Silly question about Ordinary Time

[Bbigam]

Another little correction: January 1, the Octave Day of Christmas, is the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, and not just in some countries. In fact, it’s on the universal list of Holy Days of Obligation, although the obligation is suppressed in many countries.

The Feast of the Circumcision was suppressed back sometime around Vatican II, I don’t know exactly when. It now exists only within the old calendar as used in the Extraordinary Form.

(It may also exist in other Rites like the Byzantine, but I don’t know much about them and their calendars.)

 

[5Loaves]

The Feast of the Circumcision was suppressed back sometime around Vatican II, I don’t know exactly when. It now exists only within the old calendar as used in the Extraordinary Form.

(It may also exist in other Rites like the Byzantine, but I don’t know much about them and their calendars.)

Yes, we Byzantine Catholic churches (not rites) do celebrate the Circumcision of our Lord on Jan. 1. We do not have the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, tho someone may come in and say his church does

 

[Secret_Square]

If I’m not mistaken, from reading my mom’s old pre-Vatican II missals, in the “old” calendar you had the First Sunday after Epiphany, Second Sunday after Epiphany, and so on until you got to the Lenten, or actually pre-Lenten season.

Then after Easter, you had the First Sunday after Easter (commonly known as “Low Sunday” and now called “Divine Mercy Sunday”), Second Sunday after Easter, etc.; and then after Pentecost, every Sunday was counted “after Pentecost.”

The real mystery to me, in the Novus Ordo/Ordinary Form calendar, is that every year after all the Sundays of Lent and the Easter Season end, the Sundays of Ordinary Time never pick up right where they left off. For example, the last Sunday before Lent is usually the 6th or 7th Sunday in Ordinary Time, then after Lent and Easter and Pentecost are done, the count will resume with the 11th or 12th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Even if you count Trinity Sunday and Corpus Christi as part of Ordinary Time (like we do with the Baptism of the Lord), that still doesn’t account for the difference.

 

[Bbigam]

Yes, we Byzantine Catholic churches (not rites) do celebrate the Circumcision of our Lord on Jan. 1. We do not have the Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God, tho someone may come in and say his church does

Yay, I was mostly right! Sorry, I get confused sometimes between “rite” and “church” with regard to the Eastern Catholic Churches. I was thinking that, for example, the Melkite Church used the Byzantine Rite… oh well, someday I’ll get it I guess.

The real mystery to me, in the Novus Ordo/Ordinary Form calendar, is that every year after all the Sundays of Lent and the Easter Season end, the Sundays of Ordinary Time never pick up right where they left off. For example, the last Sunday before Lent is usually the 6th or 7th Sunday in Ordinary Time, then after Lent and Easter and Pentecost are done, the count will resume with the 11th or 12th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Even if you count Trinity Sunday and Corpus Christi as part of Ordinary Time (like we do with the Baptism of the Lord), that still doesn’t account for the difference.

There’s often one week of Ordinary Time that is dropped in order that the 34th week in Ordinary Time always happens, following the Feast of Christ the King and preceding the First Sunday of Advent. I find the page below (and all the lectionary information on that site) to be very helpful.
catholic-resources.org/Lectionary/1998USL-Solemnities.htm

 

[tee_eff_em]

Ordinary TIme starts on the Monday after the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord. Therefore, the Sunday reckoned as the “Second Sunday” in Ordinary Time is really the Sunday that starts the second week of Ordinary Time.

There is no First Sunday in Ordinary Time because OT starts on Monday.

Minor correction: Ordinary Time starts on the *day *after the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord.

This day is …*<ahem>… *ordinarily a Monday, but in the USA and other places places which translate Epiphany to the Sunday between 2 and 8 January, when Epiphany is translated to Sunday the 7th or 8th, the Feast of the Baptism of the Lord is celebrated on the Monday immediately following, and Ordinary Time starts on Tuesday. cf. 2012

tee
Liturgical Calendar Nerd

 

[marytk]

The real mystery to me, in the Novus Ordo/Ordinary Form calendar, is that every year after all the Sundays of Lent and the Easter Season end, the Sundays of Ordinary Time never pick up right where they left off. For example, the last Sunday before Lent is usually the 6th or 7th Sunday in Ordinary Time, then after Lent and Easter and Pentecost are done, the count will resume with the 11th or 12th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Even if you count Trinity Sunday and Corpus Christi as part of Ordinary Time (like we do with the Baptism of the Lord), that still doesn’t account for the difference

]There’s often one week of Ordinary Time that is dropped in order that the 34th week in Ordinary Time always happens, following the Feast of Christ the King and preceding the First Sunday of Advent. I find the page below (and all the lectionary information on that site) to be very helpful.
catholic-resources.org/Lectio…olemnities.htm

Also the Ordinary time starts again the day after Pentecost so that adds another week that the Sunday isn’t counted but Monday will be "Monday of ??week of Ordinary Time)