Shooting, Explosion Reported in Paris

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Did this attack actually halt the football match - I can’t believe this. This is a real attack - the stuff of 9/11 - without the planes of course. It is paralyzing Paris.
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Path_Finder said:
France colonized North Africa and I guess Syria and Lebanon too.

So back in the 1960s and so on, I don’t think radical jihadism was much of a perceived problem.
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Fox News just said that the president was the main person they were going after.
 
jc4751 said:
Even a casual reading history over the last 1400 years or so should have illustrated some problems. What Charles Martel put a stop to in 732 was reversed and embraced in the 1960s.
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I don’t know if they knew letting in Morrocans, Algerians and so forth would cause trouble.

Yes, Jihadism has been around for 1400 years but there wasn’t much of a problem with this until the 1990s in modern time.

France’s war in Algeria is basically their Viet Nam, a very bad war; but they’ve possibly been hospitable letting some in. Again, in the 1960s, one might perceive a danger.

I don’t recall the Arab nations or Iran really warring on other nations until the relatively recent few decades. So maybe the radicalism wasn’t there before. Sure, it may have been seen some, in Palestine and elsewhere.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
Given the scope and organization it can’t be other than Islamic terrorism - from home grown sources.
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Or invited in sources. There’s been concerns from the beginning that some of the refugees are in fact ISIL agents using the crisis as a cover. The biggest problem is that it’s a no win for the west and a win-win for ISIL. Europe denies the refugees access, they have the potential to become radicalized against those that turned them away. They allow them access, ISIL agents get to slip in with the legit refugees.
 
Are the police going into the theatre???

Why are they allowing the execution of these young people???
 
Padres1969 said:
Or invited in sources. There’s been concerns from the beginning that some of the refugees are in fact ISIL agents using the crisis as a cover. The biggest problem is that it’s a no win for the west and a win-win for ISIL. Europe denies the refugees access, they have the potential to become radicalized against those that turned them away. They allow them access, ISIL agents get to slip in with the legit refugees.
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Good point - especially if the reference to Syria is true, that someone shouted that. But I think to be able to orchestrate this kind of multi-pronged attack you would have to have people in place in Paris - established there. This is not spontaneous.
 
And how many unvetted people from the Middle East (mostly young men) is Obama going to allow to come to the U.S.? Wasn’t the last count 200,000?

He vowed to “Fundamentally change America”, and I expect he will.
 
Isil celebrates

Isil supporters have been celebrating the terrorist attack on Paris using the hashtag “Paris ignites”.

An Isil supporter called al-Mouhed al-Tourkomani wrote: “Allahu Akbar…Allahu Akbar die with your rage, and explode with your defeating.”

Isil has not, at this stage, claimed responsibility for the attacks.
 
Ridgerunner said:
And how many unvetted people from the Middle East (mostly young men) is Obama going to allow to come to the U.S.? Wasn’t the last count 200,000?

He vowed to “Fundamentally change America”, and I expect he will.
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Don’t start, OK?
 
There were explosions at the soccer match, BBC reports 3 died in an explosion or explosions there: bbc.com/sport/0/football/

So, we have a string of these bombings and terrorist acts in different countries,

Kurdish rally bombed about 3 weeks ago.

Open to question but the Russian airliner went down.

Yesterday, bombing in Lebanon

And now this today.
 
This is tragic news, the scale of it continues to unfold with shocking reports.

Thoughts and prayers for all the victims and people of Paris.
 
Path_Finder said:
There were explosions at the soccer match, BBC reports 3 died in an explosion or explosions there: bbc.com/sport/0/football/

So, we have a string of these bombings and terrorist acts in different countries,

Kurdish rally bombed about 3 weeks ago.

Open to question but the Russian airliner went down.

Yesterday, bombing in Lebanon

And now this today.
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They also did a bombing in Baghdad today
 
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