Should good Catholics live the Amish Lifestyle?

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People guess that I’m Catholic before I even tell them…when I’m not even wearing religious medals or w/e for them to see…I don’t know what it is…but I do believe you can guess…It’s like Catholic-radar or something…
Exactly… it really is hard to explain, but there is something that can pick you out as a Catholic or other kind of denomination, actually, and usually get it right. Sometimes, when I guess wrong that they are Catholic it is because the person used to be Catholic and then converted to another denomination or became agnostic/atheist etc. Their Catholicism still permeates within how they do things and say things.
 
Now, I defy you to identify a Catholic from anyone else, either by word, deed, or habit. Maybe an occasional holy person here and there. Not the majority, that’s for sure.
Anytime you see someone with 4+ kids hanging on them, I would bet you dollars to donuts they are catholic. So I usually just ask someone how many kids they have to know if they are faithfull catholics. It is sort of the secret handshake for the club. 👍
 
Anytime you see someone with 4+ kids hanging on them, I would bet you dollars to donuts they are catholic. So I usually just ask someone how many kids they have to know if they are faithfull catholics. It is sort of the secret handshake for the club. 👍
That’s not a real good way to find out if someone is a “faithful” Catholic. I know plenty of very faithful Catholics who were only blessed with two children even when open to, and tried for, many more. Being faithful to the faith doesn’t mean you are going to end up with 10 kids:shrug:
 
That’s not a real good way to find out if someone is a “faithful” Catholic. I know plenty of very faithful Catholics who were only blessed with two children even when open to, and tried for, many more. Being faithful to the faith doesn’t mean you are going to end up with 10 kids:shrug:
Very true…I know a Catholic lady who adheres to all the teachings of the Church but was unable to bear any children of her own (had conceived but miscarried) so she adopted a child. I also have a dear friend whose parents wanted many kids, but also miscarried…and her 'rents get lots of rude questions as to why there’s an age gap between my friend and her younger sister…

As for the “occasional holy person”, well, that’s what you’re supposed to identify by faithfulness…holiness…Not by clothing or anything, but by actions…by their soul…so it always, always takes getting to know someone…

At the very least, people can tell just by looking at me that I’m somewhat of a goody-two-shoes, no matter what I’m wearing…I guess it’s just the vibe you give off…you can tell if someone’s approachable or not, if they’re a good person or not, you can actually read a lot about a person just by observation…Likewise with holiness…you can tell when someone is in love with Jesus…

I believe that’s why the Church does not have specific rules on what to wear, what to eat, where to live, how to arrange our families (within the teachings on marriage, of course), what careers to have…It’s more important that, whatever your state of life, you work hard to be kind, resist temptation, give to the poor, be chaste, etc…because it really is obvious in your soul if you are doing these things…people notice…also because externals don’t matter…if you find it helps you practice these virtues, awesome…but it is not necessary.
 
Anytime you see someone with 4+ kids hanging on them, I would bet you dollars to donuts they are catholic. So I usually just ask someone how many kids they have to know if they are faithfull catholics. It is sort of the secret handshake for
the club. 👍
It’s true that you can probably tell they are Catholic because of the number of kids, but you can’t always just assume they are all* faithful* Catholics. I’ve known Catholic families with lots of kids where many of the children ended up not being too good of people or where the father or mother physically beat the children, etc. My husband and I were trying for a long time to conceive. This will be our first after almost 6 years of marriage. It would be very unfair to judge how faithful a Catholic is by the number of children, because we really don’t know the situation.
 
As for the “occasional holy person”, well, that’s what you’re supposed to identify by faithfulness…holiness…Not by clothing or anything, but by actions…by their soul…so it always, always takes getting to know someone…

At the very least, people can tell just by looking at me that I’m somewhat of a goody-two-shoes, no matter what I’m wearing…I guess it’s just the vibe you give off…you can tell if someone’s approachable or not, if they’re a good person or not, you can actually read a lot about a person just by observation…Likewise with holiness…you can tell when someone is in love with Jesus…

I believe that’s why the Church does not have specific rules on what to wear, what to eat, where to live, how to arrange our families (within the teachings on marriage, of course), what careers to have…It’s more important that, whatever your state of life, you work hard to be kind, resist temptation, give to the poor, be chaste, etc…because it really is obvious in your soul if you are doing these things…people notice…also because externals don’t matter…if you find it helps you practice these virtues, awesome…but it is not necessary.
Exactly… a person’s actions and words in holiness and goodness far out-weigh their clothing and deportment. That’s not to say I’d be against anyone wanting to show their Catholicism by certain clothing and such. Some people need that and are called to that, and I think that is great. I still admire some of the things that the Amish do and I can see how one could want to take that into their own lives in order to live a more simple life. But for me, adopting a certain way of dress completely different from the rest of the world (unless I’m part of a religious community), giving up dancing, singing or anything that might be construed as bad is not something the Church calls everyone to do.

But I’ve learned through my own life of always being on the outs because of my interracial background and just coming from a family who always marched to a beat of a different drummer, that outer appearance don’t matter a bit at all. It’s how people act. We’ve experienced outwardly pious, religious people who appeared to walk the walk by their dress, very conservative and stern about their faith, but when it came to actually treat others who were different from them with love and compassion, that went all out the door.

To me, you can tell a good and holy person and even if the person is Catholic just by the actions and nothing more. Other signs may help, but their words and actions are all one needs.
 
Anytime you see someone with 4+ kids hanging on them, I would bet you dollars to donuts they are catholic. So I usually just ask someone how many kids they have to know if they are faithfull catholics. It is sort of the secret handshake for the club. 👍
That isn’t exactly true. I often see Orthodox Jews with many children. I have friends that are Born again Christians who have five. I lived across the street for a while from a family with 8 kids. They weren’t particularly religious at all.

My paternal grandmother used to say the rosary daily, went to confession once a month until she died (at 103) fasted for lent also until she died. She only had one baby. 🤷
 
No reason I can see to lose our Catholic faith while living a simpler, more plain life.

“Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without.” –New England proverb

Downshifting…
choosingvoluntarysimplicity.com/downshifting-to-a-simpler-life/
Eat as local as you can, find a co-op or public market…
oklahomafood.coop/shop/category_list_products.php?category_id=47&subcategory_id=268
Read about how others are doing it while not going to the extreme of moving to Ohio or Pennsylvania…
oldarchive.godspy.com/reviews/The-Simple-Life-Redux-An-Interview-with-Eric-Brende-by-John-Zmirak.cfm.html

I am working on these and have assuredly not gotten where I want to be yet. But I am in the “slow movement” towards these things.
 
I’d just like to add in my $0.02 about this discussion.

First off, I understand the point that context and culture has much to do with attire. Arguing that it’s acceptable to walk down Pennslvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. topless because a devout Christian woman in the jungles of Africa does would be absurd, right? It’s likewise absurd to imitate a toddler protesting a nap, stamping your feet, waving your arms and in between yawns wailing “I’m not tired!” just because the concept in question apparently terrifies you in some regard (this is directed at several posters, none of which is the OP).

When you boil down the culture and lifestyle in question to it’s basic components, you end up with the following:
  • Avoiding vanity and the “keeping up with the Joneses” mentality
  • Striving to honor God in all you do and submitting to His Will
  • Providing a loving home atmosphere for your family
  • Living a simple life, rather than an extravagant one
  • Making use of some of the best the world has to offer (modern medicine, including chemotherapy and whatnot)
  • Avoiding that which is considered immodest
  • Acting as good stewards of this planet and not abusing it
  • Living in accordance with what the bishop decides
Where in that exactly is something that screams anti-Catholic scary stuff that we ought to bash? Frankly, without all the particulars of sleeve length and profession and where you are located, etc. isn’t that EXACTLY how we as Catholics are supposed to live? The last point in particular is essential to being Catholic, as it means we are to live lives faithful to that which our Bishop, the Holy Father, decides.

Also, consider what follows the scripture readings in Mass. What is said is, “The Word of the Lord.”

Once more, and feel free to say it with me, “The Word of the Lord.”

NOT, “The Word of the Lord, as it applied to the time and place it was written. Feel free to discard whatever portions you see fit, as we’re two-thousand years removed and times have changed.”

What was written is what the Church was founded upon, and to pick and choose what portions, if any, of the Word you wish to listen to is sheer and utter nonsense. If that’s your faith and what you believe, then there are a thousand or more other denominations out there that’d probably love to have you. Our Catholic faith has been handed down directly from the Son of God Almighty Himself - WHO ARE WE to think we know better??? Who are we to declare the commandments, the teachings of Christ and the writings of St. Paul “out of touch” and “old-fashioned”??? NO!

Having said that, though, the ways in which God calls us to Him are as numerous as the stars. Yes, some of us are called to bloom where we’re planted, some are called to the priesthood and religious, some to the sacrament of matrimony, some to simple, plain lives in the country. But we are all called! He calls us all to Him in some way. And we being the imperfect, disobedient children we are either choose to listen to His call or not, but that doesn’t make it go away just because we don’t want to hear His voice!

To the naysayers - You can no more discount God’s Will for someone else than I can. It is not our place in this life to tear down those who feel the pull to a vocation, to tell them in essence they’ve lost their minds. On the other hand, it’s not my place, nor anyone other persons, to judge you. But before you do such things, be sure you understand who and what you are speaking for and why, as the temptations to sin can be oh so subtle and come from the best of intentions.

To the OP - If the Lord calls you to live in voluntary simplicity, then you must choose whether or not you want to listen to His call. However, I can say from personal experience, that if He truly wills this for you, avoiding it, running from it, ignoring it and so on will only lead to misery as He WILL wear you down. It is never, ever easy to follow Christ, as we are told it will be a cross to us and we will be persecuted for it. But it is much, much harder to deny the Will of the Father!

May God, our ever-patient and ever-loving Father Bless us all and be merciful, as none of us are fit to stand in His awesome presence.
 
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