Seventh-day Sabbath Questions And Answers

[Maria1212]

Jesus says “If you love me keep my commandments.” Jn. 14:15
I think He was talking about the ten commandments, all ten.

That is your personal opinion. Where in the New Testament does Jesus instruct his followers to follow the Jewish sabbath? In addition, where does Jesus say the sabbath must be observed on Saturday? How about the Apostles?

Jesus teaches us to love God with all of our heart, strength, mind, and soul. He also teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. How does choosing to celebrate the Lords ressurection, including celebrating the Lords Day on Sunday violate our Lord`s teachings?

Sincerely,

Maria1212

 

[mercygate]

That is your personal opinion. Where in the New Testament does Jesus instruct his followers to follow the Jewish sabbath? In addition, where does Jesus say the sabbath must be observed on Saturday? How about the Apostles?

Jesus teaches us to love God with all of our heart, strength, mind, and soul. He also teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. How does choosing to celebrate the Lords ressurection, including celebrating the Lords Day on Sunday violate our Lord`s teachings?

Sincerely,

Maria1212

[SIGN]Amen![/SIGN]Jesus IS the Sabbath.

 

[lak611]

Strictly speaking, there is no sabbath anymore…Not for Christians. The sabbath was part of the Mosaic law. (Still is, for Jews, but that is another thread).
Christians are to observe, through worship, the “Lord’s Day”–ie, the day that Jesus Christ arose from the dead. That was/is the day* after* the sabbath…Which is to say, Sunday.

I agree.

 

[clmowry]

Altho the calender has been changed the seven day sequence we call the week has never been compromised.

Sure we can count 1-7 and repeat…but if its “the day” that matters as being maintained by some in this thread then 7 being on the “right” day must matter, must it not?

Or perhaps whether the day is Monday, Wednesday, Saturday or Sunday what’s important is that we dedicate time to rest and to growing closer to God, not that we do so on “the right day”?

In fact I would even argue that the perceived “problem” has taken care of itself.

“Sunday” may very well be “officially” the “first day” of the week, but isn’t it interesting that it has become the 2nd day of the “Weekend” and for all practical purposes, in modern times it “is” the last i.e. 7th day of the week.

Chuck

 

[Richard_Kastner]

That is your personal opinion. Where in the New Testament does Jesus instruct his followers to follow the Jewish sabbath? In addition, where does Jesus say the sabbath must be observed on Saturday? How about the Apostles?

Jesus teaches us to love God with all of our heart, strength, mind, and soul. He also teaches us to love our neighbor as ourselves. How does choosing to celebrate the Lords ressurection, including celebrating the Lords Day on Sunday violate our Lord`s teachings?

Sincerely,

Maria1212

Well you raise a lot of questions. I hope I can answer them adequately. First of all, it is not my opinion that Jesus said “if you love me keep my commandments” and if He wasn’t talking of the
“ten commandments” then what commandments was He talking about? Because the ten commandments are His commandments.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
As for Jesus commanding to keep the Jewish Sabbath. He didn’t because the Sabbath wasn’t given to the Jews. It was given to all mankind at creation.
Gen.2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Jesus doesn’t specifically command them to keep the Sabbath in the new testament because He already did that at creation (see above), It was a given. As for the apostles they kept the Sabbath just like Jesus did.
As you see in Gen. 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it. In Ex. 20:11 we see For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. And in Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.
24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
So in Gen2:3 we see that God blessed and sanctified the seventh day in Ex.20:11 we see the seventh day is the sabbath and in Luke 23:54-24:1 we see the preperation day (Friday, The day that Christ died), the sabbath (Saturday, The day Christ rested in the tomb), and the first day (Sunday, The day Christ rose from the dead. It is interesting to note that these women that came with Jesus’ body would not start the internment process because it was to close to the sabbath. They kept the sabbath day after Christ’s death.

In your last paragraph you seem to assume that the Lord’s day is Sunday. In Mark 2 we have 27" And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." If the son of man is Lord of the sabbath. I think it is safe to assume that the sabbath is the Lord’s day.

Your last question has to do with obedeince after all isn’t that what this whole sabbath question is about. Who we give our allegience to. You say “How does choosing to celebrate the Lords ressurection, including celebrating the Lords Day on Sunday violate our Lord`s teachings?”. It violates the Lord’s teachings because you are choosing to substatute the Lord’s holy and sanctified day for a day that man has chosen. It violates the Lord’s teachings because we are substituting what God says the day should commemorate (creation), for what man says we should commemorate (resurrection) no matter how noble and good that sounds. The bottom line is who are you obedeint to man or God. Who is your allegeince to man or God. I sincerely hope you choose correctly. In Christ Richard

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Sure we can count 1-7 and repeat…but if its “the day” that matters as being maintained by some in this thread then 7 being on the “right” day must matter, must it not?

Or perhaps whether the day is Monday, Wednesday, Saturday or Sunday what’s important is that we dedicate time to rest and to growing closer to God, not that we do so on “the right day”?

In fact I would even argue that the perceived “problem” has taken care of itself.

“Sunday” may very well be “officially” the “first day” of the week, but isn’t it interesting that it has become the 2nd day of the “Weekend” and for all practical purposes, in modern times it “is” the last i.e. 7th day of the week.

Chuck

"what’s important is that we dedicate time to rest and to growing closer to God, not that we do so on “the right day”?
I would disagree with this. While it is very important to rest and to grow closer to the Lord. We don’t get to call the day. God blessed and sanctified the seventh day sabbath. Its a matter of who we are obedeint to man or God.In Christ Richard

 

[Maria1212]

"what’s important is that we dedicate time to rest and to growing closer to God, not that we do so on “the right day”?

I would disagree with this. While it is very important to rest and to grow closer to the Lord. We don’t get to call the day. God blessed and sanctified the seventh day sabbath. Its a matter of who we are obedeint to man or God.In Christ Richard

Dear Richard,

The Saturday Sabbath versus Sunday debate has been discussed so thoroughly on other threads so I am not going to restart that effort here. I encourage you to comment on the pre-existing threads. You can find them with a quick search. The three sites listed below my signature also discuss this in-depth.

The perception that Christians need to observe the **Jewish **Sabbath in order to fulfill our Lords commandments is not supported by Scripture. If you believe "We dont get to call the day" (and I agree) then you should rethink why Adventists claim they are the ones who appear to have gotten Gods word right. I know you believe you are right, but Catholics and many other non-Catholic Christians have solid Biblical reason for celebrating the Lords Day on Sunday. Adventist interpretation of Scripture differs from that of Catholics and other Christians which leads to separate conclusions drawn from the same Bible.

The other reason the Adventist “either-or-approach” fails with Catholics is because Catholics view the oral and written word of God as inextricably linked: like two fonts of the one spring of revelation. Church Tradition is different from man-made tradition. Catholics regard Tradition as the handing on of Christs teachings (and the Apostles) by written and oral means. Since Adventists do not share this view, it is like "talking past each other" when we discuss our Lords teachings.

As you know, Jesus, and the first Christians preached. We know this from Scripture, from Church Tradition, and from studying history. In addition to studying history, part of it is just plain logic, when we remember mass literacy is a new achievement.

The first Christians preached orally. They didnt hand out copies of the New Testament! Much of the New Testament was not yet written, much less established in its final form. Moreover, as the Bible tells us, not all of Jesuss teachings and works are recorded in the Bible. Catholics believe that Church Tradition is neither more, nor less, than the preserved teaching of Christ as revealed to, and proclaimed by the Apostles. Thus, Catholic doctrine cannot change. We do develop an increased understanding of Our Lord`s teachings, but note this is an increased understanding, not in the essence of this apostolic Tradition.

Tradition, even in the Catholic sense, permeates throughout Scripture. Only a prejudice against such a notion or undue concentration on certain parts of Scripture at the expense of other parts of Scripture (such as solely concentrating on Jesus`s rejection of corrupt human pharisaical traditions, could blind the reader to the Scriptural evidence that supports the Catholic understanding of Tradition and the oral word of God.

Adventist doctrine foolishly disregards what God has taught millions of other Christians throughout the centuries. We must all avoid approaching Scripture with a philosophy that is itself not Biblical. Adventists argue that the Bible is all-inclusive but this is not true. Scripture tells us the written word of God is not all of God`s word.

Frankly, Adventists define themselves by their opposition to the Catholic Church. Adventists force Scripture into Ellen White`s mold. Each Christian must make sure they do not force Scripture into their preconceived mold.

Finally, Catholics do not limit their worshipping of our Lord to Sunday. Mass is celebrated every day around the world.

I recommend to everyone on this thread the following books:

A Biblical Defense of Catholicism by David Armstrong

Crossing the Tiber: Evangelical Protestants Discover the Historical Church by Stephen K. Ray.

Sincerely,

Maria1212

 

[Milliardo]

How many 7th days can there be?

It actually would depend; the Saturday Sabbath (or what would correspond to Saturday in Judaism), is a Jewish tradition; nowhere is it mentioned in Genesis what the seventh day is. God made creation for six days and rested on the seventh is as far as we can get about it. Jewish tradition would later fix that day on what would correspond to a Saturday. Fast forward to the New Testament, and how Sunday worship came about for Christianity–in Acts 20:7 we find that Christians broke bread on the day after the Sabbath, which technically would be on a Sunday. At that point, Christians still observed the Saturday Sabbath along with the Jews. After the final break between Judaism and Christianity and the expulsion of Christians from the synagogue, Christians took the Saturday Sabbath and fixed it on their Sunday observance of the Lord’s day–hence, Sunday worship. Does this violate then the Commandment of observing the Sabbath? No; as mentioned, originally the Sabbath as the day the Lord rested had no actual corresponding day. Christian observance of the Sabbath would still fall perfectly into that Commandment then, if one would .look at it logically.

 

[St_Violet]

Did Jesus not give us more then 10 commandments?
Are these not also his commandments?/:

Do not make oaths
Give to the Needy
To Not worry
Do not Judge Others
Watch out for false prophets (or prophetess)
Love the Lord your God
Love your neighbor and enemies
Pray for those who mistreat you
Repent
Forgive

Me being a God-fearing man and a Catholic, I also take these commandments I listed above just as seriously as the 10 commandments in Exodus. the seventh-day adventist in the other hand center their lives in just the 10, particularly the 3rd (for protestants, the fourth) and sometimes having a tendacy to forget the other commandments which Christ emphasized on.

It is important to realize the 10 commandments also known as “the tablets of the covenant” was not established before Moses (Deuteronomy 5:3 3 It was not with our fathers that the LORD made this covenant, but with us, with all of us who are alive here today.). Though I understand the Sabbath is a rememberance of the creation(Gen 2:2), but we must also acknowledge that Sunday is the hallmark of a new beginning (The Ressurection:Matt. 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; John 20:1,19), an event that enabled us to be Christians. I will continue to pray that the seventhy-day adventist would understand that the teachings of students of the apostles is evidence of what the apostles felt about the Jewish Sabbath, so that The Lord will give them the understanding they claim to have.

On the Lord’s own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks, but first confess your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure." Didache, 14 (A.D. 90).
(Acts 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight. & Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.)

“We keep the eighth day [Sunday] with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead” (Letter of Barnabas 15:6–8 [A.D. 74]).

“Those who had walked in ancient practices attained unto newness of hope, no longer observing Sabbaths but fashioning their lives after the Lord’s day, on which our life also arose through Him and through His death which some men deny … how shall we be able to live apart from Him? … It is monstrous to talk of Jesus Christ and to practise Judaism. For Christianity did not believe in Judaism, but Judaism in Christianity” (Letter to the Magnesians 8 [A.D. 110]).

Therefore it is possible to practice the 3/4th commandment on Sunday.

 

[Richard_Kastner]

It actually would depend; the Saturday Sabbath (or what would correspond to Saturday in Judaism), is a Jewish tradition; nowhere is it mentioned in Genesis what the seventh day is. God made creation for six days and rested on the seventh is as far as we can get about it. Jewish tradition would later fix that day on what would correspond to a Saturday. Fast forward to the New Testament, and how Sunday worship came about for Christianity–in Acts 20:7 we find that Christians broke bread on the day after the Sabbath, which technically would be on a Sunday. At that point, Christians still observed the Saturday Sabbath along with the Jews. After the final break between Judaism and Christianity and the expulsion of Christians from the synagogue, Christians took the Saturday Sabbath and fixed it on their Sunday observance of the Lord’s day–hence, Sunday worship. Does this violate then the Commandment of observing the Sabbath? No; as mentioned, originally the Sabbath as the day the Lord rested had no actual corresponding day. Christian observance of the Sabbath would still fall perfectly into that Commandment then, if one would .look at it logically.

Are you actually suggesting that the Jews had a different set of days in their week. The only constant in this discussion is the seven day sequence of days we call a week. While the Saturday Sabbath is not mentioned in Genesis. It is mentioned in the rest of the bible (see answer Maria 1212 above) It was not Jewish tradition that would set the day as Saturday, but the author of the bible, Our Lord. As for Acts 20:7 this is merely a reference to agape meals which they ate every day Acts 2:46. In Acts 18:4,11 we see Paul setting up the church at Corinth. It says he reasoned every Sabbath for a year and a half thats 78 Sabbaths. One would think if he were setting up a Sunday keeping church there would be some mention of that here. In Christ Richard

 

[Milliardo]

Are you actually suggesting that the Jews had a different set of days in their week. The only constant in this discussion is the seven day sequence of days we call a week. While the Saturday Sabbath is not mentioned in Genesis. It is mentioned in the rest of the bible (see answer Maria 1212 above) It was not Jewish tradition that would set the day as Saturday, but the author of the bible, Our Lord.

Neither was Saturday, or its equivalent thereof, mentioned in Exodus. Again, you’ll have to argue that there’s a specific mention of it there. The only thing specified is to keep the Sabbath holy; where is it referenced that it would fall on Saturday, or its equivalent in Judaism?

As for Acts 20:7 this is merely a reference to agape meals which they ate every day Acts 2:46. In Acts 18:4,11 we see Paul setting up the church at Corinth. It says he reasoned every Sabbath for a year and a half thats 78 Sabbaths. One would think if he were setting up a Sunday keeping church there would be some mention of that here. In Christ Richard

Please read my post again; I did mention that Christians at that time still keeping the Saturday Sabbath along with the observance of the Lord’s day (Sunday–the day of Resurrection). Only after Christians were forbidden from the synagogue and Christianity cast out of Judaism did Christians felt to abandon most of Jewish customs, including the Saturday Sabbath, and instead observe Sunday as the Christian Sabbath. Given those things, where is it specifically then said that the observance of Sabbath should only be on a Saturday?

 

[Maria1212]

Are you actually suggesting that the Jews had a different set of days in their week. The only constant in this discussion is the seven day sequence of days we call a week. While the Saturday Sabbath is not mentioned in Genesis. It is mentioned in the rest of the bible (see answer Maria 1212 above) It was not Jewish tradition that would set the day as Saturday, but the author of the bible, Our Lord. As for Acts 20:7 this is merely a reference to agape meals which they ate every day Acts 2:46. In Acts 18:4,11 we see Paul setting up the church at Corinth. It says he reasoned every Sabbath for a year and a half thats 78 Sabbaths. One would think if he were setting up a Sunday keeping church there would be some mention of that here. In Christ Richard

Again, you are inserting your personal interpretation into Scripture, while ignoring other parts of Scripture. I recommend the following article, as well as the resources I have mentioned previously, because they debunk your argument.

In particular, please read this:

catholic.com/thisrock/1993/9312chap.asp

In Colossians 2:14-16, Paul mentions the sabbath by name, stating that Christ has** “canceled the bond which stood against us with its legal demands . . . Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath. These are only a shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.” **Festivals, new moons, and sabbaths were the three kinds of feast days of the Mosaic calendar (see Neh. 10:33, Lev. 23, Num. 29:6). Paul thus states that the whole Jewish festal calendar, sabbath days included, is not binding on Christians.

Sincerely,

Maria1212

 

[Maria1212]

The Sabbath: Saturday or Sunday
By Tim Staples

catholic.com/thisrock/2006/0605btb.asp

The follow-up to this article is posted here.
catholic.com/thisrock/2006/0607ltrs.asp

Changing the Sabbath
By Jimmy Atkins
catholic.com/thisrock/1993/9312chap.asp

Fathers Know Best
catholic.com/thisrock/1994/9409frs.asp

Rather than repeat the posts I have written before on why Christians are not required to observe the Jewish Sabbath, I am citing the above articles. Richard, I invite you to read these and let me know what you think.

I also recommend this thread for additional information, again, refer you to the links under my signature.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=108169&highlight=resources+adventist

Sincerely,

Maria1212

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Neither was Saturday, or its equivalent thereof, mentioned in Exodus. Again, you’ll have to argue that there’s a specific mention of it there. The only thing specified is to keep the Sabbath holy; where is it referenced that it would fall on Saturday, or its equivalent in Judaism?

I have shown in Gen. 2:1-3 that God gave mankind (not the Jews) the holy and sanctified seventh day. Ex.20:11 identifies that day as the Sabbath and Luke 23:52-24:1 shows that that day is the day between the preparation day (Friday) when Christ died and the first day when He rose.
There is also Heb.9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
and Gal.3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
So even if Paul or Peter or anyone else wanted to the covenant could not be changed because it had been confirmed by the blood of Christ.

Please read my post again; I did mention that Christians at that time still keeping the Saturday Sabbath along with the observance of the Lord’s day (Sunday–the day of Resurrection). Only after Christians were forbidden from the synagogue and Christianity cast out of Judaism did Christians felt to abandon most of Jewish customs, including the Saturday Sabbath, and instead observe Sunday as the Christian Sabbath. Given those things, where is it specifically then said that the observance of Sabbath should only be on a Saturday?

There has always been a true remnant church which “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”
Rev.12:17 Yours in Christ Richard

 

[Milliardo]

I have shown in Gen. 2:1-3 that God gave mankind (not the Jews) the holy and sanctified seventh day. Ex.20:11

Not my point; my point is, show us where exactly is it stated that the Sabbath should be on what corresponds to be a Saturday. You can turn the Old Testament over and over, but you won’t find it. Also, Exodus 20:11 is specific only to the Jews. That is very clear that the Laws given by God is for them. At that point, God has not yet fully revealed His plan for mankind, fulfilled in Jesus.

Luke 23:52-24:1 shows that that day is the day between the preparation day (Friday) when Christ died and the first day when He rose.

This is already after the fact was made; in short, it’s already an established tradition. We’re looking for a specific passage that specifically says it should be on a Saturday. I’m still waiting for that passage. You can go and quote the subsequent passages below, but it still points to it as an established Jewish tradition—what I’m interested in is where is it stated that the Sabbath should specifically fall on a Saturday. Exodus? No go. Genesis? Even more vague.

There has always been a true remnant church which “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ”
Rev.12:17 Yours in Christ Richard

…and once all have been said and done, you fall back to this line of argument.

 

[Daniel_Marsh]

I answered Saturday is the sabbath. But, I feel that I need to qualify my answer.

Saturaday will always be the Sabbath. But, Sunday is the Lord’s Day. As Christians we worship on Sunday. Genitile christians in Acts 15 were not required to worship on the Sabbath. Romans 14 proves that there were likely Jewish Chrisitans who worshipped on the Sabbath, and Gentile Chrisitans who worshipped on the Lord’s Day. Since, most of the church today is Gentile, Sunday Worship makes sense. But, if you want to worship Jesus on Saturday then more power to you. Simply, don’t judge us who worship on the Lord’s Day.

 

[SDA2RC]

Are you actually suggesting that the Jews had a different set of days in their week. The only constant in this discussion is the seven day sequence of days we call a week. While the Saturday Sabbath is not mentioned in Genesis. It is mentioned in the rest of the bible (see answer Maria 1212 above) It was not Jewish tradition that would set the day as Saturday, but the author of the bible, Our Lord. As for Acts 20:7 this is merely a reference to agape meals which they ate every day Acts 2:46. In Acts 18:4,11 we see Paul setting up the church at Corinth. It says he reasoned every Sabbath for a year and a half thats 78 Sabbaths. One would think if he were setting up a Sunday keeping church there would be some mention of that here. In Christ Richard

Richard,
The Sabbath, even according to extra Biblical Jewish writings, was not instituted for anyone until the Exodus. I would recommend doing a study on the Seven Laws of Noah, you will notice that the Sabbath is not mentioned. This is why in Ex. 16, Moses had to explain to them what a Sabbath was…what it meant… and what they could do and not do. There is simply no mention of any person keeping the Sabbath until the Jews were commanded to keep it in Exodus. Likewise, we do not see one single command for mankind to keep the Sabbath before the Jews were commanded to keep it in Exodus. The idea that the Sabbath was given to mankind in Genesis is a man made belief not supported by scripture. Even if we did accept it, it would prove little… for sacrifices were also commanded in Genesis, but alas, we don’t sacrifice animals any more either.

What we also never find in scripture is ANYONE being commanded to keep the Sabbath after the resurrection. It simply is not there. Did Paul preach on the Jewish Sabbath… sure… but to read into this act, that Paul was observing the Jewish Sabbath is again, a man made belief. If your pastor, or you yourself, went to a park where people often gathered and preached for 78 Sundays to the people there, would this mean that you are keeping Sunday holy? Of course not.

What we do find in scripture is that after the cross, the Church was given the authority to teach the gospel… The Sabbath Day was not part of this gospel. Most of their teaching was done orally, and those who received it, have told us that they worshipped the risen Lord on Sunday.

Finally… Hebrews 4 tells us that there “remains a rest/Sabbath” (not a Sabbath Day), this comment would be superflous if it was not commonly understood that the Sabbath day, which most Hebrews understood to be the rest, had not been done away with. The earthly rest given in the Sabbath, was a foreshadowing of the spiritual rest we would find only when Christ completed his life here on Earth. That rest has now come, we can embrace what Christ did for us on the cross, and there is no reason to hold onto the Sabbath Day which foreshadowed the Sabbath rest in Christ!

 

[SDA2RC]

This poll should be reworded… LOL “Which day is the Christian Sabbath”.

Brandon

 

[Richard_Kastner]

Not my point; my point is, show us where exactly is it stated that the Sabbath should be on what corresponds to be a Saturday. You can turn the Old Testament over and over, but you won’t find it. Also, Exodus 20:11 is specific only to the Jews. That is very clear that the Laws given by God is for them. At that point, God has not yet fully revealed His plan for mankind, fulfilled in Jesus.

This is already after the fact was made; in short, it’s already an established tradition. We’re looking for a specific passage that specifically says it should be on a Saturday. I’m still waiting for that passage. You can go and quote the subsequent passages below, but it still points to it as an established Jewish tradition—what I’m interested in is where is it stated that the Sabbath should specifically fall on a Saturday. Exodus? No go. Genesis? Even more vague.

Gen.2:1-3, Ex.20:11 and Luke 23:52-24-1 makes that clear.

…and once all have been said and done, you fall back to this line of argument.

First of all are you reading all of what I am writing? If you take Gen.2:1-3, Ex.20:11 and Luke 23:52-24-1 There is no question that the Sabbath is on Saturday. As for your obsession with having me show were it talks about Saturday, obviously that is not possible since the term was not used until hundreds of years after Christs death.

It’s interesting that you say the ten commandments are for the Jews only. Are you saying that as a Catholic you are not bound by God’s law and where is that made clear? It seems to me that the entire bible is about God’s plan of salvation which is fulfilled in Christ.

]…and once all have been said and done, you fall back to this line of argument./

Ya, why not, its a pretty good argument.

I noticed you don’t say anything about Heb.9:16,17 and Gal.3:15. These verses make it virtually impossible to change the wording of the old covenant. The “established Jewish tradition” asyou put it.
Yours in Christ Richard

 

[Richard_Kastner]

I answered Saturday is the sabbath. But, I feel that I need to qualify my answer.

Saturaday will always be the Sabbath. But, Sunday is the Lord’s Day. As Christians we worship on Sunday. Genitile christians in Acts 15 were not required to worship on the Sabbath. Romans 14 proves that there were likely Jewish Chrisitans who worshipped on the Sabbath, and Gentile Chrisitans who worshipped on the Lord’s Day. Since, most of the church today is Gentile, Sunday Worship makes sense. But, if you want to worship Jesus on Saturday then more power to you. Simply, don’t judge us who worship on the Lord’s Day.

Where in the bible does it state that Sunday is the Lord’s day
In Mark 2 we read 27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
If the Son of man is Lord of the sabbath, then isn’t the sabbath the Lord’s day?
Acts 15 is talking about circumcision not God’s moral law
I certainly am not judging you. What I am saying is that we don’t get to call the day thats up to God.
Yours in Christ Richard