Sheen beatification cause delayed again as New York archdiocese appeals decision to transfer remains [CWN]
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tawny
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It was Archbishop Sheen’s stated wish to be interred in St. Patrick’s Cathedral.
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phil19034
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Not according to his family.
With all seriousness, the Archdiocese of New York should let this go.
Archbishop Sheen was a priest of Peoria and only an Auxiliary Bishop of New York. He was Bishop and Archbishop of Rochester, not New York.
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SyroMalankara
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This really needed to go to Court? So donations are covering the lawyer fees and interdiocesan squabbles? Shouldn’t Rome have some kind of internal forum to deal with this, instead of wasting the money of well-intentioned parishioners?
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ctb95
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He wished to be buried in Calvary Cemetery in New York City, according to the Court Documents I’ve seen.
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RosyAnne
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I understood that there was a Cardinal (previous to Cardinal Dolan) who made a verbal agreement with Peoria Bishop to release Sheen’s body to them in due time (to help the beatification process move forward). For some reason, as I understand it, New York was not interested in pursuing the beatification of Sheen but was willing to step aside for Peoria to do so. Probably because of the cost of doing so (it costs a tonne of money to make this happen).
So now that the $$ has been spent and the beatification process is plugging along and it’s time for the body to be in Peoria, New York has put the brakes on.
Add to the fact that Sheen’s family wants to the body in Peoria.
It’s a puzzling situation.
So now that the $$ has been spent and the beatification process is plugging along and it’s time for the body to be in Peoria, New York has put the brakes on.
Add to the fact that Sheen’s family wants to the body in Peoria.
It’s a puzzling situation.
Mary_Gail_36
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That’s odd. Calvary cemetery is not in the NY archdiocese. It’s in Queens, and that is part of the Diocese of Brooklyn.
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SyroMalankara
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Part of the problem with bureaucracy is someone like Archbishop Sheen can’t easily move forward because he was “too broad” - whatever that means. Because of the way the process is set up, the fact that this holy man was involved with the Ruthenian Eparchy of Parma, the Roman Diocese of Peoria, the Roman Archdiocese of NY and the Diocese of Brooklyn - puts him at a DISadvantage. Imagine that. Traditionally, he would have already been recognized by the people and publicly venerated; the Church soon recognizing this and putting him officially on the Liturgical calendar.
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dans0622
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This has been pretty ridiculous for a while and is only getting worse. It should be resolved by the Holy See, as far as I’m concerned. I don’t really know much of the backstory, though…maybe the Holy See has already declined to get involved.
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zz912
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Incorrect. In his will, which was completed just a few days before his death, he stated his wish to be buried in Calvary Cemetery. The claim about St. Patrick’s was based upon him verbally telling one person about this desire to be buried there and that a space had been reserved for him. Of course, if a space had been reserved for him, he would have noted it in his will.
The testimony of this person was laughed out of court by the judge presiding over the case. She found it completely unreliable and unlikely.
This whole episode is extremely sad. We shouldn’t need secular courts to resolve a Church situation.
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phil19034
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what has Cardinal Dolan said about this? From the name of the law suite, it seems that the St. Patrick’s Cathedral parish committee (Board of Directors) is the ones objecting.
Is Cardinal Dolan directly involved, or is he simply supporting the Cathedral’s board or directors?
Anyone know?
Is Cardinal Dolan directly involved, or is he simply supporting the Cathedral’s board or directors?
Anyone know?
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phil19034
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The funny thing is that the Trustees of St. Patrick’s Cathedral oversees both Calvary Cemetery and the crypt underneath St. Patrick’s
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ctb95
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Yeah, I would like to know too. It seems like everyone has been directly blaming Cardinal Dolan for this mess, although I’m not sure how involved he’s been in the situation.
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Marie5890
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And this is beyond sad, it’s a slippery slope, and scary, getting a SECULAR court, involved in a CHURCH matter.
I don’t think the family thought this thru when they turned to the secular courts.
BAD BAD precedent.
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zz912
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I fail to see how a parish committee could approve of spending tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees without the Cardinal’s approval. It would be utterly shocking to me if a parish committee could approve of spending such sums of money without the Cardinals approval.
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Oneofthewomen
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He was also the Bishop of Rochester, NY. We’d be happy to have him back, I am sure we can find a place of honor for him here.
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Marie5890
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More, from a close associate of Sheen’s. Part of his “household”
newsmax.com/Newsfront/archbishop-fulton-sheen-anniversary-death/2016/12/09/id/763188/
newsmax.com/Newsfront/archbishop-fulton-sheen-anniversary-death/2016/12/09/id/763188/
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saintjohnxxiii
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I don’t care where he’s buried but I want his beatification and canonization to proceed and that requires one of the parties to give Vatican access as currently that is being denied.
It is sad that the Vatican is more worried about seminarians having to study climate change then asserting a leadership role in getting the beatification done.
It is sad that the Vatican is more worried about seminarians having to study climate change then asserting a leadership role in getting the beatification done.
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Marie5890
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The Vatican isn’t being denied access. Peoria has suspended the Cause, which is their right, because they want his remains. The Vatican can’t move forward until Peoria decides to go forward with the Cause. The ball is completely in Peoria’s court as to when and if the Cause goes forward.
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fin
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Even more so because climate change isn’t real.
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