Should Marijuana be legal? Vote the poll!

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To the degree that marijuana promotes experiences of love and decreases the likelihood of aggression, which I believe it does, it should be legal.

LOVE! ❤️
 
It’s a tough one.

If an adult wants to smoke cannabis maybe it is their choice but selling it should be done sensibly, no street dealing.

I think there would be more car crashes though.

:hmmm:
 
Nelka said:
It’s a tough one.

If an adult wants to smoke cannabis maybe it is their choice but selling it should be done sensibly, no street dealing.

I think there would be more car crashes though.

:hmmm:
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Well the surest way to decrease car crashes is to eliminate cars. 😉
 
Loki(name removed by moderator) said:
On the other hand, I feel like if it were legal it would save us a ton of money. So many tax dollars are spent on persecuting marijuana use and keeping people in jail for it.
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I selected “yes” because I am in favor of decriminalizing it. But I discourage it’s use. If the penalty for being caught with it were not a complete reduction in employment potential then I might be inclined to vote otherwise.
 
Endorsing vice is always a bad idea. Go to Atlantic City, multi-million dollar casinos on the boardwalk while two blocks over looks like a demilitarized zone.
 
Lion_IRC said:
In Australia, they are taxing cigarette smokers into oblivion. (Mainly to try and reduce the massive health-care costs related to smoking)

Smoking is banned in virtually all public spaces - train stations, restaurants, markets, indoor workplaces.

All tobacco advertising is banned.

Cigarette packets cannot be visible to the customer at the point of sale - customers can’t see any merchandising from behind the counter. Plain packaging of cigarettes is mandatory. (Dull, gray, black. etc)
The only color allowed on the packaging is government-imposed health warnings like these;

http://images-2.domain.com.au/2013/07/22/4590137/aa-20130722115821900702-620x349.jpg

…so why would any government want to send a mixed signal to people by newly announcing that smoking marijuana is OK.
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There are other means to consume marijuana other than smoking, for example vapor, tincture, etc which would reduce these risks to ZERO.

I favor decriminalization for adults. Prohibition of non-lethal substances are a failure, and results in wasted funds and skewed policy.
 
This question will be answered not by any moral standard - but by the potential profit and tax grab that can come from it by government and private industry , I read an article that the cigarette company s are foaming at the mouth to be involved because of the potential profit - their set-up and ready to go they just have to change the raw material - its just a mater of time - money talks in north America. Right now we have a finger in the dike and the dam is about to collapse. Profit will override everything else on this issue - the potential for big business is huge and profits massive. Which is the North American way .

Its not like we can stop it the way it is now the drug war on MJ has failed completely - may as well control it.
 
SyroMalankara said:
There are other means to consume marijuana other than smoking, for example vapor, tincture, etc which would reduce these risks to ZERO.
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Sure, but the same is true of nicotine/tobacco.

And yet, the vast majority of marijana/tobacco consumption is in the form of smoking. (And I think you know this already) :cool:
So basing an argument on such a flimsy, disingenuous quibbling seems to me a bit like the abortion lobby talking about rape pregnancies.
SyroMalankara said:
…I favor decriminalization for adults. Prohibition of non-lethal substances are a failure, and results in wasted funds and skewed policy.
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I think you will find that marijuana users - like tobacco users - actually do have shorter life expectancies.
 
GratefulFred said:
MJ should remain illegal. The degree of punishment should be adjusted given the circumstance.

As the California Governor recently said, do we really want to be become a nation of stoners?
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This coming from Gov. Moonbeam :rolleyes:

I vote yes. Let’s save all that money we spend on enforcing mj laws and generate money by taxing it silly, like everything else.
 
Corrupt law enforcement officials and border control officers could use that exact same reasoning to justify taking bribes from drug dealers.

Surely, this debate isn’t about the money, money, money?
It’s about people’s health - mental and physical.
 
Lion_IRC said:
Corrupt law enforcement officials and border control officers could use that exact same reasoning to justify taking bribes from drug dealers.

Surely, this debate isn’t about the money, money, money?
It’s about people’s health - mental and physical.
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If it is about “people’s health - mental and physical” than why would anyone be against the legalization of medicinal pot?
 
Sorry, I thought this Op and the poll was about recreational/addictive drug users not medicinal use.

Opium/heroin is illegal but hospitals use opium based pain killers everyday.
 
Lion_IRC said:
Sorry, I thought this Op and the poll was about recreational/addictive drug users not medicinal use.

Opium/heroin is illegal but hospitals use opium based pain killers everyday.
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I think the OP was about both types of use. But beyond the principle of it, it does seem like the enforcement actions are worse than the effects of the drug itself.

Is it really worth it to protect a potential user from themselves?
 
Lion_IRC said:
Sure, but the same is true of nicotine/tobacco.

And yet, the vast majority of marijana/tobacco consumption is in the form of smoking. (And I think you know this already) :cool:
So basing an argument on such a flimsy, disingenuous quibbling seems to me a bit like the abortion lobby talking about rape pregnancies.
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That’s ridiculous, since almost all forms of tobacco use - chewing, smoking, (Idontknowanyothers) are linked to cancer. Marijuana research is a huge maybe on smoking mj (some researchers think mj has anti-cancer properties), and a definitive ‘safe’ for the other forms (vapor, tincture, liquid, cooked/baked). So instead of making a weak and ridiculous statement like linking it to rape pregnancies, how about comparing to something that’s reasonable - like a potatoe (safe in all forms, except green, ironically).
I think you will find that marijuana users - like tobacco users - actually do have shorter life expectancies.
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I think this statement need data to back it up. You would also find people who live in Perry, Kentucky have shortest life expectancy in the US, however, living in Perry isn’t (yet) illegal.
 
SyroMalankara said:
That’s ridiculous, since almost all forms of tobacco use - chewing, smoking, (Idontknowanyothers) are linked to cancer. Marijuana research is a huge maybe on smoking mj (some researchers think mj has anti-cancer properties), and a definitive ‘safe’ for the other forms (vapor, tincture, liquid, cooked/baked). So instead of making a weak and ridiculous statement like linking it to rape pregnancies, how about comparing to something that’s reasonable - like a potatoe (safe in all forms, except green, ironically).

I think this statement need data to back it up. You would also find people who live in Perry, Kentucky have shortest life expectancy in the US, however, living in Perry isn’t (yet) illegal.
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The point about rape pregnancies was that;
  • rape pregnancy is to pro-choice advocacy
    as
  • tincture, medicinal marijuana is to the Cheech and Chong debate about weed.
Do you dispute that marijuana smoking has negative health impacts relative to non-users of marijuana? (In much the same way as the health differential between tobacco smokers vs non-smokers)
 
Lion_IRC said:
The point about rape pregnancies was that;
  • rape pregnancy is to pro-choice advocacy
    as
  • tincture, medicinal marijuana is to the Cheech and Chong debate about weed.
Do you dispute that marijuana smoking has negative health impacts relative to non-users of marijuana? (In much the same way as the health differential between tobacco smokers vs non-smokers)
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I don’t know, but I wouldn’t want anyone smoking in my or my kids faces. Since public smoking is banned effectively in most major cities, a simple extension of this to mj would do what’s necessary.
 
GratefulFred said:
MJ should remain illegal. The degree of punishment should be adjusted given the circumstance.

As the California Governor recently said, do we really want to be become a nation of stoners?
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There is a huge leap between legalizing marijuana and becoming a nation of stoners.

Marijuana should be decriminalized and regulated and controlled like any medical drug such as morphine.
 
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