Small changes to novus ordo

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I was wondering, what small changes to the novus ordo, that you think the average Sunday mass in the US could easily incorporate, do you think would be appropriate?

My ideas: (1)Ad oriens for certain parts of the Mass where the priest is addressing God. (2)Communion rail (which doesn’t have to be a physical rail if finances are bad) and kneeling for species of bread, but perhaps not wine (which could be offered at either end of the rail, thus giving people a choice without peer pressure about standing or kneeling). (3) Agnus Dei in Latin and Kyrie in Greek. (4) An explicit encouragement to beat the breast at the mea culpa, and to bow at the incarnation in the credo. (5) While not eliminating tabernacles from their current locations where they are not behind the altar, ADDING a tabernacle behind the altar (which can be simple if finances are bad).

Those are my 5 ideas, what are yours?

EDIT: Most important. 15 mins for Confession before every Mass!
 
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Your changes mostly fall under furnishings, which are not part of the missal, and options already available in the ordinary form. Confessions before Mass are also not part of the missal and would require additional priests.

What did your pastor say when you suggested he implement your preferred options in your parish?
 
It is called the Ordinary Form and not NO.

As I am not in the US I am not going to respond about your ideas or have ideas regarding how the Mass is celebrated in a country where I have not been to Mass.
 
I agree with your suggestions. I’d add:
Altar boys only.
Plainchant and polyphony.
Insist that socializing in the nave cease.
Just for starters.😎
 
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Forgive me. I am just looking for good ideas to add to the average US celebration of Mass.
 
On socializing in the nave, a fine idea, but what would be an unobtrusive way to implement such a thing?
 
Pastors have to (gently) lay down the law. This might take time and frequent reminders. They could also consistently set an example themselves, demonstrating that the nave does not become a profane space nor does Christ disappear from the Tabernacle the moment Mass ends.
 
It occurs to me that leading people in a rosary or novena or some similar optional devotion before and after the mass might dissuade people from fraternizing in the nave
 
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11101 said:
I was wondering, what small changes to the novus ordo, that you think the average Sunday mass in the US could easily incorporate, do you think would be appropriate?

My ideas: (1)Ad oriens for certain parts of the Mass where the priest is addressing God. (2)Communion rail (which doesn’t have to be a physical rail if finances are bad) and kneeling for species of bread, but perhaps not wine (which could be offered at either end of the rail, thus giving people a choice without peer pressure about standing or kneeling). (3) Agnus Dei in Latin and Kyrie in Greek. (4) An explicit encouragement to beat the breast at the mea culpa, and to bow at the incarnation in the credo. (5) While not eliminating tabernacles from their current locations where they are not behind the altar, ADDING a tabernacle behind the altar (which can be simple if finances are bad).

Those are my 5 ideas, what are yours?

EDIT: Most important. 15 mins for Confession before every Mass!
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Oh my lands!!! ALL WOULD BE AMAZING. We actually drive 40 minutes for a parish with kneelers for communion and some of what you mention! Confession before mass and a way to kneel are my top 2! It’s so hard to kneel in parishes that don’t offer a kneeler because you don’t know how the priest will react. A friend of mine had a bad experience.

Also doctrinally sound Anglican hymns instead of 60s and 70s folk music would be nice. Also, organ and no guitars! My pref.
 
I am mostly on board, but I have attended Catholic Churches, where they used a sort of worship band format, and used doctrinally substantial lyrics, and the people did participate.

What do you make of that?
 
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I agree with your suggestions. I’d add:
Altar boys only.
Plainchant and polyphony.
Insist that socializing in the nave cease.
Just for starters.😎
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The parish we drive to has “Knights of the Altar!” It is amazing!!
 
Also to HIGHLIGHT the fact that “participation” should be offering yourself wholly as a sacrifice to God the Father, in union with Our Lord Jesus Christ. To carry your cross as a true Christian. Since ya know, to love God is to sacrifice and obey His commandments…
 
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Our parish already does 3 (for the Agnus Dei), 4, 5.

As for the some of the other posters’ suggestions, maybe check an EF parish.

And let’s stick to using OF instead of novus ordo. Otherwise, people might get the notion this is a thread to bash the Ordinary Form.
 
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Non-denominational megachurches do that too and arguably do it better.
 
It’s a shame what the 1960s and 1970s did to our culture as a whole…
 
I don’t see that as much of an argument against it. Not that I assume that you were making an argument against it.
 
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The arguments for only boys serving at the altar have been well elucidated by Cardinal Sarah and others. I find these arguments compelling. The only argument for girl altar servers stems from feminism.
 
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The arguments for only boys serving at the altar have been well elucidated by Cardinal Sarah and others. I find these arguments compelling. The only argument for girl altar servers stems from feminism.
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. The arguments against girls serving are lame. Always have been, always will be.

And if advocating for girl servers makes me a feminist, then bring it on, baby.
 
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