Should Catholics boycott Disney?

[Pup7]

Pup7:

They don’t understand the satire in Charlie Brown, whose characters actually mirror much of modern existence

The older I get, the funnier Lucy’s sign “Psychiatric Care 5cents” seems.

The Doctor is “Real In”.

 

[Jump4Joy]

What are examples of this? Maybe occult symbols are more difficult for the average person to recognize. A cross or any other Christian symbol is easier to recognize.

 

[ZMystiCat]

I don’t know the producers

But you originally claimed that they “subtly promote…the occult.”

Tolkien did I borrow from pagan stories. But that has really nothing to do with a visual work that uses occult symbols as occult symbols.

I’m not really sure what the difference is.

Tolkien and Lewis took oral and written stories based on pagan mythology and used some of their creatures and myths in their own written stories. While their stories may have ultimately held Christian messages, it’s not like the elves or centaurs were some overtly Christianized version of the originals.

Likewise, Gravity Falls takes a lot of popular legends and uses them in a humorous cartoon that arguably divorces them from the source material more than Tolkien or Lewis did. It’s not Christian as far as I know, but it is far from telling kids that any of this is even remotely real.

Is there a Disney show that features a bunch of Christian symbols? If there was how would you interpret that?

Sort of old movie, but there is The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

As for anything more modern, like I said, I haven’t kept up closely with anything Disney related lately. However, whenever I come across Christian themes in the music I listen to, I generally don’t assume that the band is pushing it unless I know that the writer of the song is Christian. It might be nice as a Christian, assuming that they get things right, but for the most part, they’re simply drawing inspiration from it because it intersects with their actual interests. For instance, Sabaton wasn’t supporting Catholicism with The Last Stand. It’s just that the story fit with Sabaton’s love of telling war stories.

 

[exnihilo]

But you originally claimed that they “subtly promote…the occult.”

Fair enough. But they put these symbols there for a reason. What is the reason? It isn’t redeeming them.

I’m not really sure what the difference is.

Tolkien and Lewis took oral and written stories based on pagan mythology and used some of their creatures and myths in their own written stories. While their stories may have ultimately held Christian messages, it’s not like the elves or centaurs were some overtly Christianized version of the originals.

That is the point. They ultimately had a Christian message. We know what those authors intended. We don’t know what the people who slip occult/Masonic symbols into so much of our media intend. But we can take a good guess.

Sort of old movie, but there is The Hunchback of Notre Dame.

And that’s it then, right? But those symbols are essential to the story. You aren’t going to see a cross or anything else Christian in Frozen.

 

[Jump4Joy]

I had no idea that disney was associated with the occult until I watched those youtube videos claiming it was

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Even though Disney owns Pixar now, the Pixar team still operates as an autonomous unit. Coco was an excellent movie, and is Pixar through and through. It is Disney in name only.

 

[JanetF]

Why, what have they “done” now?

 

[LeafByNiggle]

It gave a very sympathetic and respectful treatment of dementia too! After all, movie is called “Coco”, not “Miguel”.

 

[Pup7]

I had no idea that disney was associated with the occult until I watched those youtube videos claiming it was

It’s not. Urban legend. Rack it up there with Walt being cryogenically preserved (also false).

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I think it was about 40 years ago, there was a movement to boycott Proctor and Gamble because their “man in the moon” logo was supposedly a satanic symbol. It was also an urban legend. It was all nonsense, of course, but these these take on a life of their own.

 

[ZMystiCat]

We don’t know what the people who slip occult/Masonic symbols into so much of our media intend. But we can take a good guess.

And there are a lot of reasons why someone may use something like the Eye of Providence that don’t come down to support of Freemasonry. From an artistic standpoint, they can say a lot about the character, organization, or situation since a lot of these symbols are essentially easy ways of saying, “This is going to cause trouble for the hero eventually.”

Personally, I don’t really see a point in automatically reaching for the worst possible scenario. Such cynicism is probably not healthy, physically or spiritually.

And that’s it then, right?

To be fair, all you have is Gravity Falls so far.

But those symbols are essential to the story.

So you mean like Gravity Falls making reference to one of the most popular of conspiracy theories?

 

[exnihilo]

Personally, I don’t really see a point in automatically reaching for the worst possible scenario. Such cynicism is probably not healthy, physically or spiritually.

I don’t see it as the worst possible scenario. There are a lot of people, especially in Hollywood, who are into occultism. I don’t think it is cynical to be very wary of what they produce. I mean the rampant homosexuality in almost all their adult productions is to me evidence enough to the danger.

To be fair, all you have is Gravity Falls so far.

Fair enough. There are some other things I could point out about Disney. The bottom line is I know I can’t trust their productions to be safe for children.

Sure. But when you see it in mainstream media today it isn’t used in the Christian way. It isn’t used as subtle Christianity smuggled into modern media.

 

[exnihilo]

I agree with Lewis. But seeing all the gross immorality the media very clearly promotes I don’t know why one would assume that the Devil isn’t behind most of what they do.

 

[leonhardprintz]

I have a feeling that if we took our faith as seriously as we should, then we’d boycott the entire world.

I answered no to the poll though.