Should pornography be legal (faithful Catholics only)?

[Seamus_L]

Once something becomes accepted as normal, any suggestion of prohibiting it will get you labeled a dangerous extremist who doesn’t believe in the Constitution.

 

[edwest2]

Once something becomes accepted as normal, any suggestion of prohibiting it will get you labeled a dangerous extremist who doesn’t believe in the Constitution.

Dangerous how?

"In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging “the right of the people…to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.’

Ed

 

[lemongrass80]

Funny how conservatives are so small government, minimal government intruding, unless it’s regarding something that offends their sensibilities. Then they want the government alllll up in everyone’s business.

 

[pianistclare]

The thing is, porn IS everyone’s business. It’s negative effects on society are endless. Which costs the population and drives the abuse, and buying and selling of people. Women, men, boys, and girls.
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We had a presentation on Human trafficking last night at our parish.
Porn is a HUGE problem and feeds this and other dangerous, illegal activity.
We must obliterate porn.

 

[Qoeleth]

Yes, prohibit entirely.

It is an act of degradation and violence. It cheapens humanity.

This is not to say reference to sexual imagery (like in the Songs of Songs) should (or even could be) abolished from art altogether.

 

[Michael_Mayo]

The only problem is that pornography to one person can be art to another. Divinci’s statue of David for example.

 

[edwest2]

Funny how conservatives are so small government, minimal government intruding, unless it’s regarding something that offends their sensibilities. Then they want the government alllll up in everyone’s business.

Groups of people with money and access to powerful people. That’s the equation. No, not everyone is corrupt, but the number of lobbyists for special interests have shown they can get the job done. Sometimes, it takes a while. Other times, not that much. Temptations are strong everywhere.

Ed

 

[pianistclare]

The only problem is that pornography to one person can be art to another. Divinci’s statue of David for example.

I don’t know of any educated person who calls that statue porn.
I for one, am talking about awful magazines, internet sites that exploit women and children, young boys, and the sex slave industry. All porn based.

 

[edwest2]

The thing is, porn IS everyone’s business. It’s negative effects on society are endless. Which costs the population and drives the abuse, and buying and selling of people. Women, men, boys, and girls.
.
We had a presentation on Human trafficking last night at our parish.
Porn is a HUGE problem and feeds this and other dangerous, illegal activity.
We must obliterate porn.

As long as it’s making money for all involved, there is a need to put the propaganda out there. Hands off porn. Do not interfere.

Here is what each of us can do: don’t buy it, watch it or promote it. Don’t be indifferent to it. And tell the people the amount of harm porn is causing daily. Even just posting on the internet is a start. The fewer of us not involved, bit by bit, the more we clean up our lives and make it less and less profitable.

Pray to God for strength and courage.

Ed

 

[edwest2]

The only problem is that pornography to one person can be art to another. Divinci’s statue of David for example.

How many people have a photo of that statue under their bed?

Ancient art has no say in the degradation created and aided by something that never existed in the past: the internet.

Ed

 

[pianistclare]

As long as it’s making money for all involved, there is a need to put the propaganda out there. Hands off porn. Do not interfere.

Here is what each of us can do: don’t buy it, watch it or promote it. Don’t be indifferent to it. And tell the people the amount of harm porn is causing daily. Even just posting on the internet is a start. The fewer of us not involved, bit by bit, the more we clean up our lives and make it less and less profitable.

Pray to God for strength and courage.

Ed

Amen. The children are at risk. No one believes it’s as bad as it is.
We DO need to pray fro the children and for people to stop being seen as a commodity.

 

[eamonnroma]

Pornography is unpleasant and distasteful. We should steer clear of it.

However, the sale and regulation of pornography is the responsibility of the State, and not the Roman Catholic Church.

 

[pianistclare]

Pornography is unpleasant and distasteful. We should steer clear of it.

However, the sale and regulation of pornography is the responsibility of the State, and not the Roman Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church does not want to sell or regulate porn.


Every living person should be against porn. It’s poison to every society.

 

[edwest2]

The government has to be concerned about the general welfare. Porn goes against the general welfare. I suggest a general database, updated continuously, of porn sites that appear. Preferably managed by a recognized anti-porn group that is Christian. Those sites will be added to a blocking or warning system. They will have the light shone on them. They will not hide. Those engaged in human trafficking need to be found. That’s slavery folks in new packaging. Human slavery is not legal.

Degrading the human person is regressive.

Ed

 

[edwest2]

Pornography is unpleasant and distasteful. We should steer clear of it.

However, the sale and regulation of pornography is the responsibility of the State, and not the Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church informs all men of good will about the physical and spiritual harm of pornography. It is duty-bound to free men from slavery to the flesh and embracing the truth.

Ed

 

[mikekle]

As long as there is a demand for it, someone will always be there to supply it, sadly this is the way it is, making it illegal would only increase profits and violence.

You think the war on drugs has been a miserable failure, wait until there is a war on porn, that will be even worse.

 

[Mike1955]

I am not a “faithful Catholic”, so feel free to ignore my reply!

I am an ardent believer in freedom. I do not want the government infringing on free speech and free expressions of ideas. I accept that there have to be some limits on our freedoms (let’s pull out the old hoary “yelling ‘fire’ in the movie theater” example), but the fact that someone else’s speech or expression offends me is not a basis for banning it or punishing it.

I do not have the time right now to review First Amendment judicial opinions to pull out quotes showing how some of our brilliant jurists have explained where to draw the line(s), but I know that I am not in favor of banning pornography. It is my/your obligation to resist temptation, not the government’s burden (or right) to shield me/you from temptation.

Remember the outcry over the Guess Jeans ads, with people decrying them as child porn? There are very hard lines to draw, and I do not want the government to have that power – whether the government is Hillary’s or Donald’s! Although pornography might be the Devil’s work, my fear of government is even greater!

 

[Blue_Horizon]

 

[mikekle]

I am not a “faithful Catholic”, so feel free to ignore my reply!

I am an ardent believer in freedom. I do not want the government infringing on free speech and free expressions of ideas. I accept that there have to be some limits on our freedoms (let’s pull out the old hoary “yelling ‘fire’ in the movie theater” example), but the fact that someone else’s speech or expression offends me is not a basis for banning it or punishing it.

I do not have the time right now to review First Amendment judicial opinions to pull out quotes showing how some of our brilliant jurists have explained where to draw the line(s), but I know that I am not in favor of banning pornography. It is my/your obligation to resist temptation, not the government’s burden (or right) to shield me/you from temptation.

Remember the outcry over the Guess Jeans ads, with people decrying them as child porn? There are very hard lines to draw, and I do not want the government to have that power – whether the government is Hillary’s or Donald’s! Although pornography might be the Devil’s work, my fear of government is even greater!

Well look at this, in the US, the FCC still censors network tv, any curse word or nudity and they can fine or shut them down…(when nudity in advertising and on network tv is accepted in most other countries), yet I can think of no one calling for the FCC to stop doing this, and this is the same country where all kinds of sexual immorality is encouraged and even celebrated…?? Is this the twilight zone or?

 

[goout]

Well look at this, in the US, the FCC still censors network tv, any curse word or nudity and they can fine or shut them down…(when nudity in advertising and on network tv is accepted in most other countries), yet I can think of no one calling for the FCC to stop doing this, and this is the same country where all kinds of sexual immorality is encouraged and even celebrated…?? Is this the twilight zone or?

And we legislate all kinds of things. As I pointed out before, feeding the hungry is legislated, and even though those laws are badly abused we continue to see the value in legislating this particular moral value.
We codify moral decisions all the time.In fact the whole law is in place to produce the kind of society our beliefs speak about.

It’s a mystery to me why the idea of abolishing pornography, in whatever form that law might take, is repulsive or frightening to so many.

It’s as if freedom of expression has become an untouchable moral absolute in itself. And the irony is, as it becomes an absolute, we have less of it. Look at Western Europe.