Should cattle and other animals used for food have rights?

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Never did I say I have a solution. All I said is that yesterday I saw a video showing some disturbing footage and I simply asked if animals should have some rights. As with other problems I have no control over, I will leave my distress it in the hands of God and pray.
 
Never did I say I have a solution. All I said is that yesterday I saw a video showing some disturbing footage and I simply asked if animals should have some rights. As with other problems I have no control over, I will leave my distress it in the hands of God and pray.
Be careful where you get the video from. PETA and similar groups have been known to use misleading footage and statistics to try to get people to accept their position. It’s possible that some of these things are actually happening regularly, but it’s also possible they actively sought out the absolutely worst instances of abuses and try to present them as the norm.
 
I viewed a disturbing film yesterday about how cattle are treated in the slaughter houses. It’s something that is intentionally hidden from the public’s eyes. I understand that there are laws forbidding the filming of the horrors that take place in slaughterhouses. I understand that the world has a large population that needs to eat, but it seemed clear to me that there are more humane ways to slaughter animals than that currently used in slaughterhouses. Such suffering! Do these animals deserve better treatment?
Animals don’t have rights. Rights only really apply to humans. That said, they should not be treated in a cruel manner.
If they’re being slaughtered, it should be quick and painless. If they’re being hunted, the same applies. Are you sure that the video you saw is not from one of those animal rights groups like PETA? They wouldn’t exactly be a neutral source.

Also, there is a certain amount of brutality involved in dealing with animals that city folk might shy away from but to those of us who live in the country it’s just the way things are.
 
Even when animal rights organisations like PETA show footage of animals being mistreated people will still think it’s not like that everywhere…
 
Even when animal rights organisations like PETA show footage of animals being mistreated people will still think it’s not like that everywhere…
Because it’s not.

Just as a matter of note. PETA and similar groups are heavily influenced by Peter Singer, an anti-catholic ethicist from Australia who believes that humans share the moral status of animals. The whole modern movement toward animal “rights” comes from his efforts to convince people of his beliefs. He is on record as saying that the Church’s view placing man at the pinnacle of creation is the main obstacle to his philosophy.

I would say that a proper approach to animals centres around “welfare” as opposed to rights.
 
Because it’s not.

Just as a matter of note. PETA and similar groups are heavily influenced by Peter Singer, an anti-catholic ethicist from Australia who believes that humans share the moral status of animals. The whole modern movement toward animal “rights” comes from his efforts to convince people of his beliefs. He is on record as saying that the Church’s view placing man at the pinnacle of creation is the main obstacle to his philosophy.

I would say that a proper approach to animals centres around “welfare” as opposed to rights.
PETA isn’t the only animal rights organisation that gathers evidence regarding the welfare of animals used for food, clothes, entertainment.

Sure, everyone who doesn’t agree with the bible is anti catholic…
 
Even when animal rights organisations like PETA show footage of animals being mistreated people will still think it’s not like that everywhere…
Multiple people on here told you, from first hand experience, that it is not! Have YOU ever even been to a slaughterhouse?
Sure, everyone who doesn’t agree with the bible is anti catholic…
Well, Peter Singer goes a little further than not agreeing with the Bible. He supports euthanasia, abortion, and infanticide.
 
Multiple people on here told you, from first hand experience, that it is not! Have YOU ever even been to a slaughterhouse?

Well, Peter Singer goes a little further than not agreeing with the Bible. He supports euthanasia, abortion, and infanticide.
I don’t need to go into a slaughterhouse to know what goes on inside them, I’ve seen what is described as ‘humane’ ways of slaughtering and the abuse that does go on inside these ‘houses’
One does not need to see things to know that they are wrong. IE abortion.

The thread is about animals, not someones personal beliefs.
 
When I asked if these animals should have rights, I’m simply suggesting more humane treatment in the slaughterhouses.

I eat kosher meats and I believe the animals need to be treated much more humanely according to biblical law.
 
When I asked if these animals should have rights, I’m simply suggesting more humane treatment in the slaughterhouses.

I eat kosher meats and I believe the animals need to be treated much more humanely according to biblical law.
You might need to do a little more research… Kosher slaughter is only allowed because of a religious exemption to the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act.
 
When I asked if these animals should have rights, I’m simply suggesting more humane treatment in the slaughterhouses.

I eat kosher meats and I believe the animals need to be treated much more humanely according to biblical law.
Can you give an example if the “rights” you want them to have, keeping in mind you wish to harvest them at a young age for meat…
 
Can you give an example if the “rights” you want them to have, keeping in mind you wish to harvest them at a young age for meat…
The right to a quick death? The right to be transported in conditions meeting appropriate standards re: temperature, air and water supply, etc. ?
 
The right to a quick death? The right to be transported in conditions meeting appropriate standards re: temperature, air and water supply, etc. ?
Again, I would not classify those as rights of animals but rather responsibilities of humans. To obtain a right one has to have an obligation.
So let’s rephrase it as if humans wish to have the right to eat or use an animal, then they have the obligation to do so with dignity and respect for God’s creation.
 
Again, I would not classify those as rights of animals but rather responsibilities of humans. To obtain a right one has to have an obligation.
So let’s rephrase it as if humans wish to have the right to eat or use an animal, then they have the obligation to do so with dignity and respect for God’s creation.
Indeed.
 
I feel that us people growing in old age with disease and pain and suffering are like cattle being taken to a slaughterhouse to die! Much apprehension on what’s going to happen to us next. I somehow feel that feeling empathy towards the cattle, along with sincere prayer, will lessen our own apprehension in growing old. Apathy is foolishness!
 
I can’t help but to laugh at a thought that came into my mind … A gazelle that’s being chased by a lion in the open field, screams out “I have RIGHTS!”

Though I digress, I don’t think animals should have rights. I agree that it’s a travesty on how inhumanly animals are treated for consumption. Though it’s not surprising since it would seem to be a reflection and a by-product of our consumerist society.

Far more needs to be done to ensure animals are treated humanely. We need more awareness and education, even on issues of hormone use on animals.
 
You might need to do a little more research… Kosher slaughter is only allowed because of a religious exemption to the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act.
I would argue that kosher and ha’lal slaughter methods are more humane than some modern methods (bolt, electrocution etc.)

Slitting the throat of any animal, if done right, would cause minimal pain as the animal would start to bleed out and be unconscious in seconds.

I’ll be honest, I’m not that concerned with campaigning for animal welfare. Yes, animals should be treated well, but there are a long list of more worthy things that we need to devote out time to over this issue.

In Ireland it’s a non-issue anyway. Farmers here will naturally take care of their animals as they are their livelihood. But farmers will also shoot foxes on their land, cull wild animals or sick cattle, or break a chicken’s neck to have meat for dinner. That’s not a problem in my opinion. It’s just part of country life.
 
I think others already doing a much better job than I could of explaining that we certainly do have a responsibility to properly treat animals, both for their sakes and our own.

I would caution you to take those videos with a very large grain of salt. The organizations who put those out have an agenda. Much of what you saw was probably 1. An isolated incident at one location or 2. Selective filming misrepresenting an incident. Or could even be filmed in a different country. The United States has high standards for animal welfare in its slaughter facilities. I have been to several, and I saw no evidence of abuse. There are no large scale “horrors” being hidden from the public.
That is not true. Slaughterhouses cause huge suffering to animals. . by their very nature and intent.
 
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