Should ex-Mormons keep their temple oaths?

[TheosisM]

In my opinion, the Catechism of the Catholic Church reflects post–conciliar Catholicism, the spirit of which seemingly rejects the triumphalism that was often characteristic of the Catholic Church prior to Vatican II, but which still occasionally surfaces as evidenced by the fact that some Catholics openly declare that Latter–day Saints aren’t Christians. I had been surmising that the spirit of Vatican II might have been directed toward the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter–day Saints in the same way that it has been directed toward Islam. Paragraph 841 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

So it occurred to me that if the Catholic Church saw fit to portray Muslims in a positive light in the Catechism of the Catholic Church perhaps Latter–day Saints might have gotten a good write–up, also, especially considering that Muslims completely reject Jesus Christ and Latter–day Saints include Him in their nomenclature.

Still, apparently I was much mistaken. Thanks for your help, though.

Appreciatively,
Mick

If the Mormons should have been mentioned, then why not the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Christadelphians, the Christian Scientists,and all the other groups that have sprung up throughout history.? What about the sedevacantists? I believe that the Catechism was using Muslims as an example (a 1 billion member example) of how non-Catholics can be saved as well. Of course, if they are, it is through the blood of Christ.

So, the Catholic Church would see Mormons in the same way that we see Muslims. Mormons can be saved as well. They don’t have to be mentioned by name for this to apply (otherwise every other church and religion, especially those larger than Mormonism, would have to be mentioned as well, using this logic). Whether or not the Church sees Mormonism as Christian doesn’t really mean that it is not possible for them to be saved through Jesus Christ.

And of course we have always believed that the fullness of Truth is found only in the Catholic Church.

Hope that helps.

 

[SSTeacher]

Whether or not the Church sees Mormonism as Christian doesn’t really mean that it is not possible for them to be saved through Jesus Christ.

I was interested in whether or not the Catholic Church formally views members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter–day Saints as Christians only because individual Catholics sometimes suggest that Latter–day Saints are not Christians. As might be expected, some Latter–day Saints are offended by such an assertion in the same way that Catholics are offended by it when Christian Evangelicals and Fundamentalists affirm that Catholics are not Christians. The question of salvation didn’t enter into my thinking. I was simply trying to make certain for future reference that when Catholics make what they regard as a snide remark, when it’s directed at them, was not formally endorsed by the Catholic Church. I think I have my answer now but unfortunately in the process of obtaining it I’ve pretty much derailed the thread and so I hope everybody, especially the Original Poster, will forgive me.

Apologetically,
Mick

 

[Anna_Scott]

Hey Anna,

Peace be with you. I know you’re much more knowledgeable in this area than I am. I’ve only come onto this thread because I’ve recently noticed what seems to me to be rather more “Mormon bashing” than is usual going on around me.

I won’t disagree. But I’d add that Catholicism, Orthodoxy and Protestantism are not in line with each other, either. So I’m wondering where that line actually is.

Musingly,
Mick

Mick:

I agree that Caholicism, Orthodoxy, and Protestantism are not in line with each other on every doctrine and belief in Christianity.

However, as far as I know, none of these three Christian religions believe that Adam is God–an exalted man, or that God was not from eternity, or that eternal life is to know God, learn how to be Gods–the same as all the Gods have done before you—As Joseph Smith taught.

Journal of Discourses (JD) 6:3-4, Founder and 1st Mormon Prophet, Joseph Smith, April 6, 1844:

“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret.”

“I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the vail, so that you may see.”

"Here, then, is eternal life-to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all the Gods have done before you, - namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one, - from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead. . "

According to Brigham Young:

* Eve was only one of Adam's wives
* Adam helped to make and organize the world
* The earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael
* Adam is "MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS
* Adam is FATHER and GOD
* Brigham Young claimed that Adam is God, and he heard this from Joseph Smith
* Adam is the man who stands at the gate and holds the keys of everlasting life and salvation
* Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost

JD Volume 1:50-51, 2nd Mormon Prophet, Brighan Young, April 9, 1852:

"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken–HE is our FATHER and our GOD, and the only God with whom WE have to do. . . .

When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family; and when he took a tabernacle, it was begotten by his Father in heaven, after the same manner as the tabernacles of Cain, Abel, and the rest of the sons and daughters of Adam and Eve; from the fruits of the earth, the first earthly tabernacles were originated by the Father, and so on in succession. . .

. . .It is true that the earth was organized by three distinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in all heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Deity, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

. . .What a learned idea! Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation.

. . .Now remember from this time forth, and forever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.

. . .Treasure up these things in your hearts. In the Bible, you have read the things I have told you to-night; but you have not known what you did read. I have told you no more than you are conversant with; but what do the people in Christendom, with the Bible in their hands, know about this subject? Comparatively nothing."

The Desert News, Discourse, By President Brigham Young, Delivered in the new Tabernacle, Salt Lake City, Sunday Afternoon, June 8th, 1873:

"How much unbelief exists in the minds of the Latter-day Saints in regard to one particular doctrine which I revealed to them, and which God revealed to me—namely that Adam is our Father and God—I do not know, I do not inquire, I care nothing about it. Our Father Adam helped to make this earth, it was created expressly for him, and after it was made he and his companions came here. He brought one of his wives with him, and she was called Eve, because she was the first woman upon the earth.

Our Father Adam is the man who stands at the gate and holds the keys of everlasting life and salvation to all his children who have or who ever will come upon the earth. I have been found fault with by the ministers of religion because I have said that they were ignorant. But I could not find any man on the earth who could tell me this, although it is one of the simplest things in the world, until I met and talked with Joseph Smith." (© THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH | J. Willard Marriott Library 295 S 1500 E SLC, UT 84112-0860)

LDS Journal of Discourses it is online at journalofdiscourses.org/volume-01/.

All quotes are from Mormon (LDS) sources.

Anna

 

[Anna_Scott]

Mick:

Consider the Mormon beliefs about God and Adam as noted in my Post #63,

and add the belief that God the Father and the Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife;

and the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father,

and God gave her to Joseph to be his wife while in the mortal state;

and the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist;

and the LDS Church performs proxy baptisms and proxy marriages on the deceased–including large numbers of Jews who died in the Holocaust, and even Catholics Priests, as well as many other religions.

There are two Threads going now on the Mormon Proxy Baptism issue:

“Should the LDS baptize by proxy non-Mormons?”
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=389235&page=4

"LDS Baptizes and Seals St. Damien to a “wife” "
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=387080

Yes, the LDS Church did proxy temple work for St. Damien-he was baptized and given a wife for all eternity. In life, he was a devout Catholic, who took a vow of celibacy.

There are many serious differences and this can cause some heated discussions.

I do not believe in “bashing” anyone on the forum. I do believe in bringing truth to light.

Anna

 

[Anna_Scott]

I was interested in whether or not the Catholic Church formally views members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter–day Saints as Christians only because individual Catholics sometimes suggest that Latter–day Saints are not Christians. As might be expected, some Latter–day Saints are offended by such an assertion in the same way that Catholics are offended by it when Christian Evangelicals and Fundamentalists affirm that Catholics are not Christians. The question of salvation didn’t enter into my thinking. I was simply trying to make certain for future reference that when Catholics make what they regard as a snide remark, when it’s directed at them, was not formally endorsed by the Catholic Church. I think I have my answer now but unfortunately in the process of obtaining it I’ve pretty much derailed the thread and so I hope everybody, especially the Original Poster, will forgive me.

Apologetically,
Mick

Mick:

The following link contains an interesting article regarding the Vatican directing bishops to keep parish records from Mormons. It also touches on some key differences between Mormonism and Catholicism:

catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802443.htm
VATICAN-MORMONS May-2-2008 (1,010 words) xxxn
Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons

Mick, you have voiced concern about taking this thread off topic. Yet, it is difficult to discuss whether or not temple oaths should be kept, unless you know what Mormonism really is.

Hope this helps,
Anna

 

[Jerusha]

Some individual Mormons are Christian. Some people who call themselves Catholic are not Christian. God is the only judge. However, it is safe to say that, examining Mormon doctrines, Mormonism in itself is not Christian, because it is just too far out in its divergence from standard Christianity. It is very difficult for the individual Mormon to be Christian.

OTOH, I am enjoying reading books in which the Dali Lama contributed. Lots of ideas that are compatible with Christianity there. He wrote that he learned a lot form Thomas Merton.

 

[Catholic20064]

Some individual Mormons are Christian. Some people who call themselves Catholic are not Christian. God is the only judge. However, it is safe to say that, examining Mormon doctrines, Mormonism in itself is not Christian, because it is just too far out in its divergence from standard Christianity. It is very difficult for the individual Mormon to be Christian.

OTOH, I am enjoying reading books in which the Dali Lama contributed. Lots of ideas that are compatible with Christianity there. He wrote that he learned a lot form Thomas Merton.

I accepted the Trinity a long time before I left Mormonism. I don’t know how long a Trinitarian can stay Mormon.

 

[xixxvmcm85]

I accepted the Trinity a long time before I left Mormonism. I don’t know how long a Trinitarian can stay Mormon.

Same here!!!

I remember it took a feat of mental gymnastics to justify my staying a member of the LDS Church as a trinitarian while simultaneously keeping my beliefs secret. I remember thinking that the LDS Church had the “basic framework” for the trinity there (i.e. the verbiage, and the persons involved) but the formulation was wrong. I leaned on my (then) belief in a modern day prophet who can come and rebuke the teachings of former prophets. I thought “don’t worry about it, some day a prophet will come and fix this teaching, one who realizes that the Joseph Smith first vision doesn’t necessarily have to contradict the trinity”.

Anyway, sorry for the derail. I’m just enthusiastically surprised that I wasn’t the only weirdo who thought like this as a Mormon!

 

[dianaiad]

To SSTeacher,

We were excommunicated because we told the Bishop of the Ward we were in that we no longer believed in the Mormon teachings, we would no longer attend meetings, and that we were seriously contemplating a commitment to another church. We weren’t investigating the Catholic Church at that time but we could no longer consider ourselves Mormons. So, it wasn’t an action we disagreed with at the time, it was an end to a long and painful struggle.

With all due respect, I’ll bet there was more to it than that.

…and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.

 

[benidict]

With all due respect, I’ll bet there was more to it than that.

…and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.

hi dianaiad. you are right. there is always more to it than that. coming out of my own background there was a whole lot more than just disagreement with doctrine etc. i would have completly abandond Christianity all together if not for the Catholic Church. it was a long painful struggle to get to where i am today. i was very anti Catholic in my views as a protestant. had some very bad things happen along my protestant journey that made me question the new testament and the way i had been taught to see it. such as predestination and the like. could not fathom, why if predestination were true did some horrible things happen that did not make sense for a true believer in Christ. if the new testament were true. how come i saw others that were so rock solid, slide. again these were coming from what i had been taught from a sola scriptural point of view. could not correlate the two. if not for some miraculous occurences i would never have in my wildest imaginations even thought of the Catholic Church. cannot say too much because it is too personal. but yes you are 100% correct. there is always much more to things that meet the eye. Love in Christ

 

[Anna_Scott]

To SSTeacher,

We were excommunicated because we told the Bishop of the Ward we were in that we no longer believed in the Mormon teachings, we would no longer attend meetings, and that we were seriously contemplating a commitment to another church. We weren’t investigating the Catholic Church at that time but we could no longer consider ourselves Mormons. So, it wasn’t an action we disagreed with at the time, it was an end to a long and painful struggle.

Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Appreciatively,
Mick

**With all due respect, I’ll bet there was more to it than that. **

…and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.

Dianaiad,

According to your own words, if you are leaving the Mormon Church, you will be excommunicated. So, according to you, there doesn’t have to be anything more to it.

. . . Whether the church kicks you out or you decide to leave, it results in the same thing; you become an ‘ex’ communicant.

Excommunication is not a legal matter, Anna. The fact is, if you resigned from the church, then you are excommunicant. As in; you were a member and now you are not. As well, if someone has broken the rules to the extent that he or she would have been subject to church discipline,** then resigning doesn’t legally require that this discipline NOT be taken.

In other words, that same freedom of religion you are talking about also means that the church can say “resign if you wish, but we are also going to ‘fire’ you**.” More or less. there is no law that says a church MUST accept a resignation instead of dealing with the situation through disciplinary action, y’know.

Dianaiad,

The law does not allow “excommunication” or any other action against a person who has formerly resigned from a religion/church.

Summary of 2 court cases:

dailykos.com/story/2008/10/14/11624/597/670/629888
Emphasis is mine.

LEGAL PRECEDENTS

 

[benidict]

Same here!!!

I remember it took a feat of mental gymnastics to justify my staying a member of the LDS Church as a trinitarian while simultaneously keeping my beliefs secret. I remember thinking that the LDS Church had the “basic framework” for the trinity there (i.e. the verbiage, and the persons involved) but the formulation was wrong. I leaned on my (then) belief in a modern day prophet who can come and rebuke the teachings of former prophets. I thought “don’t worry about it, some day a prophet will come and fix this teaching, one who realizes that the Joseph Smith first vision doesn’t necessarily have to contradict the trinity”.

Anyway, sorry for the derail. I’m just enthusiastically surprised that I wasn’t the only weirdo who thought like this as a Mormon!

hi, do you think this happens more often than not in the mormon church? from what ive heard, more mormons read their bibles than the book of mormon. could it be there are alot of mormons in the closet in reguards to these beliefs? such as the trinity etc? thx God bless you and yours.

 

[DorianGregorian]

A Christian’s word should be their bond…their word was given freely.

Mormons are not Christians, they are not Baptized.

 

[Anna_Scott]

With all due respect, I’ll bet there was more to it than that.

…and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.

hi dianaiad. you are right. there is always more to it than that. coming out of my own background there was a whole lot more than just disagreement with doctrine etc. i would have completly abandond Christianity all together if not for the Catholic Church. it was a long painful struggle to get to where i am today.

i was very anti Catholic in my views as a protestant. had some very bad things happen along my protestant journey that made me question the new testament and the way i had been taught to see it. such as predestination and the like. could not fathom, why if predestination were true did some horrible things happen that did not make sense for a true believer in Christ.

if the new testament were true. how come i saw others that were so rock solid, slide. again these were coming from what i had been taught from a sola scriptural point of view. could not correlate the two. if not for some miraculous occurences i would never have in my wildest imaginations even thought of the Catholic Church. cannot say too much because it is too personal. but yes you are 100% correct. there is always much more to things that meet the eye. Love in Christ

benidict,

I think dianaiad was referring to being “excommunicated”–since she said. . .“bet there was more to it than that. …and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.”

benidict,

Sounds like you have been on quite a journey. I commend your courage.

I am a Protestant questioning Protestantism; and have already abandoned many Protestant doctrines. My story is long and complicated. Sometimes, I am really in utter despair.

I am glad you have found your place,
Anna

 

[benidict]

benidict,

I think dianaiad was referring to being “excommunicated”–since she said. . .“bet there was more to it than that. …and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.”

benidict,

Sounds like you have been on quite a journey. I commend your courage.

I am a Protestant questioning Protestantism; and have already abandoned many Protestant doctrines. My story is long and complicated. Sometimes, I am really in utter despair.

I am glad you have found your place,
Anna

i completely understand where you are coming from anna, but promise me one thing. you must not despair! ever! despair is a tool the devil uses to destroy us. part of my story has to do with despair. not mine but a true brother in the Lord. who loved Jesus with all his heart. but because of some things he shared only with me, that he could not correlat with his spirituallity. he despaired. he took his life. completly shatterd my faith in everything i had been taught. actually left christianity for a few years. started studying our roots in judaism. completly abandoned the new testament. figured if Christianity was not true, if someone who was " born again" could do this. then i needed to get back to our roots. the common denominator if you will. but i also prayed that if the new testament was true. if Jesus was God, then send a Jewish person who had converted to prove it to me. gentile teaching as far as i was concerned had failed. not only in this area but in other areas of my life. such as victory over sin. etc. funny how things work out. fueling my truck in st. louis, when i was approached by a man who wanted to know about the star of david tattood on my arm and the hebrew on my wrist. turned out he was a jewish christian. who also had 3 years of seminary training in the lutheran church. you know where im going with this. He brought me back to the foot of the cross. interesting to note tho, he was already looking at the Catholic Church. i kinda gave him grief on this. until i had a very vivid dream. my friend who had taken his life appeared to me, whole, perfect and healed in every way. he told me to follow. he led me past a statue of the blessed mother. a crucifix
and an altar. he told me this was the way i was to walk so i could be where he is at. he opened a door, and i caught a glimpse of paradise. this is just one incident that happened. some were not so positive especially the closer i got to actually attending mass. the devil hates the light. when i finally did tho. everything became clear. the tatoos i have on my wrist are hebrew for the name of God. yhwh. the identical letters in exactly the same color were above the altar. the star of david i have on me was placed in a design on the floor surrounding the ark of the covenant. where the host is kept. coincidence? i dont think so. i am going to pray for you that you never despair. keep your chin up. someone will come along soon to assist you im sure of it.
p.s. its a painful process but it will bear much fruit. i promise:thumbsup:

 

[SSTeacher]

Mormons are not Christians, they are not Baptized.

But surely that’s a valid argument only if one’s checklist of “necessary requirements that eventually result in somebody being tagged as a Christian” includes being baptized?

Cordially,
Mick

 

[Anna_Scott]

i completely understand where you are coming from anna, but promise me one thing. you must not despair! ever! despair is a tool the devil uses to destroy us. part of my story has to do with despair. not mine but a true brother in the Lord. who loved Jesus with all his heart. but because of some things he shared only with me, that he could not correlat with his spirituallity. he despaired. he took his life. completly shatterd my faith in everything i had been taught. actually left christianity for a few years. started studying our roots in judaism. completly abandoned the new testament. figured if Christianity was not true, if someone who was " born again" could do this. then i needed to get back to our roots. the common denominator if you will. but i also prayed that if the new testament was true. if Jesus was God, then send a Jewish person who had converted to prove it to me. gentile teaching as far as i was concerned had failed. not only in this area but in other areas of my life. such as victory over sin. etc. funny how things work out. fueling my truck in st. louis, when i was approached by a man who wanted to know about the star of david tattood on my arm and the hebrew on my wrist. turned out he was a jewish christian. who also had 3 years of seminary training in the lutheran church. you know where im going with this. He brought me back to the foot of the cross. interesting to note tho, he was already looking at the Catholic Church. i kinda gave him grief on this. until i had a very vivid dream. my friend who had taken his life appeared to me, whole, perfect and healed in every way. he told me to follow. he led me past a statue of the blessed mother. a crucifix
and an altar. he told me this was the way i was to walk so i could be where he is at. he opened a door, and i caught a glimpse of paradise. this is just one incident that happened. some were not so positive especially the closer i got to actually attending mass. the devil hates the light. when i finally did tho. everything became clear. the tatoos i have on my wrist are hebrew for the name of God. yhwh. the identical letters in exactly the same color were above the altar. the star of david i have on me was placed in a design on the floor surrounding the ark of the covenant. where the host is kept. coincidence? i dont think so. i am going to pray for you that you never despair. keep your chin up. someone will come along soon to assist you im sure of it.
p.s. its a painful process but it will bear much fruit. i promise:thumbsup:

benidict:

Just before reading your post, I received a very kind PM from SS Teacher about my statement of “despair.” I really didn’t think anyone had noticed. Usually, the debates move very quickly, and the topic is the main focus.

So, I thank God, that he sent two people to let me know I am not alone.

I still have tears in my eyes from reading your story. Thank you for sharing such a personal experience. I cannot imagine how difficult things must have been for you. To lose a friend in such a way, would leave a wound upon the heart, that only God can heal.

What a miracle it was for God to send a Jewish Christian to help you find your way.

And the dream of your friend–surely he is at peace, surely God had mercy upon him. I have wondered about the significance of dreams for a long time.

I think this was a special kind of dream–a gift from God to let you know your friend is well and safe and whole.

And the tattoos–that is really quite amazing.

I think this is a story that needs to be told; because there are people who need to hear.

Thank you so much for allowing me to “hear” your story.

Anna

 

[benidict]

benidict:

Just before reading your post, I received a very kind PM from SS Teacher about my statement of “despair.” I really didn’t think anyone had noticed. Usually, the debates move very quickly, and the topic is the main focus.

So, I thank God, that he sent two people to let me know I am not alone.

I still have tears in my eyes from reading your story. Thank you for sharing such a personal experience. I cannot imagine how difficult things must have been for you. To lose a friend in such a way, would leave a wound upon the heart, that only God can heal.

What a miracle it was for God to send a Jewish Christian to help you find your way.

And the dream of your friend–surely he is at peace, surely God had mercy upon him. I have wondered about the significance of dreams for a long time.

I think this was a special kind of dream–a gift from God to let you know your friend is well and safe and whole.

And the tattoos–that is really quite amazing.

I think this is a story that needs to be told; because there are people who need to hear.

Thank you so much for allowing me to “hear” your story.

Anna

happy it has helped anna. you have stated the same thing my priest has stated. and it was a special kind of dream. not meant to convince anyone. the only one bound to it is me. and yes he is at peace. and no, you are not alone. i am very glad if you have received a measure of peace from this. and never to give up. you having 2 responses by 2 people goes to show, God can answere prayer even before we ask. and he will provide answeres. we are all kind of a family on this forum. reguarless of our faith tradition. God bless everyone here. lets not forget in the heat of our discussions we are all searching for the ultimate truth and to remember the apostle john when he said " love one another.":grouphug:

 

[PaulDupre]

With all due respect, I’ll bet there was more to it than that.

…and no, I am NOT intimating that you were in any way guilty of some egregious moral failing. I just think…there was more to it than that.

Like what, for instance? You must have had something in mind when you wrote that. Be more specific, please.

Generally, when a Mormon leaves the church because he no longer believes in LDS doctrine and no longer believes that [fill in the blank] is a prophet, the members do spread rumors that he is guilty of some egregious moral failing. That is SOP in the Mormon church, and I’ve seen it done many times. They did exactly that to me and my wife when we resigned. They accused us far and wide of several horrible sins, none of which we were guilty of. But no matter, it was faith promoting for them to spread those cruel lies about us, and so they did it with gusto and were all smug and satisfied with themselves.

 

[vickimonica]

I’m inclined to the view that Latter–day Saints are Christians. I know next to nothing about the doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter–day Saints but it’s hard not to notice that they’ve seen fit to include the name of Jesus Christ in their formal title so that would suggest that they seek to identify with Him, at the very least. But I suppose I could be wrong. I guess it depends upon how one defines and understands the word, “Christian.”

Do all Latter–day Saints consider themselves to be Christians or do some prefer not to be addressed as such as has been suggested?

As far as I know the Catholic Church hasn’t formally declared that Latter–day Saints are not Christians. Am I correct in thinking this?

Inquiringly,
Mick