Should homosexual acts be illegal from a Catholic & Government perspective?

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Cool, bro. Let’s criminalize Catholicism since that would never affect me. Of course, I don’t know who is or isn’t a practising Catholic, but we’ll just arrest anyone who claims to be a Catholic.
That’s already started to happen because of the ones who practice or encourage sodomy. I guess with sodomy VS religious liberty it’s like the old Western cliche that goes “this town isn’t big enough for the two of us”. Jesus said that light can’t coexist with darkness 🙂
 
That’s already started to happen because of the ones who practice or encourage sodomy.
Come on, now. That’s a little extreme. I’m sure there are plenty of sodomites that don’t care about your religion. If anything lots of militant irreligious folk are probably causing just as much trouble.
I guess with sodomy VS religious liberty it’s like the old Western cliche that goes “this town isn’t big enough for the two of us”. Jesus said that light can’t coexist with darkness 🙂
We all know that’s not true. I happen to have a number of Christian friends, and we get on fine and dandy despite me being possibly the worst sinner since Sodom and Gomorrah (I’m sure that’s a little bit of an overstatement, but you get the idea).
 
That’s already started to happen because of the ones who practice or encourage sodomy. I guess with sodomy VS religious liberty it’s like the old Western cliche that goes “this town isn’t big enough for the two of us”. Jesus said that light can’t coexist with darkness 🙂
some modern Catholics living in the USA with the full protection of the first amendment still have this persecution complex. they don’t feel right unless they’re being “persecuted”. but not real “persecution”, in the old style, of being dragged off and murdered, but a comfortable kind of “persecution” that one can fight from behind a keyboard. since we’re not being hunted down by the Gestapo, we can always worry about how to prosecute two people having anal sex.

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You’ve never searched for anything on Google? It was reported on by Reuters Sunday, January 13, 2013, 2:16 PM. If I provide the link to the naked protest I could get reported for it because we can’t provide a link to anything that is pornographic and obscene, and you know that.

Hint: I wasn’t born yesterday. ;)You can say that about every law. So what’s your point? 🙂
I did search, but I could not find it. You could get reported for posting a statue of David yet that probably isn’t going to get you an infraction.

No I mean it was extremely unevenly enforced, by orders of magnitude.
some modern Catholics living in the USA with the full protection of the first amendment still have this persecution complex. they don’t feel right unless they’re being “persecuted”. but not real “persecution”, in the old style, of being dragged off and murdered, but a comfortable kind of “persecution” that one can fight from behind a keyboard. since we’re not being hunted down by the Gestapo, we can always worry about how to prosecute two people having anal sex.

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They can drag me off, sodomize me and murder me for all I care.
 
You’ve never searched for anything on Google? It was reported on by Reuters Sunday, January 13, 2013, 2:16 PM. If I provide the link to the naked protest I could get reported for it because we can’t provide a link to anything that is pornographic and obscene, and you know that.

Hint: I wasn’t born yesterday. ;)You can say that about every law. So what’s your point? 🙂
The protest on January 13th was by a Ukrainian women’s rights group. The “four letter words” you have referred to are “Shut Up” and “In Gay we Trust”. You continually post those other pictures which are from entirely separate events, one of which was in Chile, not the Vatican, without mentioning what they were really from.
 
The protest on January 13th was by a Ukrainian women’s rights group. The “four letter words” you have referred to are “Shut Up” and “In Gay we Trust”. You continually post those other pictures which are from entirely separate events, one of which was in Chile, not the Vatican, without mentioning what they were really from.
When Westboro Baptists protest is it the location or the way they protest that make it obscene and offensive? 🙂
 
When Westboro Baptists protest is it the location or the way they protest that make it obscene and offensive? 🙂
westboro is careful about staying within the legal limits of protest. are you talking about obscene and offense in a legal sense, or your own personal point of view?
 
Come on, now. That’s a little extreme. I’m sure there are plenty of sodomites that don’t care about your religion. If anything lots of militant irreligious folk are probably causing just as much trouble.
In a way I agree with you. Homosexuals only make up on average about 2% of the population. So-called “same-sex marriage” wouldn’t have gotten this far without the help of heterosexuals pushing it along. So probably the majority in numbers of the ones that are pushing the “gay” agenda are heterosexuals. And I’m sure there are probably some homosexuals with SSA that don’t want marriage to be changed to “same-sex marriage”. As I’ve said in a different post, I think the one who encourages it, even if they are heterosexual and not doing it themselves, are committing an even greater sin than a homosexual who sins in private by giving in to the behavior.
We all know that’s not true. I happen to have a number of Christian friends, and we get on fine and dandy despite me being possibly the worst sinner since Sodom and Gomorrah (I’m sure that’s a little bit of an overstatement, but you get the idea).
Actually, I’m probably a worse sinner than you. But fortunately there exists the sacrament of reconciliation. 🙂
 
Where is there an Amish Country…?
Its not an actual country but it is simply a term used to refer to places which are rural where there are communities of Amish. There are a lot of them in Pennsylvania and there are a few here in Indiana as well. 🙂
 
some modern Catholics living in the USA with the full protection of the first amendment still have this persecution complex. they don’t feel right unless they’re being “persecuted”. but not real “persecution”, in the old style, of being dragged off and murdered, but a comfortable kind of “persecution” that one can fight from behind a keyboard. since we’re not being hunted down by the Gestapo, we can always worry about how to prosecute two people having anal sex.

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:rotfl: I hear ya.l…it made me laugh. Great post!😃

I would love to know who is watching and who is going to report it. :eek:
 
some modern Catholics living in the USA with the full protection of the first amendment still have this persecution complex. they don’t feel right unless they’re being “persecuted”. but not real “persecution”, in the old style, of being dragged off and murdered, but a comfortable kind of “persecution” that one can fight from behind a keyboard. since we’re not being hunted down by the Gestapo, we can always worry about how to prosecute two people having anal sex.F/
Straw man. None of us Catholics has said that persecution of Christians in the United States is currently at its worst. Every persecution has a starting point, and usually it happens in slow increments. Very rarely if ever does it happen where a persecuted people are one day suddenly put to death without any warning signs that came before. Do you believe that the Holocaust happened overnight and had no lesser forms of persecution that led up to it? Also, if you want to say that people aren’t being persecuted unless a country is putting them to death you would have to say that “gays” in America were never persecuted since they as well are protected by the United States first amendment. 🙂
 
westboro is careful about staying within the legal limits of protest. are you talking about obscene and offense in a legal sense, or your own personal point of view?
WBC are regarded universally as being obscene and offensive, and so should the naked “gay” activists. Except that one would have to go to a Catholic website to find any denouncement of an obscene “gay” activist protest of the Catholic Church. 🙂
 
some modern Catholics living in the USA with the full protection of the first amendment still have this persecution complex. they don’t feel right unless they’re being “persecuted”. but not real “persecution”, in the old style, of being dragged off and murdered, but a comfortable kind of “persecution” that one can fight from behind a keyboard. since we’re not being hunted down by the Gestapo, we can always worry about how to prosecute two people having anal sex.

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Spiritual persecution is just as real and bad if not worse than corporal persection.

“Do not be afraid of the one who can kill the body, but the one who can destroy both body and soul in hell.”
 
Spiritual persecution is just as real and bad if not worse than corporal persection.

“Do not be afraid of the one who can kill the body, but the one who can destroy both body and soul in hell.”
persecution targets the Church, I offer that definition by a look at what have been historically considered “persecutions”… decriminalizing homosexual acts is not aimed at breaking the Church, no one is defecting because gays are not prosecuted for sodomy. belief in persecution is a tried and true way to close ranks and develop group cohesion, I get that, but decriminalized sodomy is not a persecution that Nero or Diocletian would recognize.

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Straw man. None of us Catholics has said that persecution of Christians in the United States is currently at its worst. Every persecution has a starting point, and usually it happens in slow increments.)
I do not want to open a rabbit hole but I think you are quite correct.

Those that defend state protected immoral practices seem to have a reductionist understanding of harm. Unless people are being jailed or killed they declare no problems are happening. I always ask these folks when we should start being concerned ?

They usually say when people are being physically hurt, but by then it is too late.
 
Straw man. None of us Catholics has said that persecution of Christians in the United States is currently at its worst. Every persecution has a starting point, and usually it happens in slow increments. Very rarely if ever does it happen where a persecuted people are one day suddenly put to death without any warning signs that came before. Do you believe that the Holocaust happened overnight and had no lesser forms of persecution that led up to it? Also, if you want to say that people aren’t being persecuted unless a country is putting them to death you would have to say that “gays” in America were never persecuted since they as well are protected by the United States first amendment. 🙂
I do not want to open a rabbit hole but I think you are quite correct.

Those that defend state protected immoral practices seem to have a reductionist understanding of harm. Unless people are being jailed or killed they declare no problems are happening. I always ask these folks when we should start being concerned ?

They usually say when people are being physically hurt, but by then it is too late.
I think it’s because they don’t care if we get persecuted. They want what they want. And it doesn’t matter one iota to them if in getting what they want Christians get persecuted and America goes completely belly up. Some might even take pleasure in seeing these things happen. The struggle between those who follow Christ and those who love money and the flesh is as old as the Church. 🙂
 
I think it’s because they don’t care if we get persecuted. They want what they want. And it doesn’t matter one iota to them if in getting what they want Christians get persecuted and America goes completely belly up. Some might even take pleasure in seeing these things happen. The struggle between those who follow Christ and those who love money and the flesh is as old as the Church. :)
And the human condition is fallible…for some anyway.🤷
 

Those that defend state protected immoral practices seem to have a reductionist understanding of harm. Unless people are being jailed or killed they declare no problems are happening. I always ask these folks when we should start being concerned ?..
another misrepresentation, you don’t get it either. the social cost of rooting out all sodomy, everywhere – the peeping tom snitch example among other problems – creates a greater harm than sodomy itself. if the government prosecutes, it will do so very selectively and not against the average couple, meaning how the law is applied is already unfair.

you can’t hand wave away these kinds of vices either. you’re offended by them, don’t practice them, accept the fact that you have to live among atheists, protestants, demicans and sodomites.

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