Should Islamic head coverings be banned in public?

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As the Catholic habit is banned.

From what I understand, the Catholic habit is banned as it is deemed religious.

I want to know why the hijab, niqab and burka are allowed in public as these are also religious and not to mention offensive to many more people then would find the Catholic habit same offensively.

This is a clear double standard to me…
 
St_Aloysius said:
The Catholic habit is banned in public? How? Why?
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In Canada we call the traditional Nun headwear and clothing “a habit” or “the habit”.

The habit cannot be worn in any public place in North America and Europe. I think you two should know this.

Now please stay on topic and weigh in on the original question please.
 
IHF said:
As the Catholic habit is banned.

From what I understand, the Catholic habit is banned as it is deemed religious.

I want to know why the hijab, niqab and burka are allowed in public as these are also religious and not to mention offensive to many more people then would find the Catholic habit same offensively.

This is a clear double standard to me…
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I think the burka should be allowed in public areas, excepting areas/buildings where security is required for all people, such as in D.C.

This question reminded me of the debate over the woman who wouldn’t remove her burka for a DL photo. That would be an example where I believe the burka should be removed temporarily, but still permitted for general use.

I guess you need to define “public”?
 
LDNCatholic said:
Nonsense.
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I can see that you are trying to hijack my thread.

Please explain to me where you have seen the habit worn recently?

In schools? Hospitals? They are banned in those places.

So instead of hijacking my thread please answer the original question.
 
IHF said:
I can see that you are trying to hijack my thread.

Please explain to me where you have seen the habit worn recently?

In schools? Hospitals? They are banned in those places.

So instead of hijacking my thread please answer the original question.
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In both schools and hospitals in Europe actually 🙂 No Hijacking, just correction where it is obviously needed.
 
I’ve never heard that the habit was banned anywhere in the US…

If the habit is banned then Islamic head coverings should be banned. Personally I think both should be allowed.
 
If you want to start a thread about nuns who don’t wear habits, do so.

You are only making yourself look ridiculous with this one.
 
IHF said:
I can see that you are trying to hijack my thread.

Please explain to me where you have seen the habit worn recently?

In schools? Hospitals? They are banned in those places.

So instead of hijacking my thread please answer the original question.
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The other day I saw a couple of nuns walking down the street in full habit gear so yeah…

Like HannahLisa said, if habits were banned for whatever insane reason it would only be fair for Islamic head coverings to be banned. But neither should be banned
 
1ke said:
If you want to start a thread about nuns who don’t wear habits, do so.

You are only making yourself look ridiculous with this one.
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Hrm…I could have sworn that I read this someplace…recently.

Didn’t they ban the original Nun outfit?

Anyway’s, I’ll wait for my next chance to bash these liberals…
 
I also have seen a few nuns, fully garbed, walking down the street one day. I can’t imagine how or why the habit could be banned. What’s the difference between the collar and the habit? Both are signs of religious faith and vocation. (Unless the banning of the habit would just be because it can obscure someone’s identity, which could be important if an incident occurred in some public area.)

Still, I’m of the opinion that both should be allowed. I think the practices are beautiful and admirable. (Especially for Islamic women who choose to wear their coverings, even when it’s not obligatory. I think it makes them look so strong, so beautiful, in comparison to the way some kids my age dress–and act.)
 
IHF said:
As the Catholic habit is banned.

From what I understand, the Catholic habit is banned as it is deemed religious.

I want to know why the hijab, niqab and burka are allowed in public as these are also religious and not to mention offensive to many more people then would find the Catholic habit same offensively.

This is a clear double standard to me…
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In the United States religious garb has never been banned except in situations where safety may be an issue, which are far and few between. Therefore, it would be immoral to ban the hijab, niqab and burka.

You can see sisters, clerics and Jews wearing their respective religious garb in many places. If we are to apply what the Church teaches on religious freedom, then all of the above must also be permitted.

The only countries in the Americas that ban religious garb of all faiths in public are Mexico and Cuba. Cuba makes an exception for the Daughters of Charity.

I don’t know about Canada. None of the other American nations have such a ban.

JR 🙂
 
Someone better tell the Missionaries of Charity that they can’t wear their habits anymore, since they seem to be wearing them every single time we go help out at the women’s shelter.

But to answer your question, no, Islamic head coverings should not be banned in public- with the very logical exception given above, as in a picture needed for identification purposes (that whole driver’s license story got me so mad- as if it’s a RIGHT to drive…grrrr). Nor should the clothing markers of other religious groups.
 
IHF said:
As the Catholic habit is banned.

From what I understand, the Catholic habit is banned as it is deemed religious.

I want to know why the hijab, niqab and burka are allowed in public as these are also religious and not to mention offensive to many more people then would find the Catholic habit same offensively.

This is a clear double standard to me…
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No article of clothing is “banned” in the U.S. You can walk down the street in a Darth Vader mask if you want. And no, Islamic garb shouldn’t be banned, either.

Are you thinking about the issue with drivers license photographs? That isn’t the same as banning the garb in public.
 
Gamera said:
No article of clothing is “banned” in the U.S. You can walk down the street in a Darth Vader mask if you want. And no, Islamic garb shouldn’t be banned, either.

Are you thinking about the issue with drivers license photographs? That isn’t the same as banning the garb in public.
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The driver’s license issue constitutes a safety concern. In that case it is legitimate to ask the person to uncover their face or head.

When the Daughters of Charity wore coronets, many states refused to give them driver’s licenses because the wings on the coronet blocked the rear view. That was a legitimate safety concern which the Daughters corrected by replacing the Corontet with a smaller cap for driving. It looked like a shower cap. This was before they went to the short blue veil in the picture above.

The same can be said about going through airport security and so forth. Those are safety issues.

Other than that, we have no laws in the US that prohibits religious garb in public.

In New York City Public Schools, Sisters were not allowed wear a habit to teach, but Jewish male teachers were not allowed to wear a Yamulke and other faiths were not allowed to wear their religious garb. Eventually the courts in New York City said that this was unconstitutional.

JR 🙂
 
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