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So people have the right to punish others on Gods (your God) behalf for non-belief.We can see how the Father deals with idolatry in the Garden of Eden, or how Jesus deals with it in the Gospels. Jesus revealed the truth to Israel, and when they rejected it, he ultimately punished them when he ascended to be seated at the right hand of the Father. He pleaded with them to accept his mercy, and when they rejected it, he punished them through the military might of the Roman Empire.
God the Father behaved in a similar way in the Garden of Eden. They had Free Will, so they had the ability to choose evil. But the ability to choose evil does not give the right to choose evil. So they were punished and banished.
What you’re talking about could be roughly compared to a religious community, which has the right to regulate the conduct of those who *choose *to be part of it. Why should people who don’t profess any faith be forced to live by such rules (aside from murder, theft etc, which don’t require a religious foundation to be held as true) How does it negatively effect your ability to practice your beliefs (it *can, *for eg hatespeech laws, but why must it)The Jews practiced punishment of idolatry throughout the Old Testament days, and the Catholics did as soon as they had a legitimate role in government, and so had the legal authority. In 1 Timothy 1:8-11, Paul advocates the same (bolds below are added).
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Mohammad clearly calls for a holy war against all infidels. So what?Paul clearly is referring to human use of the law, for he says, “if one uses it legitimately,” rather than “if God uses it,” and we know he was referring to the Old Covenant Law, because all of this is a reference to people “desiring to be teachers of the law,” (v. 7). The term “teachers of the law,” is only used in the NT to refer to teachers of the Old Covenant Law. The ceremonies and rituals of the Old Covenant Law are fulfilled and so no longer apply. The civil law is maintained, but filled now with mercy, in its application. The moral law is also maintained- it is eternal.
The law, according to Paul, should still be wielded in the case of the “godless,” the “unholy,” and people who hold to “whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God.” That doesn’t only include heresy- it pretty much defines it.
If an external thing (the influence of another) can be the deciding factor in someones choice, then we don’t really have free will.Non-believers can often be like suicide bombers. They spread the devil’s lies, even though they have good intentions, and thus they tear people away from the faith. They themselves are often going to hell (not always), and they are taking others with them. It’s like suicide-bombing hellfire rather than physical fire.