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What grates on you the abbreviation or the name? What would YOU call them, considering that is their proper title?
Neither. I am sorry it was poorly worded on my part. I believe the OP saind,
“Eucharistic Minister” – only the ordained are eucharistic ministers.
That title, “Eucharistic Minister,” bugs me most of all. Not the correct abbreviation – I would prefer EMHC or the whole spelling.

😦 Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
That title, “Eucharistic Minister,” bugs me most of all. Not the correct abbreviation – I would prefer EMHC or the whole spelling.

😦 Sorry for the misunderstanding.
No problem. That one bugs me too, particularly when it’s my pastor telling me to use that term and not to use EMHC, a directive that goes against at least 3 documents on the Eucharist.
 
I believe the correct term would be an “Ethnic Parish” instead of a Geographic Parish.
 
What grates on you the abbreviation or the name? What would YOU call them, considering that is their proper title?
I call them Communion Distributors, for that is far less important sounding. And, as we’ve gotten more and more important soudning with their titles, they have become more prolific in both numbers and perceived authority.
 
I believe the correct term would be an “Ethnic Parish” instead of a Geographic Parish.
We didn’t have parish status. We were a language based faith community with a priest assigned as chaplain. Any sacrament celebrated in our community was recorded in a parish a few blocks away.
 
I got incredibly tired of the phrase “new springtime” long, long ago when all around parishes were closing, seminaries were empty, heresy was being accepted by bishop after bishop, and I started visiting parish after parish just looking for a Mass that just followed the rubrics and finding that to be an exercise in futility. Death and decay does not equal springtime.

Things seem to be improving quite a bit lately. So, it might actually be an appropriate term now. But, now that it seems more appropriate it also seems to be used a lot less. 🤷

James
 
I believe the correct term would be an “Ethnic Parish” instead of a Geographic Parish.
( think I missed a post somewhere.)

Br. Rich,I’m not sure I quite understand your statement; would you please clarify for me after this short story (get a cuppa coffe for this one 😉 ) .

My industrial New England hometown town in its heyday was divided by ethnic ghettos, (mostly by the factories they could get into) except the nouveau riche who lived on Nob Hill and were predominantly Congregationalists.

We had
St. Staninslaus for the Polish,
St.Joseph for the Irish,
St. Anthony for the Italians,
St. Anne’s for the French,
St. Cyril & Methodious for Rusians,
St Demetrios Greek Orthodox Church
Immanual Lutheran for the Germans,
…and the list goes on for other denominations.

This was because each ghetto wanted its own church and to feel connected to the country from which they came. And each church started in a front room (i.e living room), dining room, basement, or someone else’s parish hall, or even just a hall. AND LOOK HOW THEY GREW!

These were expained to me as “ethnic churches,” where the culture (language, food, religious traditons from the ‘old country’ were continued.)

The we had St. Mathew’s and St. Gregory’s, which were the “territotial” churches - for the people who were from “mixed” neighborhoods but wanted to remain Catholic, or became ‘nominal Catholics,’ those who weren’t comfortable with the traditional homilies from the priest, and those who just moved into the neighborhood, but had somehow ‘lost’ their ethnic traditions. (These are the “round” churches, etc. who use the language mentioned above. The ethnic churches seem much more strict.)

I hope this helps. If I am TOTALLY on the wrong page from your comment, please forgive me. :tiphat:
 
( think I missed a post somewhere.)

Br. Rich,I’m not sure I quite understand your statement; would you please clarify for me after this short story (get a cuppa coffe for this one 😉 ) .

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I think he was referring my post where I said I used to belong to a language-based Faith Community. We weren’t a parish.
 
one word that I am tired of is formation, the other is discernment, because both of them are so often applied to situations that are neither. Taking a class does not equal formation, as in a canned bible study or class on teaching methods; nor does making a list of pros and cons to make an ordinary prudential judgment equal not discernment, as in, should we get red or green carpet for the sanctuary
 
I think he was referring my post where I said I used to belong to a language-based Faith Community. We weren’t a parish.
I just edited my post to include the following:
This was because each ghetto wanted its own church and to feel connected to the country from which they came. And each church started in a front room (i.e living room), dining room, basement, or someone else’s parish hall, or even just a hall.)] AND LOOK HOW THEY GREW!
And especially when I see my Vietnamese “family” brethren gather (by the kindness of the local priest) to attend Mass in the lower Church - the same thing goes on…they’re not a genuinre parish yet, but they are a gathering a of the faithful.

(Incidentally, “gathering of the Faithful” is another term I prefer than “Faith Community.”) But that’s not directed at you, Phemie, just thought I’d throw that out there because it fits the topic.

P.S.: I am VERY SORRY that I missed your earlier post. 😦
 
( think I missed a post somewhere.)

Br. Rich,I’m not sure I quite understand your statement; would you please clarify for me after this short story (get a cuppa coffe for this one 😉 ) .

My industrial New England hometown town in its heyday was divided by ethnic ghettos, (mostly by the factories they could get into) except the nouveau riche who lived on Nob Hill and were predominantly Congregationalists.

We had
St. Staninslaus for the Polish,
St.Joseph for the Irish,
St. Anthony for the Italians,
St. Anne’s for the French,
St. Cyril & Methodious for Rusians,
St Demetrios Greek Orthodox Church
Immanual Lutheran for the Germans,
…and the list goes on for other denominations.

This was because each ghetto wanted its own church and to feel connected to the country from which they came. And each church started in a front room (i.e living room), dining room, basement, or someone else’s parish hall, or even just a hall. AND LOOK HOW THEY GREW!

These were expained to me as “ethnic churches,” where the culture (language, food, religious traditons from the ‘old country’ were continued.)

The we had St. Mathew’s and St. Gregory’s, which were the “territotial” churches - for the people who were from “mixed” neighborhoods but wanted to remain Catholic, or became ‘nominal Catholics,’ those who weren’t comfortable with the traditional homilies from the priest, and those who just moved into the neighborhood, but had somehow ‘lost’ their ethnic traditions. (These are the “round” churches, etc. who use the language mentioned above. The ethnic churches seem much more strict.)

I hope this helps. If I am TOTALLY on the wrong page from your comment, please forgive me. :tiphat:
That is an excellent expansion on my condensed comment.
 
…the other is discernment, because both of them are so often applied to situations that are neither…nor does making a list of pros and cons to make an ordinary prudential judgment equal not discernment…
Oy! I had a non-C roommate tell me that he was given the gift of “discernment” regarding my life and that he thought I was on drugs (!!!)…his kind of discernment meant “guesswork.” Gah.
 
I think he was referring my post where I said I used to belong to a language-based Faith Community. We weren’t a parish.
This is very much like what we have today here. A Hispanic Faith Community within the parish. Even though they have different customs and language, they are all members of the one parish. You were all members of the parish where your Sacraments were recorded.
 
one word that I am tired of…is discernment, because both of them are so often applied to situations that are neither…nor does making a list of pros and cons to make an ordinary prudential judgment equal not discernment…
Oy! I had a non-C roommate tell me that he was given the gift of “discernment” regarding my life and that he thought I was on drugs (!!!)…his kind of discernment meant “guesswork.” Gah.

No, I wasn’t, and to clarify. I was worried about my deployed husband and didn’t get out of my initial “slump” yet.
 
I just edited my post to include the following:

And especially when I see my Vietnamese “family” brethren gather (by the kindness of the local priest) to attend Mass in the lower Church - the same thing goes on…they’re not a genuinre parish yet, but they are a gathering a of the faithful.

(Incidentally, “gathering of the Faithful” is another term I prefer than “Faith Community.”) But that’s not directed at you, Phemie, just thought I’d throw that out there because it fits the topic.

P.S.: I am VERY SORRY that I missed your earlier post. 😦
Maybe Cameron can add to this discussion. I do not see where Canon Law allows for an “at large” group of Catholics detached from a parish.
 
Maybe Cameron can add to this discussion. I do not see where Canon Law allows for an “at large” group of Catholics detached from a parish.
When I was in East Lansing, Michigan, I have seen/known the Korean Community to host their own Mass in the side chapel where the Eucharist was kept in repose while outside of Mass.

Korean priest, Korean language, Korean community of the Faithful.

Yes, It would be interesting to know more about this.
 
I am excusing myself from this post for a while because it’s going too quickly for me to keep up. I will check in later.

XOXOXO
-Mis
 
one word that I am tired of is formation, the other is discernment, because both of them are so often applied to situations that are neither. Taking a class does not equal formation, as in a canned bible study or class on teaching methods; nor does making a list of pros and cons to make an ordinary prudential judgment equal not discernment, as in, should we get red or green carpet for the sanctuary
I agree, “formation” is overused. I don’t even know what it means.
Also don’t flame me please, but “stewardship”…Of course I know that way too many people don’t tithe and it’s a serious problem for the Church in general. Some parishes just seem to have more class or more prudence in how they go about addressing the issue…

No matter what the season or feast day, one parish I go to finds a way to incorporate it into an editorial on stewardship in the bulletin. Every single week. I guess what bugs me is this particular parish is bigger, newer and “fancier” than most others in the area, yet they are always hurting for money the most. (I’d personally rather see the restoration of the downtown Cathedral.) And this other parish tends to go overboard with things like (truly beautfiful but) over-the-top Christmas decorations and picnics. You’d think with all the extra tithing they could afford a crucifix for the sanctuary?

I understand that Eucharistic Minister is problematic. But I think it’s used mostly because Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion is more cumbersome to say.

Seems like pretty much everything is a “ministry” nowadays, doesn’t it?
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“Roman Catholic Church” – there is no such thing. See here:
This is my personal pet peeve out of the list. I can’t stand it when people say “Roman Catholic Church.” For some reason it’s* less *annoying when it’s non-Catholics. At least then it’s usually just ignorance or an old habit. But the actual Catholics who call the the Church the RCC, do you notice they tend to say it repetitively?
 
This is very much like what we have today here. A Hispanic Faith Community within the parish. Even though they have different customs and language, they are all members of the one parish. You were all members of the parish where your Sacraments were recorded.
I presume that in your case you all worship at the same church and have separate Mass times.

We had nothing whatsoever to do with the parish, most of the community members (who came from all over the diocese) weren’t even aware that it existed and I doubt that the parish had any idea that we existed. It was classic case of east is east and west is west and never the train shall meet. Everything we did as a faith community was done at the Francophone School & Community Center and we were always identified as “The Francophone Community” in diocesan documents.
 
I am certainly put off by some of the terms mentioned by previous posters. But one of my most unfavorite words in common usage is “fellowship”, which is used both as a verb and a noun. Also “fellowshipping”, which grates on my ears even more.

As near as I can tell, it means “socializing”, though it often seems to be closer to “being courteous while eating indifferent food in a crowd”.
 
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