Singing priest's Hallelujah wows wedding guests

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Why are people so “stunned” if a priest or nun (like the one from the Brit talent show last week) sing well?

Are they supposed to all be bad singers or something?
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Good point. I used to think it was a requirement that they have good voices, especially enough to sing the old High Mass well.

If this were an Italian Mass I would have expected it. 🙂

Seriously, though, it looked like he wanted the focus on himself rather than the bride and groom. Did anyone notice the reaction (laughter) he got just for grimacing? I sort of feel sorry for the bride and groom, the true ministers of a marriage.
 
… I thought it was in extremely poor taste, and he really isn’t that great of a singer. I love the original song by Leonard Cohen, but it’s a rough, sad song - it shouldn’t be changed to a wedding song, for heaven sakes! And I also disliked the way he sang the word “Hallelo-o-o-o-o-oia”, he sounded like a cow or something!:mad: Also he had those sneaky looking eyes…and it was totally inappropriate to do it at the altar! Ha ha I guess I got my rant out.🙂
And I didn’t think it was in extremely poor taste and, in point of fact, he is an absolutely excellent singer. He didn’t sing the Leonard Cohen song; he used the music to that song and created his own lyrics, for heaven sakes! Wow, his vocal range is fabulous, being able to hit that extra high “Hallelujah” part especially well…he sounded like an angel or something!🙂 Filled with love and happiness for the couple, his eyes twinkled with affection and excitement for them. From the famous song:

“When Irish Eyes Are Smiling,
sure 'tis like a morn in spring.
In the lilt of Irish laughter,
you can hear the angels sing.
When Irish hearts are happy,
all the world seems bright and gay,
And When Irish Eyes Are Smiling,
sure, they steal your heart away.”

Hmm-m-m-m-m, guess I got my rant repartee out.😃
 
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Seriously, though, it looked like he wanted the focus on himself rather than the bride and groom. Did anyone notice the reaction (laughter) he got just for grimacing? I sort of feel sorry for the bride and groom, the true ministers of a marriage.
Believe me, the bride and groom loved it, so don’t feel sorry for them. They’re never going to give up going to the Catholic church, because they are going to treasure this special gift Fr. Kelly gave them forever.

By the by, Fr. Kelly was smiling, 😃 not grimacing…you probably didn’t notice the upturned corners of his mouth, or perhaps your screen resolution has eroded. You and many other posters thought he wanted focus on himself, but didn’t realize that the way this was filmed (close up of priest’s head) made you believe that.

The priest was offering a gift to the couple by way of the song. In fact, after the song, he went immediately to concluding prayers, if you watch the last minute of the film. He sang the song about the same time our pastor makes “a few brief announcements” before the dismissal rite, so there’s nothing inappropriate about it.

All you harumph-ers and nay-sayers out there…get a life!
 
The priest was offering a gift to the couple by way of the song. In fact, after the song, he went immediately to concluding prayers, if you watch the last minute of the film. He sang the song about the same time our pastor makes “a few brief announcements” before the dismissal rite, so there’s nothing inappropriate about it.

All you harumph-ers and nay-sayers out there…get a life!
He used the word Alleluia during a Mass during Lent. I don’t care if that one started with H, it’s the same word and we’re not to use it in church during Lent.

He put the focus on himself, and it’s not the first time he’s pulled that stunt at a wedding.

I don’t care how much the couple loved it, it was still highly inappropriate. It’s Mass, not the priest’s personal playground. Do the red, say the black.
 
The germane questions we must ask and will never know are such as these:

Did the priest know he can’t say Alleluia at all during Mass in Lent? If he had heard of this rule, how did it come to him? Was it from a document he read, or was it in a memo from his ordinary? A personal conversation with brother priests?

Did the ordinary expressly forbid him to say Alleluia or sing this song in the Mass? Did the ordinary expressly approve the music and lyrics of this song in advance for use in that Nuptial Liturgy?

Do other priests in the diocese do things like this? What is the ordinary’s overall opinion of those practices? Is he permissive in his liturgical regulation or is he restrictive?

These and other questions and their answers are not excuses for what was done, but they certainly matter in weighing the culpability and the guilt for these supposed but minor sins committed. If the priest was acting in disobedience or defiance, then that’s one thing. If the bishop expressly went along with the idea, then that’s another thing. We can’t know what went on behind the scenes. This is the Internet, where we speculate wildly and come to bizarre conclusions about what really happened. All we have is a video and a news story. Come on, this is a holy priest who leads a parish. He must have done something good in his life. Give him the benefit of the doubt here. It seems to me that he meant well and did his best considering whatever formation and education and guidance he has been given. He’s also a priest of “that certain age”. The priests of the “Spirit of Vatican II”. We don’t have to worry about this generation much longer because they will be replaced by their children, and the zeitgeist is changing. The Biological Solution is working slowly but surely. Pray for this priest, bless him, and others like him, who believe they are doing the work of the Lord.
 
The germane questions we must ask and will never know are such as these:

Did the priest know he can’t say Alleluia at all during Mass in Lent? If he had heard of this rule, how did it come to him? Was it from a document he read, or was it in a memo from his ordinary? A personal conversation with brother priests?
You have got to be kidding!?! What adult Catholic (unless, perhaps a very recent convert) doesn’t know we don’t sing or say “Alleluia” during Lent?

It’s not a new thing and neither is Fr. Kelly so he would be well aware of it. As to how he would know, it’s in the Ordo every year; in the GIRM; in 1987’s Paschale Solemnitatis; in 1969’s General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar. Has it escaped his notice that the Gospel Acclamation is changed at this time of year?
 
Believe me, the bride and groom loved it, so don’t feel sorry for them. They’re never going to give up going to the Catholic church, because they are going to treasure this special gift Fr. Kelly gave them forever.

By the by, Fr. Kelly was smiling, 😃 not grimacing…you probably didn’t notice the upturned corners of his mouth, or perhaps your screen resolution has eroded. You and many other posters thought he wanted focus on himself, but didn’t realize that the way this was filmed (close up of priest’s head) made you believe that.

The priest was offering a gift to the couple by way of the song. In fact, after the song, he went immediately to concluding prayers, if you watch the last minute of the film. He sang the song about the same time our pastor makes “a few brief announcements” before the dismissal rite, so there’s nothing inappropriate about it.

All you harumph-ers and nay-sayers out there…get a life!
Really? On another video, this was preceded by other vocalists who sang just as much if not more beautifully. (I believe it was “Make Us True Servants” in Irish.) Why no applause for them?
 
:eek: Oh the horrors! A priest actually said (sang) Halleluia during Lent and Armageddon is upon us.

Over 1800 viewers of this thread to date, surely among them some who come here to learn more about the Catholic Church in their personal journey for the true faith. I wonder how many have said “nah, guess I need to look elsewhere”.
 
And I didn’t think it was in extremely poor taste and, in point of fact, he is an absolutely excellent singer. He didn’t sing the Leonard Cohen song; he used the music to that song and created his own lyrics, for heaven sakes! Wow, his vocal range is fabulous, being able to hit that extra high “Hallelujah” part especially well…he sounded like an angel or something!🙂 Filled with love and happiness for the couple, his eyes twinkled with affection and excitement for them. From the famous song:

“When Irish Eyes Are Smiling,
sure 'tis like a morn in spring.
In the lilt of Irish laughter,
you can hear the angels sing.
When Irish hearts are happy,
all the world seems bright and gay,
And When Irish Eyes Are Smiling,
sure, they steal your heart away.”

Hmm-m-m-m-m, guess I got my rant repartee out.😃
There’s no accounting for taste! I guess we both are entitled to our own opinions.😛
 
You have got to be kidding!?! What adult Catholic (unless, perhaps a very recent convert) doesn’t know we don’t sing or say “Alleluia” during Lent?

It’s not a new thing and neither is Fr. Kelly so he would be well aware of it. As to how he would know, it’s in the Ordo every year; in the GIRM; in 1987’s Paschale Solemnitatis; in 1969’s General Norms for the Liturgical Year and the Calendar. Has it escaped his notice that the Gospel Acclamation is changed at this time of year?
I didn’t know. 😦 And I am not a very recent convert.
See my signature. I was really beating myself up about not knowing, then someone pointed out to me how much studying of Catholicism I’ve actually done. Thus the signature.
Sometimes we miss things. 🤷

When a person knows everything there is to know about the faith, then I think they perhaps can judge others who don’t yet know everything. No offense, but there is a lot to learn, even for cradle Catholics.

God bless.
 
I might be wrong, but I think the original video is here: youtube.com/watch?v=XYKwqj5QViQ
The church’s furnishings and appointments are gorgeous! Top-notch! Tabernacle front-and-center and there’s an ablution cup near it. I wish my parish could afford that stuff. Ours is glass. (the ablution cup, not the tabernacle.)

Someone should organize an EF Mass in this place! Using the freestanding altar ad orientem, of course.

I guess the singing Reverend is the Parish Priest and not Associate?

What is that elevated platform that’s visible twice, just before 4:55?
 
Someone should organize an EF Mass in this place! Using the freestanding altar ad orientem, of course.
Judging from the side altar at the very beginning, my guess is that at some point there were many EF’s here, before some wrecking ball put an end to it.
 
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w, this son of the Church receives more positivity on FB and YouTube than on a Catholic forum!

I guess I am not surprised.
 
What is that elevated platform that’s visible twice, just before 4:55?
I’m almost certain I’ve seen one of those in one of the old churches here in Detroit. I don’t know what they’re called, but I faintly remember a homily or something being preached from one of those.
 
There is a beautiful book by Benedict XVI “Spirit of the Liturgy” stressing what mass is all about… Mass is the highest form of prayer and should be focus on God … worshiping God according to GOD’S RULES. We have to be careful about creating “church of nice” when people become priorities and everything evolves around “humans feeling good”, instead of our Lord being in the center of attention. This entire incident struck me as too much about people. At the same time… there are worse liturgical abuses in our church than this one.

The reason, in my opinion, why that video become so popular on internet is exactly the outcome of selfish, modern society, looking for the entertainment and feeling good. This has nothing to do with true worship of God.
This response is also to the person who complains, how people who have some interest in catholic church would be turned away by some comments in this threat. Again… our religion focuses on God, not on people feeling nice.
 
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w, this son of the Church receives more positivity on FB and YouTube than on a Catholic forum!

I guess I am not surprised.
Perhaps it’s because the Catholics and not the world understand the true purpose of the Mass.
No one is arguing against worshiping God by singing in church. Issue is …Did in that particular case, singing performed to worship God, or pleasing people, or even worse… priest pleasing himself.
Let’s see…… clapping, whistling and did you catch the ***standing ovation ***by some in the congregation (look at the video in post #6 – around the 4:45 mark) They certainly weren’t cheering for God or the Sacrament.
Watching it, it felt like he was doing it for attention - making it about him instead of the bride and groom and the sacrament. The interviews I’ve read have not moved me off of that opinion.
A discerning post - at that point, he became the object of the event which then turned it into the theme of a concert.
Why would it be acceptable at all? There is no provision for singing to the couple at a Nuptial Mass. Even if it’s a Nuptial Mass it’s still about praising and thanking God. And for the priest to do so is over the top.
You have it, Phemie! How easy it is to turn our attention toward the things that tintillate and entertain.
 
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