Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public

[estesbob]

Not all liberals. This is one liberal who believes in the classic liberal tradition that NO speech is to be restricted - political, religious, sexual, inflammatory, or otherwise. I believe that the 1st Amendment is what makes America so strong - the right to say anything without fear of any censorship or prior restraint. As much as I dislike that Westboro group, I accept their right of free speech; as much as I think pornography vulgar and demeaning to women, I’d not censor any of it (child pornography excepted). And, I think that pundits of both sides, even those I dislike, deserve to be heard.

I even defend Free Speech when Liberals imitate Fred Phelps by sayiing things like this:

The Tea Partyists hated her victory over their candidate. Does anyone see dots to be connected? Just wondering.

 

[iamrefreshed]

I’m so offended by this violence. Shouldn’t our Catholic sensibilities prevail? Will pointing a finger help? For every finger pointing, we know others point right back.

I’ve been away from you all for a while. I’ve been ill. I had a stroke. I had to type this 10 times to hopefully remove the errrors. I hope we can all have the sense to put aside our prejudices and realize what Christ asks of us.

 

[Cambridge]

I’m so offended by this violence. Shouldn’t our Catholic sensibilities prevail? Will pointing a finger help? For every finger pointing, we know others point right back.

I’ve been away from you all for a while. I’ve been ill. I had a stroke. I had to type this 10 times to hopefully remove the errrors. I hope we can all have the sense to put aside our prejudices and realize what Christ asks of us.

I recall The Pope visiting a condemned man on death row and telling him something like, if my life had been different, I could be standing where you are. It seemed as if he showed that man sympathy and I was impressed.

 

[estesbob]

I’m so offended by this violence. Shouldn’t our Catholic sensibilities prevail? Will pointing a finger help? For every finger pointing, we know others point right back.

I’ve been away from you all for a while. I’ve been ill. I had a stroke. I had to type this 10 times to hopefully remove the errrors. I hope we can all have the sense to put aside our prejudices and realize what Christ asks of us.

If you have a problem typing look into Dragon Naturally Speaking word recognition software. I use it all the time and it works really good.

 

[iamrefreshed]

If you have a problem typing look into Dragon Naturally Speaking word recognition software. I use it all the time and it works really good.

Thank yoy Bob!

 

[estesbob]

Thank yoy Bob!

You’re welcome. The more you use it the better it gets as it learns your voice and the way you speak.

 

[JHow]

…As much as I dislike that Westboro group…

I wonder if those guys can’t be restricted as to location? I mean, if the funerals are in private spaces, and they are disrupting (which they are), why can’t they be booted out? Butting into a private space where you are not wanted is trespassing in my book.

 

[EmperorNapoleon]

I wonder if those guys can’t be restricted as to location? I mean, if the funerals are in private spaces, and they are disrupting (which they are), why can’t they be booted out? Butting into a private space where you are not wanted is trespassing in my book.

I think it boils down to whether or not there is a reasonable expectation of privacy when engaging in public behavior. It’s different when you’re talking about a private facility; in which case there can be proximity restrictions.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

I wonder if those guys can’t be restricted as to location? I mean, if the funerals are in private spaces, and they are disrupting (which they are), why can’t they be booted out? Butting into a private space where you are not wanted is trespassing in my book.

Of course, they can be kept out of the funeral home and the church, any private property, but they can’t ordinarily be kept from standing out on the public street shouting their hateful messages.

 

[estesbob]

Westboro Church Cancels Picket at 9-Year-Old Arizona Shooting Victim’s Funeral

KANSAS CITY, Mo. – A controversial Kansas church has decided not protest at the funeral of a 9-year-old girl killed in Saturday’s shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz.

Shirley Phelps-Roper of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., says church members will skip Thursday’s funeral of Christina Taylor Green.
Phelps-Roper was interviewed Tuesday by a station in Toronto, Canada, and is scheduled to be on a morning talk show Saturday. She says Westboro Baptist Church decided not to picket in exchange for the airtime.

foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/12/westboro-church-cancels-picket-year-old-arizona-shooting-victims-funeral/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+foxnews%2Fpolitics+%28Internal±+Politics±+Text%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Sheriff Dupnik should recuse himself:

blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/no_wonder_sheriff_dupnik_wants_to_blame_a_politician_instead/

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Sheriff Dupnik should recuse himself:

blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/no_wonder_sheriff_dupnik_wants_to_blame_a_politician_instead/

Agree completely… he should recuse himself.

 

[terryobrien1980]

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I seem to be the only person in the entire world who has thought of the following:

Is political speech the only speech on the airwaves? Has anyone considered the possibility that some OTHER public influence, such as violent movies, violent music, TV, etc., could have influenced this person? I mean, what an arrogant bubble these politicians live in to think that THEIR conversations are the only one’s that can influence people. Movies and music have far more infuence on younger people, most of whom don’t even follow politics.

I mean, look at that guy (the shooter): Does he look like the kind of guy that follows political debate on FOX or CNN? LOL.

 

[FromTheAshes777]

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I seem to be the only person in the entire world who has thought of the following:

Is political speech the only speech on the airwaves? Has anyone considered the possibility that some OTHER public influence, such as violent movies, violent music, TV, etc., could have influenced this person? I mean, what an arrogant bubble these politicians live in to think that THEIR conversations are the only one’s that can influence people. Movies and music have far more infuence on younger people, most of whom don’t even follow politics.

I mean, look at that guy (the shooter): Does he look like the kind of guy that follows political debate on FOX or CNN? LOL.

Exactly. The argument that Sheriff Dupnik and Paul Krugman are making has no basis in reality and was cooked up by their left pandering imaginative minds. It is sad and disgusting using this event to slam people that disagree with your politics, which is exactly what both of these men have done. I only hope that after the President’s speech that they will stop the garbage, since he essentially called them out last night.

 

[Nordar]

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I seem to be the only person in the entire world who has thought of the following:

Is political speech the only speech on the airwaves? Has anyone considered the possibility that some OTHER public influence, such as violent movies, violent music, TV, etc., could have influenced this person? I mean, what an arrogant bubble these politicians live in to think that THEIR conversations are the only one’s that can influence people. Movies and music have far more infuence on younger people, most of whom don’t even follow politics.

I mean, look at that guy (the shooter): Does he look like the kind of guy that follows political debate on FOX or CNN? LOL.

According to all reports about Laughner He is most likely an untreated schizophrenic–he exhibits every classical sign of the disease. This seems to be a complete failure on the part of his schools and parents to get this kid either on medication or confined where he could not harm others. Political affiliations, marijuana use, etc. have nothing to do with this tragedy. The scary part is, there are thousands more just like him who fall through the cracks.
This had nothing to do with anything influencing him ( Movies, music, Etc: Etc ) it had everything to do with the fact that this is a very sick young man who should have gotten help. Blaming other things for his behaviour is pure nonsense.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

I would contend that the graphic novel was about anarchy vs. fascism

where as the movie (to the chagrin of Alan Moore the author of the graphic novel) was,

“a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country… It’s a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives—which is not what the comic V for Vendetta was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about England”

the creator’s own words

but anyways…chasing a rabbit a little bit there.

I really have no problem with anarchy, understood in its proper context, and not within the statist redefinition of “wild West chaos”. The Wild West wasn’t even like what statists describe it as.

 

[terryobrien1980]

Both of those are good posts.

As for last night’s “service”, I think that is the final nail on the casket of Obama’s presidency. He allowed what was supposed to be a solemn service to turn into a cheering rally. Who the heck gives speeches to cheering crowds at a memorial service? What an abomination.

 

[seekerz]

So how do you suggest this alleged explosive rhetoric be addressed? Personally i dont think there is a problem. I prefer robust debate and devisive rhetoric as i want it made crytal clear just exaclty what it is we disagree with the Left on.

I applaud you for your open admission of what you prefer. The question that remains I guess, is what does society as a whole prefer and how do we respond to guys like you?

 

[terryobrien1980]

Source: michellemalkin.com/2011/01/12/branding-the-tuscon-massacre-together-we-thrive-in-white-and-blue/

President Obama used to preach that there was no “Red America” and no “Blue America,” just one America.

But tonight at the memorial for the Tucson massacre victims, it will be a sea of blue as the White House unveils the “Together We Thrive” logo and slogan.

Yes, the Tucson massacre is being branded:

michellemalkin.com/2011/01/12/branding-the-tuscon-massacre-together-we-thrive-in-white-and-blue/

 

[seekerz]

Both of those are good posts.

As for last night’s “service”, I think that is the final nail on the casket of Obama’s presidency. He allowed what was supposed to be a solemn service to turn into a cheering rally. Who the heck gives speeches to cheering crowds at a memorial service? What an abomination.

I do think the cheering was in bad taste, personally but how does that reflect on Obama? He wasn’t the only one they were cheering for. The crowd cheered everyone and everything. Should he have refused to speak? Then you would be here criticizing him for abdicating his responsibility. Sorry, but there will be no “final nail” until people like you come up with more rational criticism and dissent. A shake-up of Congress to put the government on notice is one thing. Electing to be led by the now-I-want-it-now-I-don’t, anyhow-I’ll-throw-a-tantrum crowd, is quite another.