ROTFL!!!Faith will always triumph. While Faith leads us onward and upward into the Divine Light, deep down in the muck and mire Satan holds hands with the purveyors of humourless hateful atheism.
God Bless,
Colmcille1.
Any particular reason?
Hi RoseRed2,
Can I respond, Charlemagne, since you seem to lump me in here, too?Moonstruck
So if it was not chance, and was not design, and not by evolution, by what process did the first living cell come into being … that you dare not speak its name?
Stop beating around the bush and name it!
The frozen truth is that neither you nor any scientist has the foggiest notion of how the first living and replicating cell came to be. No doubt, however, you believe the holy grail of science will find the secret of all secrets in due course. And even if that secret never is discovered, your abiding faith that it will be will be as sure and predictable as the faith of any Christian that the universe exists for a purpose and is not the vacuous and meaningless entity you take it to be.
No wonder you and so many other atheists who visit this web site are so profoundly angry. I would be too if I thought my life was ultimately meaningless.
You seem to be about to burst a bloody blood vessel, mate.Hi RoseRed2,
A word of advice. The atheists on this thread operate from a base line of NO RESPONSIBILITY to any faith or Church. Yet they think they can freely quote scripture!! They lack any insight and their “arguments” are so bloody-minded it borders on sheer lunacy. They do not like this being pointed out to them as it hurts the solitary thread of their being here on this site namely: bloody-minded arguments! They cannot distinguish between levels of “humour” and indeed one cannot grasp the concept at all.
On another thread one atheist wonders why there are so many Catholics on this website!
I would not dignify the bile that passes for comment from one but I will do my utmost to alert all to said bile.
This is all part of fighting Satan.
God Bless,
Colmcille1.
We don’t know. The research is very young and speculative. I already posted the link to abiogenesis theories above in this thread. Did you look at it?Moonstruck
So if it was not chance, and was not design, and not by evolution, by what process did the first living cell come into being … that you dare not speak its name?
“abiogenesis”Stop beating around the bush and name it!
Of course. This is common knowledge. Why are you treating it like a “gotcha” moment?
Maybe, maybe not. This likely occured 3 billion years ago. That is a far reach for full scientific accuracy of bio-development.
That’s meaningless hyperbole. Who called it “vacuous” or “meaningless”? Stop attributing things to persons who have NOT stated them.
If you are calling me angry, you are wrong. And I do NOT consider my life “meaningless,” nor do most atheists. That is an unfair and inaccurate description.No wonder you and so many other atheists who visit this web site are so profoundly angry. I would be too if I thought my life was ultimately meaningless.
The process is not a single process but a chain of processes and events. It doesn’t have a single word name. That’s the trouble with real things that aren’t the work of someone’s imagination. Real life is complicated. It doesn’t come in convenient little sound bite sized piecesMoonstruck
So if it was not chance, and was not design, and not by evolution, by what process did the first living cell come into being … that you dare not speak its name?
Stop beating around the bush and name it!
Actually, biological scientists know pretty precisely how the first cell came to be. We’re hard at work on the experimental verification right now, and it will be proven, probably within my lifetime.
You might be less angry if you actually thought at all…No wonder you and so many other atheists who visit this web site are so profoundly angry. I would be too if I thought my life was ultimately meaningless.
Yes. Science is not just secular. Science is actually all about God’s creation. Without Him it would not be here.
That is fine and well, but God made things so that they work on their own without his intervention. If science was not secular we would probably just answer a lot of questions with “that is how God wanted it” or something like that without trying to get to the actual physical answer. Science should be secular because using God in science would just let us be lazy and would be the answer for anything we couldn’t figure out.
How on Earth does one worship matter? What a preposterous statement. What is it you think I do, sing hymns to it? Eat effigies of matter on Sunday morning?This is what I mean … anger and arrogance.
Your promise of an answer at some time in the indefinite future is touching. Too bad you don’t have the same undying faith in the answer to the purpose for why you even exist … to know, love, and serve God in this world, and be happy with Him forever in the next.
Secularism is no less a faith than Christianity … blind and trusting … one worships God, the other worships meaningless Matter.
Actually yes they were. Using the God of the gaps.
And your assertion that scientist “don’t have the foggiest” how the first cells formed is either idiocy or outright mendacity.
Every proposal for explaining abiogenesis is based on an imaginary model, not actual science. That is why ID is just as feasible as any other model, and more so than some because all the others rely on pure speculation, whereas ID relies on the pure logic of the plausible versus the virtually impossible.