Shooting, Explosion Reported in Paris

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Ridgerunner said:
Would that I could avoid it, GT. I don’t make the events, but I can’t help reacting to them in horror, in sorrow, and in telling the truth about them.
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I’m so glad you know the truth. 🤷 Let’s not make this tragedy political, for once.
 
Good_Tidings said:
I’m so glad you know the truth. 🤷 Let’s not make this tragedy political, for once.
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Yeah in France in particular this is a somewhat different issue and always has been. They have a far larger than typical in Europe Muslim population that’s been there longer than most. And they have their own issues with the very a-religious French gov’t. This may not even be a result of the refugee crisis.

And even if it is, this isn’t a cut and dry issue. As I said in an earlier post, you turn them away, you risk radicalizing good people against you in whatever place they ultimately manage to find refuge in through bitterness. If you let them in you risk letting ISIL agents or already radicalized scumbags in with the legitimate refugees. It’s a no-win for Europe.
 
Good_Tidings said:
I’m so glad you know the truth. 🤷 Let’s not make this tragedy political, for once.
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Do you think it isn’t already? What is happening in Paris is exactly political. Clausewitz, was, I believe, the one who coined the expression “War is a continuation of politics by other means…”

And so it is.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Do you think it isn’t already? What is happening in Paris is exactly political. Clausewitz, was, I believe, the one who coined the expression “War is a continuation of politics by other means…”

And so it is.
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You are absolutely correct, I respect your opinion and I don’t consider it one that thumbs its nose at Catholic or American values.
 
France has some hard questions to ask themselves and I hope they can be answered. They have fairly good security yet, this mega-attack still occurred.
 
May we remember to keep all people involved in our prayers, even those that orchestrated this act of evil.:signofcross:
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
Dozens of fatalities reported at the theater.
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100 dead at Bataclan

Police state 100 people were killed in the attack on Bataclan concert hall.

At least it is over - the police are in there and have killed I think 2 terrorists and 1 is in custody. 100 dead.
 
Fox is just now reporting about 100 dead. May God have mercy on their souls and on France.
 
FollowChrist34 said:
100 dead at Bataclan

Police state 100 people were killed in the attack on Bataclan concert hall.

At least it is over - the police are in there and have killed I think 2 terrorists and 1 is in custody. 100 dead.
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Unbelievable, not including the other 60 killed. May they all RIP. Diabolical.

Allegedly, 125 hostages were rescued from Bataclan.
 
Biggin said:
May we remember to keep all people involved in our prayers, even those that orchestrated this act of evil.:signofcross:
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One thing that impresses me about the French is that we don’t hear of any reprisals after such attacks. I don’t know if we could say the same if such an attack took place in Germany.

Edit: Sadly I may have to retract that statement. Unconfirmed reports are coming in that the refugee camp in Calais has been set ablaze in retribution. Seems the French may have been poked in the eye one too many times.

Edit again: Reports of the fire at the refugee camp have turned out to be a hoax. 🙂
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
One thing that impresses me about the French is that we don’t hear of any reprisals after such attacks. I don’t know if we could say the same if such an attack took place in Germany.
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Having no pretense to understanding French politics, but I most definitely think France will retaliate for this, at least within her capabilities. France has been doing some bombing in Syria, which does at least suggest that France will not likely remain supine in the face of this.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
One thing that impresses me about the French is that we don’t hear of any reprisals after such attacks. I don’t know if we could say the same if such an attack took place in Germany.

Edit: Sadly I may have to retract that statement. Unconfirmed reports are coming in that the refugee camp in Calais has been set ablaze in retribution. Seems the French may have been poked in the eye one too many times.
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Yeah, I thought that sounded a little optimistic. No one really knows for sure that this is over either. There are fears that gunmen are still at loose in Paris.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
One thing that impresses me about the French is that we don’t hear of any reprisals after such attacks. I don’t know if we could say the same if such an attack took place in Germany.

Edit: Sadly I may have to retract that statement. Unconfirmed reports are coming in that the refugee camp in Calais has been set ablaze in retribution. Seems the French may have been poked in the eye one too many times.
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Oops! Didn’t see your edit when I wrote my post. Not what I expected, but I’m not surprised.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Having no pretense to understanding French politics, but I most definitely think France will retaliate for this, at least within her capabilities. France has been doing some bombing in Syria, which does at least suggest that France will not likely remain supine in the face of this.
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I have no doubt that the French government will respond, but I meant reprisals conducted by civilians against the Muslim population.
 
Biggin said:
May we remember to keep all people involved in our prayers, even those that orchestrated this act of evil.:signofcross:
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Yes! Let us pray for these circumstances, the people killed, and those that did this act of evil. Our Lord told us to pray for our enemies.
 
Padres1969 said:
Yeah in France in particular this is a somewhat different issue and always has been. They have a far larger than typical in Europe Muslim population that’s been there longer than most. And they have their own issues with the very a-religious French gov’t. This may not even be a result of the refugee crisis.

And even if it is, this isn’t a cut and dry issue. As I said in an earlier post, you turn them away, you risk radicalizing good people against you in whatever place they ultimately manage to find refuge in through bitterness. If you let them in you risk letting ISIL agents or already radicalized scumbags in with the legitimate refugees. It’s a no-win for Europe.
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France has been quite concerned with the number of French citizens who are being recruited for the jihad. They are able to go back and forth because they are citizens. I would hesitate to blame the refugees before it is certain they are involved. Those people have gone through enough.
 
Just pray for them… The ones hurt and the ones involved in this terrible atrocity against human life.

Our Father who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy Kingdom Come
Thy Will be done
On earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day Our Daily Bread
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those who trespass against us
And lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil Amen

Hail Mary Full of Grace
The Lord is with thee
Blessed are thou amongst women
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus
Holy Mary Mother of God
Pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen

St Michael the Archangel
Defend us in battle
Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil
May God rebuke him
We humbly pray
and do thou O Prince of the heavenly Hosts
Cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl around the earth seeking the ruin of souls Amen

Please Saints in heaven hear our prayer

In Jesus name we pray… Amen…

Please Lord let those who do these horrible things turn their hearts to good… Amen…

Please if any of you are reading this lets pray a rosary tonight…
 
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