Shooting, Explosion Reported in Paris

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so were they all killed in the concert hall?! how many terrorists were holding the hostages?
 
so were they all killed in the concert hall?! how many terrorists were holding the hostages?
I think everything is in chaos still - maybe best to just watch TV - it may take days to sort this out. I keep hearing different numbers - at least three terrorists but that sounds a bit low.
 
This is a tragedy beyond imagination. 140 people so far, senselesly murdered. It is a massacre, the worst attack in Paris since WWII. Those poor, innocent people, my heart and prayers go out to them…

There will be a response to this from the French, I have no doubt about it.
 
Nicolas Sarkozy reacts
**Les terroristes ont déclaré la guerre à la France. Notre réponse doit exprimer une fermeté et une détermination de chaque instant.
**
 
I know that the attack on France in January was bc of the cartoon.

Why now?
 
Now up to 160 dead, they really need to go into those hostile neighborhoods and be forceful with that matter.
 
Fox News stating now, 140 reported dead.
Yeah the breakdown is at least 40 killed around the city (some are reporting at least 60 now) with over 100 executed in the concert hall (which holds 1500).
 
I know that the attack on France in January was bc of the cartoon.

Why now?
Possibly, it’s where the ISIL HQ is, in Europe, as France has had a large Muslim population for decades.

Hence, as French citizens, it would be easier to circulate and implement such an attack.

However that is a guess on my part.
 
Two things—first, there were explosions near the Stade the France but not at the stadium itself. Things that go “boom” at French football (soccer) games are not unusual, so it’s believable that no one at the match would think anything of hearing such noises during the course of play. The match was not uninterrupted, probably because the authorities wanted to keep everyone present inside the stadium while security was being beefed up outside it. Stopping the match might have caused panic that then would be difficult to control once people discovered the stadium exits were sealed (on the order of the local prefect) and no one could get out.

President Hollande was indeed at the match, which is normal for international-level sporting events. At some point in the middle of all this, he was evacuated.

Those who attended the match eventually left the stadium in single file, hands in the air, their faces individually scrutinized by law enforcement personnel before being cleared to depart.

Second, just as an FYI this
Nicolas Sarkozy reacts
**Les terroristes ont déclaré la guerre à la France. Notre réponse doit exprimer une fermeté et une détermination de chaque instant.
**
translates to “The terrorists have declared war on France. Our response must express a firmness and determination at all times.”

Utter pandemonium. My heart goes out to all affected. 😦
 
Possibly, it’s where the ISIL HQ is, in Europe, as France has had a large Muslim population for decades.

Hence, as French citizens, it would be easier to circulate and implement such an attack.

However that is a guess on my part.
I think that it’s a good guess.
 
Yeah the breakdown is at least 40 killed around the city (some are reporting at least 60 now) with over 100 executed in the concert hall (which holds 1500).
I’m sure that the number of deaths in this theatre is going to go up. Just too many people in there. One witness said the shooting went on for 15 minutes inside. This was a witness who managed to escape. So it went on even longer. There were no police there when he went outside.
 
Maybe the supercomputers of the NSA are not such a bad thing after all. We should all include Parisians in our prayer intentions tonight and in the days to come.
 
Sky News is showing buses near the theater and they are speculating that they are intended to move out survivors.

We all must pray for the people lost, their families, all the people of France, and for mercy on the whole world.
 
France has been quite concerned with the number of French citizens who are being recruited for the jihad. They are able to go back and forth because they are citizens. I would hesitate to blame the refugees before it is certain they are involved. Those people have gone through enough.
I think the refugees should be pitied all-the-more after this because, despite a difficult journey marked by grievous loss and privation, it is made clear there is no place they can go where ISIS cannot reach them.
 
I don’t know if they knew letting in Morrocans, Algerians and so forth would cause trouble.

Yes, Jihadism has been around for 1400 years but there wasn’t much of a problem with this until the 1990s in modern time.

France’s war in Algeria is basically their Viet Nam, a very bad war; but they’ve possibly been hospitable letting some in. Again, in the 1960s, one might perceive a danger.

I don’t recall the Arab nations or Iran really warring on other nations until the relatively recent few decades. So maybe the radicalism wasn’t there before. Sure, it may have been seen some, in Palestine and elsewhere.
Ever hear of French Indo China?
Their Indo China was our Vietnam:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochina_Wars said:
By 1884, the French had complete control over the country, which now formed the largest part of French Indochina. It took the Vietnamese people almost a century to expel the last colonial influence in their country.
In 1948, France tried to regain its colonial control over Vietnam
The French re-installed Bảo Đại as the head of state of Vietnam, which now comprised central and southern Vietnam. The ensuing war, between the French-controlled South and the independent Communist-allied North, is known as the First Indochina War

Every matinee news I can remember at age 7 to 9 the headline:
The War in indo China goes on with the French cannons and the orphaned children in the streets …
over oil and tin I think it was.

rex
 
May all those killed rest in peace.

May the terrorists be stopped and repent.

Lord, have mercy.
Christ, have mercy.
Lord, have mercy.
 
Isil celebrates

Isil supporters have been celebrating the terrorist attack on Paris using the hashtag “Paris ignites”.

An Isil supporter called al-Mouhed al-Tourkomani wrote: “Allahu Akbar…Allahu Akbar die with your rage, and explode with your defeating.”

Isil has not, at this stage, claimed responsibility for the attacks.
It appears to be ISIS brutality, but it might also be Al Qaeda. Taking responsibility does not necessarily mean the terrorist group actually committed the heinous act.

I heard that one member of the band that was performing was killed in the attack. Latest number of fatalities is about 120 people, and about 100 at the concert venue. Five other locations were also targeted.

Prayers for the deceased and their families and friends.
 
The Associated Press is reporting the head of Paris police saying all attackers are believed to be dead.

Le Parisien has a list of the deaths and injuries at the various attack sites around Paris, which it sources to the French authorities.

Bataclan: at least 100 dead, seven people in a critical condition, four others injured

Rue Charonne: 19 dead, 13 people in a critical condition, 10 others injured

Rue Bichat: 14 dead, 10 in a critical condition, 10 others injured

Avenue de la Republique: Four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 10 others injured

Stade de France: four dead, 11 in a critical condition, 39 others injured

Rue Beaumarchais: three people in a critical condition, four others injuries

BBC: Four men who attacked the Bataclan theatre were themselves killed when police stormed the building, including three who activated explosives belts, several sources said.
“Three of them blew themselves up and a fourth, who was also wearing a belt, was hit by police fire and blew up as he fell,” one source said.
 
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