Silly, meaningless, inaccurate, overused, dumbed-down, erroneous, or self-contradictory buzzwords and phrases

[Phemie]

As near as I can tell, it means “socializing”, though it often seems to be closer to “being courteous while eating indifferent food in a crowd”.

Depends which church you happen to be fellowshipping at. Thanks for the smile.

 

[kristie_m]

Depends which church you happen to be fellowshipping at. Thanks for the smile.

I attended a church once where they did a lot of “fellowshipping” at the “Holy Spirit potlucks.” I’m sorry…does the Holy Spirit really care who brings the fruit salad?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Depends which church you happen to be fellowshipping at. Thanks for the smile.

I’m probably spoiled by my wife’s excellent cooking. But has it ever occurred to anyone that “fellowship” and “fellowshipping” has a sort of, well, paternalistic aura about it? How it has escaped the diocesan “inclusive terminology” people all this time is a mystery. Likely they will wake up one day and change it to “personship” and “personshipping”, though the latter term sounds a little too much like a violation of the Mann Act. So, maybe that’s why “fellowshipping” remains unchanged, though some collective “ministry” has undoubtedly spent a “discernment” session considering it but hasn’t yet come up with a “prophetic” solution.

 

[Brendan]

I understand that Eucharistic Minister is problematic. But I think it’s used mostly because Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion is more cumbersome to say.

Then how about “Extraordinary Minister”

But it cannot be “Eucharistic Minister” unless you are talking about someone who can validly confect the Eucharist.

 

[Phemie]

I have to admit that I have never heard the term used in Catholic parishes I’ve been in, ‘fellowship’ seeming to be a favorite term of our separated brethren around here. I’ve only ever seen the term when something comes in from the various non-Catholic communities inviting us to participate in communal services and to share fellowship

 

[kristie_m]

I’m probably spoiled by my wife’s excellent cooking. But has it ever occurred to anyone that “fellowship” and “fellowshipping” has a sort of, well, paternalistic aura about it? How it has escaped the diocesan “inclusive terminology” people all this time is a mystery. **Likely they will wake up one day and change it to “personship” and “personshipping”, though the latter term sounds a little too much like a violation of the Mann Act. **So, maybe that’s why “fellowshipping” remains unchanged, though some collective “ministry” has undoubtedly spent a “discernment” session considering it but hasn’t yet come up with a “prophetic” solution.

 

[ElizabethPH]

I don’t know that this is necessarily silly, meaningless, inaccurate etc etc. Our priest is not the pastor he is the ‘‘administrator’’. That’s always sort of bothered me. It seems if you don’t have a bishop your priest cannot not be officially be a pastor.

 

[Phemie]

I don’t know that this is necessarily silly, meaningless, inaccurate etc etc. Our priest is not the pastor he is the ‘‘administrator’’. That’s always sort of bothered me. It seems if you don’t have a bishop your priest cannot not be officially be a pastor.

As I understand it they are canonical titles. A Pastor can only be appointed by a diocesan bishop. And a Pastor can only have parochial care of one parish. Thus the priest in our parish was appointed by our bishop as our “Pastor” but he was also appointed “Administrator” for another parish where he acts in all ways as pastor while not being Pastor.

 

[Lepanto]

I understand that Eucharistic Minister is problematic. But I think it’s used mostly because Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion is more cumbersome to say.

Extraordinary minister or EMHC would be the shorter, correct title.

 

[MusicMan]

I’m going to lobby for the term “Communion Distributor” until I have breathed my last.

 

[Lepanto]

I have to admit that I have never heard the term used in Catholic parishes I’ve been in, ‘fellowship’ seeming to be a favorite term of our separated brethren around here. I’ve only ever seen the term when something comes in from the various non-Catholic communities inviting us to participate in communal services and to share fellowship

“seperated brethren” is another one!

They used to be heretics (a technical distinction, not a pejorative), now they are our seperated brethren.

“People of God” is another one that’s beaten to death. Sure, Vat2 uses the term, but it also uses “the faithful,” a much more traditional apellation. “People of God” as opposed to what? The “People of Satan”?

 

[ac_claire]

“seperated brethren” is another one!

They used to be heretics (a technical distinction, not a pejorative), now they are our seperated brethren.

“People of God” is another one that’s beaten to death. Sure, Vat2 uses the term, but it also uses “the faithful,” a much more traditional apellation. “People of God” as opposed to what? The “People of Satan”?

Now you’re just being silly.
Exactly what is wrong with People of God- (which I hardly ever hear, by the way. Usually I hear “The Church” when referring to the faithful.) And heretic, do you really think it would be better for all involved if we brought that back as a general, friendly term for protestants?

 

[Lepanto]

Now you’re just being silly.
Exactly what is wrong with People of God- (which I hardly ever hear, by the way. Usually I hear “The Church” when referring to the faithful.) And heretic, do you really think it would be better for all involved if we brought that back as a general, friendly term for protestants?

Please re-read what I said carefully this time: I said that the word “heretic” is a technical distinction, not a pejorative. Do you disagree with this? Moreover, I didn’t suggest anything about the merits of its use. It is a canonical term, and hence it has its use. There are heretics today – it’s not just a historical term.

And yes, “People of God” is certainly beaten to death, at least around here.

 

[ac_claire]

Please re-read what I said carefully this time: I said that the word “heretic” is a technical distinction, not a pejorative. Do you disagree with this? Moreover, I didn’t suggest anything about the merits of its use. It is a canonical term, and hence it has its use. There are heretics today – it’s not just a historical term.

And yes, “People of God” is certainly beaten to death, at least around here.

On second thought, maybe there is a regional distinction. See where I live, I don’t hear People of God except from Fr. Corapi on the radio. But I do hear (and use) heresy/heretic as a technical distinction. Actually, I hear heresy, not so much heretic. Heretic seems to have become a pejorative term.

 

[ALLGIRLS]

Low and High Mass- as if the Mass has lesser degrees. I believe
the Mass is the Mass. I’m sorry so Jesus had what degree of
Mass, when he insitituted the Eucharist?

Low and High Mass actually refers to the Tridentine Mass (there is no High or Low in the N. O.). I’ve never been to a Tridentine Mass, so I’m not sure of the exact differences, but I think the High Mass is sung, and there’s incense, whereas the Low Mass is spoken w/ no music at all? Hopefully someone who attends Tridentine can clarify, but they are valid terms (but they shouldn’t be used in any way in reference to the N.O. Mass, no matter how “fancy” or “plain” it may be).

In Christ

Ellen

 

[benedictgal]

“seperated brethren” is another one!

They used to be heretics (a technical distinction, not a pejorative), now they are our seperated brethren.

“People of God” is another one that’s beaten to death. Sure, Vat2 uses the term, but it also uses “the faithful,” a much more traditional apellation. “People of God” as opposed to what? The “People of Satan”?

At least Pope Benedict (even as Cardinal Ratzinger) cleared up the “seperated brethren” by calling them what they really are: Protestant ecclesial communities. He does refer to the Orthodox as Sister Churches.

People of God is annoying. Our parish uses that term a lot, a long with the term “faith community” Why can’t we just call ourselves Parish and be done with it? That is what we are.

I miss the days when we were able to call a spade a spade and speak with clarity. All of this politically correct garbage is just that, trash. We need to say what we mean and mean what we say. How can the Church be an effective voice if her membership constantly has to defer to the ever-changing winds of the world? We need consistency!

 

[Miserissima]

[Emphasis mine] At least Pope Benedict (even as Cardinal Ratzinger) cleared up the “seperated brethren” by calling them what they really are:** Protestant ecclesial communities.** He does refer to the Orthodox as Sister Churches.

Most sincerely, I did not know this. And thank you for this information! :tiphat:

I am going to work this phrase (albeit slowly, because I have difficulty remembering such things) ) into my Catholic vocabulary as much as possible. – I’ve been using “seperated bretheren” a lot - esp. 'cause I hear it on CAL.

As a SIDE question, which I do NOT waht to use to derail this great thread…do you think the term ‘seperated brethren’ sounds too…ecumenical?

 

[ac_claire]

What’s wrong with protestant…? It’s classic-- short and to the point.

 

[PatienceAndLove]

Extraordinary minister or EMHC would be the shorter, correct title.

But you say EMHC to someone (esp. an EMHC) and they look at you confusedly.

 

[James0235]

But you say EMHC to someone (esp. an EMHC) and they look at you confusedly.

It does seem that very few Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion realize that they are NOT Eucharistic Ministers. With one exception every single one that I have ever discussed the issue with has gotten really angry and defensive when they are informed of the correct term.

And it certainly doesn’t help matters when they go to the priest to be consoled and he tells them that they most certainly are Eucharistic Ministers.

Of course this is also the same priest who tells people that when Redemptionis Sacramentum says that the use of glass chalices is reprobated that means highly encouraged.

James