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No, but looking at several health issues (some on the gyn field) he said that in a not very friendly way. I changed him.
 
Thank you all again for this (name removed by moderator)ut. Once more a thread was very helpful for me to be clear with my thoughts.
 
I pray it will not prevent you to have children somedays.

Doctors can be hard… Perhaps he is not happy of what I he found, so he express anger against you…

Good to have changed him.
 
Anicette said:
I pray it will not prevent you to have children somedays.

Doctors can be hard… Perhaps he is not happy of what I he found, so he express anger against you…

Good to have changed him.
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Thank you very much for your prayer. I do, too.
I got the information that in germany, a doctor won´t tell a person to be worried until one year of trying without success. This is a way more time than I expected. I found a NFP center in a catholic hospital some hours away and will try to make an information meeting with them. They seem to work only with some kind of sympto-thermal method, called “senisplan”, maybe the results will be interesting.
I have still not done the final hormonal tests (ahm especially) my doctor told me to do to “know it exactly” as it won´t make a difference for us. He already told us it can be difficult and that we shouln´t wait long and to know more bad stuff would be simply stressful for us. I pray that it happens when ever god gifts us.
 
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I got the information that in germany, a doctor won´t tell a person to be worried until one year of trying without success.
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I think that’s also standard in the US. I believe here, one year of trying is the minimum for “infertile.”
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I have still not done the final hormonal tests (ahm especially) my doctor told me to do to “know it exactly” as it won´t make a difference for us. He already told us it can be difficult and that we shouln´t wait long and to know more bad stuff would be simply stressful for us.
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It “helps” that Catholics don’t have the long list of possibilities that non-Catholic couples do…

So it may be a lot faster to exhaust your options.
 
Xantippe said:
It “helps” that Catholics don’t have the long list of possibilities that non-Catholic couples do…

So it may be a lot faster to exhaust your options.
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Yess…sometimes I feel I understand some things on a practical matter now I didn´t before 😉
It´s a bit hard to get all the counting and evaluating out of my head. I didn´t know, for example, that it is possible to have regular circles without ovulating and feeling nothing. Now this scares me really…I´ll go for some ovulation tests and will longterm switch to more advanced NFP. At the moment, I´m worrying that my doc was right and it will be “extremely difficult”. At least, this scare is answer enough for me - we skipped the time table for this year and will try our luck.
 
End of term stress can’t possibly help.

I once had a 50Âąday cycle in my early/mid-20s in graduate school that coincided with the end of term/Christmas holidays.

Good luck!
 
Thanks you for the news!

Yes. The one year before starting fertility evaluation and treatments is what is recommanded by WHO. And the rule for many countries.

Approximatly 85% of couples conceived in one year. Stats can vary in differents contries…and of course because of the age.

But this delay is very short. In fact some couples conceived naturally in the second year. before, it was recommanded to wait 2 years. This delay was shortened because the couples are more aged, the fertility treatments available, and the pressure for a planned pregnnacy very high.
But as a consequence, some couple try IVF whereas the conception could have naturally occured. And occured sometimes for an other baby.

For my first pregnancy, I was in the second year category.

It is interested that contacted this catholic hospital. Even if it is very far away! :roll_eyes:

Sensiplan, is what I have write to you, for Germany. You will see!

It can increased your chances, but the final “decision” would be left to God. You cannot control everything. The hard part is not be too worry and disapointed about…😏 And I know it is hard!
 
yeh…

I have had a perhaps more than 60 days cycle more than a decade ago, that coincided with the beginning of my relationship with my know husband… And pregnancy could’nt had been the cause…

Maybe the stress? As you said…
 
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Sensiplan, is what I have write to you, for Germany. You will see!
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Yeah, I see- thank you again! There are two german bigger websites around nfp, I didn’t realized that both are regarding senisplan. I got the app and ordered a basal thermometer. Ovulation tests were positive for four days, but no zervix, and I fear it doesn’t work with ovulation finally caused by too much androgenes. The idea of tracking temperature for several cicles to know this for sure is making me mad right now 😖
 
I am sorry…

But do no feel desesperate, it is just the beginning…

Do you feel that tracking your basal temperature for many cycles is boring and too restrictive or are you afraid of what you can found?

zervix? What is it? Do you mean cervix?
If it is, normally mucus is more important, cervix can be an help.

Too much androgenes? Do you have, for feel that you can have PCOS?

So, in Germany you have the choose regarding NFP between Sensiplan and… Sensiplan? (Whoo…)
 
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I am sorry…

But do no feel desesperate, it is just the beginning…

Do you feel that tracking your basal temperature for many cycles is boring and too restrictive or are you afraid of what you can found?

zervix? What is it? Do you mean cervix?

If it is, normally mucus is more important, cervix can be an help.

Too much androgenes? Do you have, for feel that you can have PCOS?

So, in Germany you have the choose regarding NFP between Sensiplan and… Sensiplan? (Whoo…)
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Thank you! I am not happy with tracking temperature because I fear the result and the months it will take won’t make my chances better. I saw a doctor last autumn and was told that two years of waiting until we try is too risky and could mean finally infertility. I was told to try it earlier or take the pill to save the hormonal Situation. As I can’t take the pill because of huge side effects, we choose the middle way and startet trying now, 6 months later. It’s not clearly pco as many symptoms as the visible organic ovariol anomaly and overweight with irregular cycles aren’t there. But too much androgenes too have good chances.
Yes I meant cervix. It was clearly easy to watch years ago, now I have not the average ovariol symptoms anymore, only more libido in the middle of the cycles is there.
Yeah germany is nfp wasteland ;-D it’s hard enough to find a doctor who doesn’t say nfp is esoteric nonsense. Those who support often tell " if it works for you, fine, but I won’t train you". If I had any documented medicinic education, I would maybe go for a “carrer” as nfp trainer. It’s so much needed here.
 
I just checked out “mucus” in german and it’s not clearly defined. Do we talk about the general feel like “wet” or “dry” senisplan uses to describe the feeling?
 
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Yeah germany is nfp wasteland ;-D it’s hard enough to find a doctor who doesn’t say nfp is esoteric nonsense.
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That’s amazing.

I would at least think that Germany would have a lot of interest in NFP to achieve pregnancy–it’s NATURAL.
 
Yes, but the pill is some kind of commandment here. It’s slowly changing because of side effect awareness, but usually the result is : " the new pill generation is the way to go". Here in my county, one of the larger ones, there is one nfp trained person listed for only one method (!).
I had a lot of “how does this work, it’s not alternative medicine nonsense?” talks recently.
 
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The Little Lady,

Thanks, but I have check Germany on their official website, woomb, and don’t find any contact in germany…
 
Mucus! I have also the same problem with you with the English world until I found in an English version, the french translation which is “la glaire”.

I don’t speak German but the German translation on google translation is "
Zervixschleim".

Hope it is the right!

The mucus is what is produce by the cervix. It is not just a vaginal product like in arousal.
The cervical mucus change in quality (color, consitance…) and in presence or even absence in the woman’s cycle.

the sensation can be wet or dry…

It permits to the spermatozoides to survive in the vagina and cross the cervical canal in the fertile period. Or it close to them the entry in the infertile period.
 
Anicette said:
Mucus! I have also the same problem with you with the English world until I found in an English version, the french translation which is “la glaire”.

I don’t speak German but the German translation on google translation is "

Zervixschleim".

Hope it is the right!

The mucus is what is produce by the cervix. It is not just a vaginal product like in arousal.

The cervical mucus change in quality (color, consitance…) and in presence or even absence in the woman’s cycle.

the sensation can be wet or dry…

It permits to the spermatozoides to survive in the vagina and cross the cervical canal in the fertile period. Or it close to them the entry in the infertile period.
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Ahh, ok! Exactly this mucus is not really suitable for tracking anymore in my case. Some years ago it changed sgnifically over the cycle, now it´s just a difference in the feel (wet and dry),not really a fertility sign…
 
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