Shock Vid: Mother Wants the Right to Euthanize ‘Severely Disabled’ Children — And ‘90%’ of Dr. Phil’s Audience Agrees

[SwizzleStick]

I hold adherence to this decision “in the Light”, whatever that means…

I don’t know what it means either. It sounds like new age jargon to me, but I honestly have no idea what it means.

…As probably the only person here who had to deal with a severely disabled child, I reaffirm the earlier comment that euthanizing her child is NOT HER DECISION TO MAKE. The ends do not justify the means.

Yes. She has no decision to make. She does have a cross to bear, but no decision to make to end life, to take life. That is not her place. She has no right.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I’d like to think that this was a small, uneducated group that doesn’t represent the majority - but since joining CAF I realize that I (and really everyone I know) are not anywhere near as smart as older generations. The older people on here seem able to critically think, logically analyze and articulate things that I think and feel but would have no idea where to start in defense of these things. They have NO idea how much I respect their wisdom and wish I could know just one person who could think like that…I honestly get sad at the thought of the world being without them.

Your education has failed you, unfortunately. I am hardly one of the Old Wise Ones, but I think I was one of the the last generations that got a fairly decent education from public school. I graduated in 1975. There were political topics but the curriculum wasn’t saturated with them as it is now. I believe that I learned how to think and how to read, and how to write (although I seem to have a God-given talent in writing that helped a lot).

You can still learn critical thinking and analysis. Reading good books on the topics will help. Turn off the media and start reading. Read hard stuff like the early Church fathers. Have you ever read the Federalist Papers? Difficult going, but worth it - you begin to understand the true genius of the men who drafted our Constitution and formed our government. If half of the people who vote had an inkling of what a miracle that document really is…

 

[seekerz]

Me too, and I am one of the older ones!

The older people on here might simply be self-selecting. In all generations there are the thinkers and the lazy of brain. One common sentiment I see on this board is that of general deterioration of societal standards. While I agree that the public education system is in sore need of repair, I think it’s a mistake to take trends out of a broad historical context.

The disabled have always been subject to the short end of the stick and generally their lives have improved* in parallel *with the increasingly open acceptance of the concept that their lives are worth less. Human society is full of paradoxes like this. Much of what is perceived as deterioration in how life is valued is simply an increased willingness to publicly state or advocate for moral stances that society has always been plagued with.

If we go far back enough into human history we can find practices that basically discounted the lives of the severely disabled, the elderly…any group perceived as dependent/weak/unable to fend for themselves. That these attitudes should manifest at a time in history when we are most able to care for such people, is what sets these current trends apart, IMO.

If anything, the response needed on the part of those who treasure life’s true value, is increased (and very public) willingness to participate in caring for “the least of these”… along the lines of the historic contributions of the religious and the philanthropic organizations that traditionally devoted themselves to such care. Simply telling people “it’s not your decision to make”, is not going to stop the train - not in a world where morality is increasingly a matter of personal perspective. We can’t force people to care, but we can care in their stead. Increasingly, that is what we as Christians are going to have to be willing to publicly do.

 

[Tenofovir]

Oh, but secular societies are so much more humane and compassionate.

Do all these secularists ever actually listen to themselves, or, I don’t know, look at the world around them? This makes me want to pray for fire and brimstone. I’m seriously hoping Dr. Phil’s audience isn’t a valid sample of the population.

They will say they are compassionate because:

1. The disabled child is suffering, or the disabled child sees no value in its life,
2. The parent/caregiver is suffering, because they could be doing other things then taking care of their disabled children.
3. The state suffers because medical expenses are “wasted” on non productive people.

Now it is a type of compassion but it disregards first and foremost the natural right each human being has to life. It also assumes that every caregiver is suffering, that killing the child will ease the suffering and/or that the type of experience the caregiver is going through is negative and not enriching or even essentially human.

 

[JimG]

They will say they are compassionate because:

1. The disabled child is suffering, or the disabled child sees no value in its life,
2. The parent/caregiver is suffering, because they could be doing other things then taking care of their disabled children.
3. The state suffers because medical expenses are “wasted” on non productive people.

Now it is a type of compassion but it disregards first and foremost the natural right each human being has to life. It also assumes that every caregiver is suffering, that killing the child will ease the suffering and/or that the type of experience the caregiver is going through is negative and not enriching or even essentially human.

Yes. Killing is compassion. We have been going down this road for awhile.

 

[gus]

Hitler or rather his views which were appalling 60 years ago are becoming mainstream American views.
Women have been the chief target of this brainwashing.

 

[vz71]

Well, he managed to get a 90% vote.

But he really did not give the other side any time at all.

I would like to think that given any time to think it through, and with the proper information provided, this vote would be closer to 10%.

 

[Publisher]

Yes, it is a difficult situation, no doubt. But, there is no decision to make. She has no right to kill her children. Period.

Obviously there is…or we wouldn’t be having a discussion about it.

Again…her “rights” are not defined by you or your ecclesial community in this matter.

 

[SwizzleStick]

Yes, it is a difficult situation, no doubt. But, there is no decision to make. She has no right to kill her children. Period.
Publisher;9267374:

Obviously there is…or we wouldn’t be having a discussion about it.

Again…her “rights” are not defined by you or your ecclesial community in this matter.

No, I don’t think so. It is my understanding that she WANTS the right to kill her children, is fighting for that right, but she does not have the right. (It’s been a few days since I read the article and I don’t have time right now to re-read it.) Even if she manages to get away with what she wants here in this life, she still doesn’t have the right, but she’ll have to answer for that later.

"Shock Vid: Mother Wants the Right to Euthanize ‘Severely Disabled’ Children — And ‘90%’ of Dr. Phil’s Audience Agrees

Would you euthanize your disabled children, especially your adult children? One Canadian woman is fighting to do just that.

Dr. Phil recently featured Annette Corriveau, on his show. She is the mother of Janet and Jeffery, two severely disabled adults who she says if they had the ability to chose for themselves, they would “opt for suicide.” Since they can’t communicate though, she wants the right to end their lives herself."…

Source link: theblaze.com/stories/shock-vid-mother-wants-to-euthanize-severely-disabled-adult-children-and-90-of-dr-phils-audience-agrees/

 

[IneedGod]

Picking chin up off the floor!
I understand that would be a difficult cross to bear but OMG!

 

[JimG]

It used to be that a person could only be killed if convicted and sentenced to death.
And many people oppose the death penalty.

Now, of course, abortionists have the right to kill with the consent of the mother, and now this person wants the right to kill the disabled at her sole discretion.