Sinners Prayer

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I posted a couple weeks ago about how I have been on this see-saw for the past 11 years in and out of the Catholic church. Having been raised a Catholic I really don’t know much of WHY Catholic’s do what they do, I simply always just did as I was told. Quite honestly, I didn’t consider myself a Christian until I “accepted Jesus into my heart”.

My aunt (which you could honestly say is more of a grandmother to me than a aunt) is nearing death. It could be tonight that she leaves her body behind. This is the saddest news I am having to deal with, and to be completely honest, I am taking this very hard. I have been through many many deaths through my life, but in my adulthood, this is probably going to be one of the hardest. When her health started really fading last week I picked up my rosaries and began praying for her, asking for Mary’s intercession. I never really knew how to pray the rosary with the various mysteries, but I let the focus of my prayer be for my aunt. Tonight I went to Mass for her, I haven’t gone to Mass in a year or so.

The last time I went to Mass I remember just being so judgemental and looking for “errors” in the Catholic Mass. I didn’t even feel like I was there, it felt more like an out of body experiance than my really being there. Tonight when I went I really (for the first time in 11 years) saw the Mass for the beauty it truly is, how very Christ centered it is. Why hadn’t I seen this before?

It was through the death of my mother-in-law that I left the Catholic church. I couldn’t agree with “the church” that salvation can’t be found outside of her. My mother-in-law was a dear godly woman who centered her life on Christ, her faith in Him was evident in her everyday life.

It very well may be through the death of my aunt that I am led home to the Catholic church…though…I won’t say that just yet.

You see, I can’t for 1 second believe that just because my aunt hasn’t read a bible nor has she prayed a specific “sinners prayer” accepting Jesus into her heart, that I am not going to see her in heaven some day. I can’t believe that. She is a godly Catholic Christian woman who spends nearly 3 hours each day praying for people who ask for her prayer. This isn’t a quality that non-Christians possess. I know that it isn’t for me to decide who is a true Christian and who isn’t, but at the same time I can no longer accept that one has to say a “sinners prayer accepting the Lord into their heart” in order to be saved. Does that make sense? Thanks for listening to my ramblings…
 
Dear JOL, wonderful that you are feeing drawn back to the Church through this sad event. My sympathy for your sadness over your Aunt.

Sadly, your reason for leaving the church wasn’t correct. "It was through the death of my mother-in-law that I left the Catholic church. I couldn’t agree with “the church” that salvation can’t be found outside of her. My mother-in-law was a dear godly woman who centered her life on Christ, her faith in Him was evident in her everyday life.

That is a misunderstanding of the truth that may be believed by some Catholics, but isn’t the true teaching of the Church. If you read the Vatican 2 documents you will discover that although the Catholic Church has the fullness, the other Christian churches are regarded by the Church as part of the Body of Christ. If anyone honestly and sincerely do not believe, but they live according to gospel values, of course they are saved, and considered saved by the Church! I am so sorry that this misunderstanding that was formerly sometimes expressed or taught, caused you to leave the Sacraments. Welcome back! I praise and thank God for the gift of you! I thank Him for His gifts to you also.
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Jesus gave us the Church and we can’t dismiss it’s great value because He who is fully God and fully man, gave us this gift.

What is essential to salvation is Jesus, that He lived and died and rose again for our salvation…for the salvation of every person. If in honesty and sincerity they find themselves unable to believe but live good Christian lives, Jesus tells us in Matthew chapter 25, verses 31 to 46, what the truth is, what God’s truth is concerning this! So there you are dear friend. God bless you, Trishie
 
I’m so sorry to hear about your Aunt. I know it’s very hard to loose someone so dear to you. She sounds like my Grandmother. She was always in prayer, always ready to help and so sweet.
I’m sure your Aunt was praying for you too…to come home to the Catholic Church and to really explore what it really teaches. She is leaving you a great gift of how to stay close to God. Don’t pass it up.
Take care.
 
**I didn’t consider myself a Christian until I “accepted Jesus into my heart”. **

Can you please tell me where the Bible says "accept Jesus in your heart, “personal Savior,” and other phrases dear to pop-evangelicals?
 
Sadly, your reason for leaving the church wasn’t correct. "It was through the death of my mother-in-law that I left the Catholic church. I couldn’t agree with “the church” that salvation can’t be found outside of her. My mother-in-law was a dear godly woman who centered her life on Christ, her faith in Him was evident in her everyday life.
That was not the only or main reason I left the Church, it was the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak. The reason I left (I have learned) is my own lack of understanding on what the Church teaches and my ignorance for finding out. I easily bought in to the protestant propoganda…easily.
 
I’m so sorry to hear about your Aunt. I know it’s very hard to loose someone so dear to you. She sounds like my Grandmother. She was always in prayer, always ready to help and so sweet.
I’m sure your Aunt was praying for you too…to come home to the Catholic Church and to really explore what it really teaches. She is leaving you a great gift of how to stay close to God. Don’t pass it up.
Take care.
Oh yes, I know she prays for me, and you may be right on the emphasis of her prayer. We are connected spiritually…if you believe in that type of thing.
 
**I didn’t consider myself a Christian until I “accepted Jesus into my heart”. **

Can you please tell me where the Bible says "accept Jesus in your heart, “personal Savior,” and other phrases dear to pop-evangelicals?
I believe this idea comes from here:

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
 
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**I didn’t consider myself a Christian until I “accepted Jesus into my heart”. **

Can you please tell me where the Bible says "accept Jesus in your heart, “personal Savior,” and other phrases dear to pop-evangelicals?
I believe this idea comes from here:

Mark 16:16
Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.**

**In neither of these passages do we find the words “accept Jesus” and “personal Savior.”

I’m asking not for where the idea comes from, but from where these pop-evangelical formulae are in the Bible.**
 
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