Should I read Harry Potter books?

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He wasn’t the chief exorcist for the Vatican. There’s no such position. This is a great example of the misleading statements that HP critics always bring up in these threads.
From what I could gather, the late Father wasn’t actually familiar with the texts themselves. I am.
Have some people got into the occult after reading Harry Potter? Sure. But they could have done the same thing after reading Lord of the Rings. There is no real occultic elements in either book series - but some people with a disordered sense of discerning fiction from reality may explore real world magic.
 
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To th others, I would rather listen to an exorcist than a random disgruntled poster on CAF.
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Haha, you will come to know we have a lot of those. Primarily on threads concerning Church tradition and Vatican II. Oh yeah, and Harry Potter.

@adgloriam informative posts.
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Have some people got into the occult after reading Harry Potter? Sure. But they could have done the same thing after reading Lord of the Rings.
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That’s why all of these types of “entertainment” are spoken against by 90% of exorcists.
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There is no real occultic elements in either book series
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There are real spells in HP and the names of real demons, verified by exorcists. One could say it is even a step above occultic.
 
Except there are no real spells. These exorcists never seem to have any familiarity with the actual books. It’s all hearsay.

I can quote the Scripture verses found in the actual texts of the novels. I can point to the interviews where Rowling, as the author, denies any connection to Wicca or the occult and talks about how her Christian upbringing inspired much of the content of the novels. These critics can never quote or reference the actual novels…at all… it’s all hearsay and baseless accusations with no citations of any sort. One would expect better of Catholics. We have a rich intellectual tradition.

Please cite your statistic of “90% of exorcists”.
 
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^ As well as of speaking out against “these types of entertainment.” I’ve never heard of such a thing as reading LotR going against the Catholic faith or tradition.
 
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I stand corrected. Thank you.

He was still very experienced though. Probably THE most experienced of exorcists.
 
Here is a video for those of you who have never read Harry Potter, but so strongly speak out against it, to help you see why many Catholics have no problems reading it.


Also, there is an imprimatur in the description verifying that this video does not go against Church teaching. There is a whole series of videos that he made, but I haven’t watched them all.
 
Which one is real?
Accio
Aguamenti
Alohamora
Apparate
Aresto Momentum
Avada Kedavra
Ascendio
Bat-Bogey Hex
Colloportus
Confundo
Diffindo
Episkey
Engorgio
Evanesco
Expect Patronum
Expelliarmus
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Finite
Finite Incantatem
Gemino
Homenun Revelio
Immobilus
Impedimenia
Imperio
Impervius
Incarcerous
Incendio
Lancarum Inflamarae
Legilimemens
Levicorpus
Liberacorpus
Lumos
Nox
Lumos Maxima
Muffliato
Oculus Reparo
Obliviate
Petrificus Totalus
Piertotum Locomotor (my favorite)
Prior Incantato
Protego
Reducio
Reductio
Relashio
Reparo
Repello Muggletum
Revelio
Scourgify
Sectumsempra
Serpensortia
Silencio
Stupefy
Tarantallegra
Vulnera Sanentur
or :takes breath:
Wingardium Leviosa
 
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The “Harry Potter Phenomenon” didn’t happen by chance. Less importantly, to start with, it had a global merchandising&advertisement machine behind it (goes without saying). Those sales and the speed it caught on does not happen by chance. There is no coincidence about it, except perhaps JKRowling sitting alone broke in a caffe writting her first novel. [I’d say the sale numbers were artificially inflated to feed the hype, perhaps more exemplars were taken off the shelves and discarded than were sold - as is also often the case in the publishing world - even so, it sold countless millions all over the world.]

Now, more interestingly, its defacto success both literary and controversy wise:

I’ll grant the novels might be good, but there are no short amount of good writers about. What is more than a coincidence, is two fold:

First, the enormous potential for creating “polemic” due to its internal structure and subtle playing with concepts touching (however slightly) upon the sacred and forbidden. The debate, on these threads, remits always to a subtle doctrinal distinction between what is sacred and not. What is evil and forbidden, or not. And writing such a body of books without committing serious doctrinal mistakes (to the contrary, playing skillfully with the subtle limits and boundaries of what constitutes) is not by chance. The chance/coincidence that any writer would manage to write several books containing nothing contrary to church teachings is slim - so it has all the signs of being a well thought out construct - aiming at more than merely writing children’s books. And even if it were so, someone would always be looking out to capitalize on the potential “polemic” sure to arise.

So these are the two factors, its literary success was constructed by merchandise and the polemic more than foreseen. [These are the foremost factors in thinking about the Harry Potter phenomenon - a world wide phenomenon. For the factors of its success lie outside of the books themselves.]

@Francis @fin @mVitus @Sarcelle @1ke @angel12 @ChurchSoldier @BartholomewB @Allegra @TK421

Controversy over the Harry Potter series - Wikipedia

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Excellent! A rational argument that actually shows a familiarity with the text…
 
The friar in the video posted by Magdalene actually shows a familiarity with the text of the novels. Watch his video. The critics have nothing but hearsay.
 
Marcel Mauss (1872 – 1950)

Esquisse d’une théorie générale de la magie, (with Henri Hubert) 1902.

@TK421 the parts the Dominican (third order?) youngster doesn’t touch upon are the real juice than can be verified on threads such as these. We are again verifying well established age old principals…
Today, he is perhaps better recognised for his influence on the latter discipline, particularly with respect to his analyses of topics such as magic, sacrifice, and gift exchange in different cultures around the world.
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Marcel Mauss - Wikipedia

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:lets cats get comfy:

Chapter One

The Boy Who Lived

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Probably Avada Kedavra. I mean kids learning about abra kedabra in kiddies movies are okay.

And it will probably solve all the unsolved murders if we tell the authorities now that I think about it…
 
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Well said Catholic should avoid such books ,Even The Catholic Church term it as new age

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/p...s/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html

Again, this is evidence of a deep desire for a fulfilling and healthy existence for the human race and for the planet. Some of the traditions which flow into New Age are: ancient Egyptian occult practices, Cabbalism, early Christian gnosticism, Sufism, the lore of the Druids, Celtic Christianity, mediaeval alchemy, Renaissance hermeticism, Zen Buddhism, Yoga and so on.(15)

In early December, the Diocese of Rome’s official exorcist, Father Gabriele Amorth, warned parents against the Harry Potter book series. The priest, who is also the president of the International Association of Exorcists, said Satan is behind the works. In an interview with the Italian ANSA news agency, Father Amorth said, “Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness, the devil.”

The exorcist, with his decades of experience in directly combating evil, explained that J.K. Rowling’s books contain innumerable positive references to magic, “the satanic art.” He noted that the books attempt to make a false distinction between black and white magic, when in fact, the distinction “does not exist, because magic is always a turn to the devil.”
 
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Our bishop advised against reading them. But by that time, I’d already read them and enjoyed them. I loved the movies too.

Honestly, the TV series “Charmed” would attract more people to Wicca than the Harry Potter books.
 
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