Sin or Sins?

[onaquest]

In various prayers we pray for our sins to be forgiven. But can’t we pray that our SIN is forgiven? All sins being the result of original sin. Like at mass when we pray “Lamb of God you take away the sin/sins of the world. Have mercy on us”

I’m just wondering the correct way to pray these prayers. I see it that it was one crucifixion that takes away the sin of the world. But I also see that it was many wounds that did that.

Does anyone know the Latin translation to the above part of the mass that I quoted?

It just makes me feel so much more connected to by neighbor to say SIN. I truly feel like I share in their guilt and they carry mine.

 

[baltobetsy]

I don’t have the Latin handy, so I will be not be giving a factual answer, but rather my opinion on this question.

I feel just the opposite concerning this question. To say that God takes away the SIN of the world implies to me that the world is no longer sinful - no one commits sins any longer. As long as people have free will, this will not be the case. The merits of the Cross did not remove our capacity to sin.

To say that God takes away the SINS of the world seems more personal and possible to me. When I commit a sin and am contrite, that sin is taken away through the merits of the Cross. This happens over and over, to everyone who sins and repents.

Betsy

 

[onaquest]

My thought process comes from my share in the sin of Adam–or was that removed through baptism? It’s really only a distraction to me when we pray the Agnus Dei–I wish I knew the translation. When I pray it in English I say sin of the world.

 

[bpbasilphx]

Does anyone know the Latin translation to the above part of the mass that I quoted?

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis. ij

Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.**

 

[peregrinator_it]

Re: sin/sins

“peccata” in Latin is plural; thus the literal translation would be "sins".

However, Latin has a tendency to treat plural neuter nouns (which “peccata” is) as one idea (e.g. castra), so translating peccata as sin would not be unjustified.

I like “sins” better, as, for me, it’s a reminder that Christ’s death paid the penalty for our actual sins as well as freeing us from original sin.

 

[hilde_the_dog]

I just always felt that when we say Sin as in sin of the the world it meant sins. More like if all the sins were united into one Sin. either way does it matter?

 

[Chatter163]

Does anyone know the Latin translation to the above part of the mass that I quoted?

Bear in mind that the Latin text of the Mass is the original. Anything else is a translation, but not the Latin.

 

[LilyM]

I just always felt that when we say Sin as in sin of the the world it meant sins. More like if all the sins were united into one Sin. either way does it matter?

Not so much. But I rather like ‘sin’ - it reminds us of our collective responsibility (to the extent that we stay silent if nothing else) for the sin of those around us.