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rastell
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I would be in favor of it because it is already permitted in the Eastern Rite of the Church.
However, I am afraid a lot of people want to use it as a stepping stone to more radical changes in the Church. They might not be able to force the Church to make such further changes because the Pope and the bishops will never go against the teachings of the Bible and Tradition, but they can make things rough for the Church by making it appear that it is turning into a liberal Protestant âanything goesâ type of Church.
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Naphali
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For the first 800 years of church history there were married priests â not just because they converted that way but because it was acceptable â It changed because the church couldnât afford to support families when the priests died â and celebacy didnât seem like that bad a way to go since monks were already celebate, and naturally Jesus was â
Itâs not a huge jump to go back to something that was fine before â
I think if a young man in seminary gets married he should be able to continue the path to priesthood should he so wish â but that after ordination a priest should be commited to the woman heâs married to or no one.
Honestly there is such a shortage of great passionate priests that this is a good way to change, not like ordaining woman, which weâve never done â if priests were married we could have more than one run a parish so the late night calls wouldnât be so hard to deal with â our our city the churches are simply HUGE and itâs hard for one priest to handle all the issues already, but the churches themselves are well off because there are so many parishioners â we could afford to support more than one â but weâd be hard pressed to FIND more than one good priest at this point.
Itâs not a huge jump to go back to something that was fine before â
I think if a young man in seminary gets married he should be able to continue the path to priesthood should he so wish â but that after ordination a priest should be commited to the woman heâs married to or no one.
Honestly there is such a shortage of great passionate priests that this is a good way to change, not like ordaining woman, which weâve never done â if priests were married we could have more than one run a parish so the late night calls wouldnât be so hard to deal with â our our city the churches are simply HUGE and itâs hard for one priest to handle all the issues already, but the churches themselves are well off because there are so many parishioners â we could afford to support more than one â but weâd be hard pressed to FIND more than one good priest at this point.
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LoneRanger
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i really think your trying to open a can of wormsâŚ
Married Priest? then, divorced priest, then divorced/remarried priestâŚ
Married Priest with children in trouble⌠⌠i donât know, i just donât see a convincing argument out there for married priestâŚ
who knowsâŚ
Married Priest? then, divorced priest, then divorced/remarried priestâŚ
Married Priest with children in trouble⌠⌠i donât know, i just donât see a convincing argument out there for married priestâŚ
who knowsâŚ
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Tazgurl21
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I agree with you, but there is some priest that are married. I know couple of them. Cuz they are family friends.
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Grace_and_Glory
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The Church could allow married priests, as others have pointed out, but I personally donât think it should. Being a priest is not just a job. It is not like one person might be a lawyer and another a priest. Being a priest conforms a person to Christ in a unique way. It makes the priest in many ways a spiritual bridegroom to the Church. It would be a huge responsibility for a priest to be that and also be the physical bridegroom of a woman.
I also look at 1 Corinthians 7, where Paul says that although there is no sin in being married, it is preferable for people who want to devote themselves to the Lord to remain unmarried because their interests will not be divided between the things of the Lord and âthe things of the worldâ: namely, the responsibilities that come from being a good spouse and parent.
I know a man who used to be a Protestant minister, and he fully supports priestly celibacy. Even though he was not a priest, he said that it is a very stressful thing for any minister to give himself fully to his church and also to his family. He has to be an emotional and spiritual support for his congregation and his family. I imagine that the stress would be even greater for a priest.
Another consideration is that the requirement for celibacy will hopefully weed out people who might pursue the priesthood without wanting to totally devote themselves to the service of the Church. Although this may mean that fewer people consider the priesthood, it may also mean that those people who do consider the priesthood will make better priests.
There are also practical considerations. For diocesan priests, there is always a real possibility that the bishop would need them to move. This would obviously be harder if a priest was married to a woman who worked or if he had children in school.
Obviously, this is my own opinion, and unlike the issue of women priests, I understand that reasonable and faithful Catholics may hold a variety of opinions on the idea of priestly celibacy.
I also look at 1 Corinthians 7, where Paul says that although there is no sin in being married, it is preferable for people who want to devote themselves to the Lord to remain unmarried because their interests will not be divided between the things of the Lord and âthe things of the worldâ: namely, the responsibilities that come from being a good spouse and parent.
I know a man who used to be a Protestant minister, and he fully supports priestly celibacy. Even though he was not a priest, he said that it is a very stressful thing for any minister to give himself fully to his church and also to his family. He has to be an emotional and spiritual support for his congregation and his family. I imagine that the stress would be even greater for a priest.
Another consideration is that the requirement for celibacy will hopefully weed out people who might pursue the priesthood without wanting to totally devote themselves to the service of the Church. Although this may mean that fewer people consider the priesthood, it may also mean that those people who do consider the priesthood will make better priests.
There are also practical considerations. For diocesan priests, there is always a real possibility that the bishop would need them to move. This would obviously be harder if a priest was married to a woman who worked or if he had children in school.
Obviously, this is my own opinion, and unlike the issue of women priests, I understand that reasonable and faithful Catholics may hold a variety of opinions on the idea of priestly celibacy.
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FiremanFrank
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The Church should do, what the Church wants to do, when She wants to do it.
THE END
So why are we wasting our time talking about it?
Because some think that they know better than the Church on what the Church should allow, thatâs why.
Remember, the question here was not âWhy doesnât the Church allow married priestsâ.
Too bad, as that would have been the right question to ask âŚ
frank
THE END
So why are we wasting our time talking about it?
Because some think that they know better than the Church on what the Church should allow, thatâs why.
Remember, the question here was not âWhy doesnât the Church allow married priestsâ.
Too bad, as that would have been the right question to ask âŚ
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WanderAimlessly
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I chose âYes, but only if they are converting and already married.â since that is what it allowed now in some cases.
This, however, is only for the Latin Rite.
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This, however, is only for the Latin Rite.
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ChristopherMich
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I wasnât asking for a moral discussion concerning this. I was simply looking for opinions.
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constantservice
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Personally I hope they soon allow already married theologians to enter the Priesthood. I would love to be able to serve our Lord as a Priest but am also married. I felt a strong call to marry my lovely wife, and now feel a very strong call to serve the Church, God and the laity as a Priest.
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FiremanFrank
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Well Christopher, hereâs why I addressed the question.
I have personally witnessed a tremendous amount of divisive, self-orchestrated mental theologizing in my own local parishes to NOT know where it will go. Where it always goes.
As these types of discussions invariably de-evolve into mere privatized affairs of people deciding on âHow WE want to run Godâs Churchâ.
Now this may certainly NOT have been your intention Christopher, but this is what almost always happens. Really, Iâm not kidding you about this here.
So the question that I always ask myself Christopher is this:
If Jesus Christ, who is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, and who is the only Son of the Living God - had given over sole authority for such decisions on earth to be carried out directly by Peter and to his successors âŚ
Then why would I really give a hoot as to what anybodyâs opinion is on the matter?
Bottom line is I donât. I seek Truth Christopher.
Why would anyone settle for anything else? How could anyone desire anything more âŚ
frank
I have personally witnessed a tremendous amount of divisive, self-orchestrated mental theologizing in my own local parishes to NOT know where it will go. Where it always goes.
As these types of discussions invariably de-evolve into mere privatized affairs of people deciding on âHow WE want to run Godâs Churchâ.
Now this may certainly NOT have been your intention Christopher, but this is what almost always happens. Really, Iâm not kidding you about this here.
So the question that I always ask myself Christopher is this:
If Jesus Christ, who is the Second Person of the Holy Trinity, and who is the only Son of the Living God - had given over sole authority for such decisions on earth to be carried out directly by Peter and to his successors âŚ
Then why would I really give a hoot as to what anybodyâs opinion is on the matter?
Bottom line is I donât. I seek Truth Christopher.
Why would anyone settle for anything else? How could anyone desire anything more âŚ
frank
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FiremanFrank
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Oh sorry, forgot something.
You said that this was not a moral discussion, that you just wanted opinions. Well, thatâs hard for me to do.
As I am a 2 graduate of the Formation for Ministry Program, and I had completed several years of training towards the diaconate in the Eastern Rite Catholic Church. So for me, and as a result of my rigorous studies - Iâve only become concerned with official Church Teaching.
And nothing more.
You said that this was not a moral discussion, that you just wanted opinions. Well, thatâs hard for me to do.
As I am a 2 graduate of the Formation for Ministry Program, and I had completed several years of training towards the diaconate in the Eastern Rite Catholic Church. So for me, and as a result of my rigorous studies - Iâve only become concerned with official Church Teaching.
And nothing more.
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Windmill
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I think people mistakenly think that allowing priests to marry would somehow open the floodgates for vocations. Studies show they are mistaken in that assumption.
Another assumption is that celibacy is what has caused all of the priest scandals. Wrongo, moose-breath. Studies have shown that the supermajority of these cases were by homosexuals. I find it interesting that instead of focusing on that fact and addressing hte problems within that paradigm, people (catholic and noncatholic) focus on celibacy as a possible cause. Why? Well, it sure is a lot easier to talk about THAT than saying we need to raise the bar on active homosexuals continuing on in seminary. However, there are just as many cases of child abuse among Protestant clergy as there are in the Catholic church - and I guarantee you there are more MARRIED Protestant clergy than Catholic. So, celibacy is a non-issue in the priest scandals.
I think the church should continue this discipline of celibacy. This world is oversaturated with sex. We are told it is the ultimate fulfillment. It is used to sell anything and everything. So, to have men (and women religious) voluntarily giving up this gift for the Kingdom is a HUGE witness in and of itself. To give oneself TOTALLY to God! WOW!!! The world looks at priests and nuns and they KNOW there is something real in that relationship with God because this religious person gave up that which the world tells us is the end-all-be-all of life.
Finally, Iâd say that, given the current discipline of priestly celibacy, God is not going to call ANYONE to that vocation if they are married. The poster above should examine the likely possibility that the âcallingâ he perceives is not genuine. No more than God calling a woman to be a priest.
âWhatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.â
Another assumption is that celibacy is what has caused all of the priest scandals. Wrongo, moose-breath. Studies have shown that the supermajority of these cases were by homosexuals. I find it interesting that instead of focusing on that fact and addressing hte problems within that paradigm, people (catholic and noncatholic) focus on celibacy as a possible cause. Why? Well, it sure is a lot easier to talk about THAT than saying we need to raise the bar on active homosexuals continuing on in seminary. However, there are just as many cases of child abuse among Protestant clergy as there are in the Catholic church - and I guarantee you there are more MARRIED Protestant clergy than Catholic. So, celibacy is a non-issue in the priest scandals.
I think the church should continue this discipline of celibacy. This world is oversaturated with sex. We are told it is the ultimate fulfillment. It is used to sell anything and everything. So, to have men (and women religious) voluntarily giving up this gift for the Kingdom is a HUGE witness in and of itself. To give oneself TOTALLY to God! WOW!!! The world looks at priests and nuns and they KNOW there is something real in that relationship with God because this religious person gave up that which the world tells us is the end-all-be-all of life.
Finally, Iâd say that, given the current discipline of priestly celibacy, God is not going to call ANYONE to that vocation if they are married. The poster above should examine the likely possibility that the âcallingâ he perceives is not genuine. No more than God calling a woman to be a priest.
âWhatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.â
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Badcat
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Hi Badcat here if a man is going to pick up his cross and serve as a Priest he should be ready to be the husband to all the widowâs and father to all the orphanâs and good sheperd to his flock and that is a full time job that god calls you to do.
P.S. as a priest you become married to god anyway and gods service is more important than that of the flesh anyway.
In Christ Love, badcat
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Kyenta
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I pray for vocations every day especially at Mass. I feel itâs not the quantity but the quality. We donât need tons of priests, we need GREAT priests!
One married priest on tv said he just didnât have the time to spend a lot of time with parishiners. He had a family with children. Also the other religions are also losing people because being married is not going to bring people in droves to the Catholic Church and any church. Are those the type of worshipers we want?
PRAYERâŚPRAYERâŚPRAYER! Pray the Rosary everyday for vocations.
One married priest on tv said he just didnât have the time to spend a lot of time with parishiners. He had a family with children. Also the other religions are also losing people because being married is not going to bring people in droves to the Catholic Church and any church. Are those the type of worshipers we want?
PRAYERâŚPRAYERâŚPRAYER! Pray the Rosary everyday for vocations.
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Christian4life
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I was going to say yes but yaâll have changed my mind.
Therefore,
Nope.
Therefore,
Nope.
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stbruno
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If we are trying to use the argument that by allowing married priests, we are reducing the risk of sexual abuseâŚthen think again. Children and adults are abused more by married heterosexual men than by priests. Sexual predators cross all boundaries.
Also, the Russian Orthodox church near us has a married pastor, and he has to work an additional job as a salesmen to support his family. therefore his time in the church is limited. Good thing he has a small congregation.
Also, the Russian Orthodox church near us has a married pastor, and he has to work an additional job as a salesmen to support his family. therefore his time in the church is limited. Good thing he has a small congregation.
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stbruno
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Married serve well as deacons in our diocese. They are prayerful and purposeful.
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Rand_Al_Thor
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this may have been answered earlier, but i havent read all the posts. isnt it already allowed for someone to be married if they convert? i read an article once about a protestant minister who was converting to catholicism and was going to be a priest (or maybe already was).
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Rand_Al_Thor
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this is true. not being married does not turn someone into a child molester. if a priest was having a hard time with the celibacy thing, wouldnt they turn to a woman? they sure wouldâŚunless they were already a pedophile. thatâs why there was child abuseâthe priests were already prone to that type of thing and never should have become priests in the first place.
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