries I would recommend are:
*Goodbye, Good Men *did a breakdown of many of the problematic seminaries in the United States. Some of these problematic seminaries have either been cleaned out or closed altogether. *Goodbye Good Men *mentioned Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, which began a positive transformation when Bishop Vigneron was appointed as rector circa 1995. Fr. Groeschel mentioned the positive turnover one evening on Sunday Night Live. The Atheneum (aka Mount St. Mary’s of the West) in Cincinnati (the author of Goodbye Good Men is from Cincinnati) seems to have had some positive turnover as well. I met some seminarians from there at the 2007 March for Life who were “on fire”. Last year, I met a seminarian from Mount Angel Seminary in Oregon, which according to him, has seen a much positive transformation since it’s heterodox days of the 1980’s.
I hope St. Mary’s Seminary in Baltimore has had some cleanout. That was mentioned in Goodbye Good Men, as was the seminary in Cleveland. I do know a few dioceses stopped sending seminarians to Baltimore, but there were quite a few dioceses known for watering down that sent seminarians to Baltimore. Likewise, I hope the seminary in Cleveland has had some turnover for the better (I’ve heard Cleveland had a fairly large ordination class for 2012, which sounds positive. Cleveland got a new bishop circa 2006).
One poster mentioned St. Vincent’s Seminary in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. I found out Scott Hahn has taught a class there. I’ve also been told in recent years that St. John Vianney Seminary in Miami has started turning over for the better (I heard that place was in the same league (or worse) as St. Mary’s in Baltimore).
Didn’t mean to put a dissertation, but I thought this would help. *Goodbye Good Men *came out in 2002, and I read it then. I’m glad I wasn’t an 18 or 21 year old seminarian in the 1980’s. I would have been lost.
- Mount St. Mary’s in Emmittsburg, Maryland
- St. Charles Borromeo Seminary in Philadelphia, PA.
- St. John Vianney in Denver, CO.
- Holy Apostles Seminary in Cromwell, CT
*Goodbye, Good Men *did a breakdown of many of the problematic seminaries in the United States. Some of these problematic seminaries have either been cleaned out or closed altogether. *Goodbye Good Men *mentioned Sacred Heart Major Seminary in Detroit, which began a positive transformation when Bishop Vigneron was appointed as rector circa 1995. Fr. Groeschel mentioned the positive turnover one evening on Sunday Night Live. The Atheneum (aka Mount St. Mary’s of the West) in Cincinnati (the author of Goodbye Good Men is from Cincinnati) seems to have had some positive turnover as well. I met some seminarians from there at the 2007 March for Life who were “on fire”. Last year, I met a seminarian from Mount Angel Seminary in Oregon, which according to him, has seen a much positive transformation since it’s heterodox days of the 1980’s.
I hope St. Mary’s Seminary in Baltimore has had some cleanout. That was mentioned in Goodbye Good Men, as was the seminary in Cleveland. I do know a few dioceses stopped sending seminarians to Baltimore, but there were quite a few dioceses known for watering down that sent seminarians to Baltimore. Likewise, I hope the seminary in Cleveland has had some turnover for the better (I’ve heard Cleveland had a fairly large ordination class for 2012, which sounds positive. Cleveland got a new bishop circa 2006).
One poster mentioned St. Vincent’s Seminary in Latrobe, Pennsylvania. I found out Scott Hahn has taught a class there. I’ve also been told in recent years that St. John Vianney Seminary in Miami has started turning over for the better (I heard that place was in the same league (or worse) as St. Mary’s in Baltimore).
Didn’t mean to put a dissertation, but I thought this would help. *Goodbye Good Men *came out in 2002, and I read it then. I’m glad I wasn’t an 18 or 21 year old seminarian in the 1980’s. I would have been lost.
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