I would make it a mortal sin for folk to keep on harping about the changes they want in the Mass in whatever form it is celebrated ,
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angel12
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Not in my parish. And if a boy is âchased awayâ by the fact that girls can also serve, it doesnât seem to me heâd be a very good priest. Priests have to work with both the men and the women in the parishes they serve
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11101
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HA! thanks Rob. While a very funny comment, I donât know that saying there should be more confession times for example, or even ideas to cultivate greater affection for the eucharist among a laity that denies the real presence, is a totally unconstructive thing to think about.
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Beryllos
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Those looking to offend may offend themselves. They are the ones I would worry about.
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11101
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If you offend a fencer, the fencer might take offense at your fencingâŚno offense.
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Fauken
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A small change? Merge the calendars. Bring back the ember days, septuagesima and sexaagesima, restore Saints back to their old feast days while incorporating the feast days of newer Saints like St. Teresa of Calcutta. The discrepancy of the calendars is very annoying.
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11101
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ember days are a lost devotion yes. even if they werenât mandatory, letting people know about them is important.
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on_the_hill
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Talk about Catholic guilt.
True storyâMy middle daughter is 16. Once when she was 9 years old we were driving to meet with our parish priest for my sonâs First Communion. She asked why I was stressed about being late for the meting. That led to my describing to her how busy priests areâthat their lives involve a whole lot more work than Sunday Mass. At the end, she asked, âAre women allowed to be priests?â
I thought for a moment, because I didnât want to present it to her in a way that would elicit negative feelings
from her. Finally, I just answered, âNo, they canât.â
She replied, âGood. Because I donât want to be one.â
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on_the_hill
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I donât know a whole lot about what Church was like pre-Vatican II, aside from what Iâve read online. My parents never really talked about it.
However, my mom mentioned once how there were certain times of the year when it seemed they were in Church nearly every day of the week. (It was Immaculate Heart of Mary on Polish Hillâeveryone lived close enough to walk).
However, my mom mentioned once how there were certain times of the year when it seemed they were in Church nearly every day of the week. (It was Immaculate Heart of Mary on Polish Hillâeveryone lived close enough to walk).
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on_the_hill
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Some may even be offended on behalf of those who were offended but unaware of it.
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11101
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O, fending off defenestration, offends the fenstrator, for officially, the fenstrator fences offending offenders, for offensive cause.
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Beryllos
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Iâm trying to figure out if I should be offended by that. 
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Fauken
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This post makes me feel pensive. 
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11101
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Hey. Thatâs offensive
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MagdalenaRita
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That is good that you have altar boys at your parish.You must have a good priest who maybe reaches out to the young men, encouraging them to be altar boys.
We have good priests at the parishes around us but we just donât have many altar boys. A few. Mostly altar girls and little girls too. Some can barely see over the altar. The boys are all sitting in the pews at Mass.
âchased awayâ probably wasnât the best words for me to use. Maybe it would be better to say, not encouraged or turned off. Most young males facing peer pressure in their school age years usually do not want to be seen doing something that might appear feminine or girlish. It really wouldnât be any determination on their ability to be a priest. At that age that would be difficult to determine.
The more we say it is okay for girls to be serving at the altar, because women served Jesus when He was on Earth and the more we put girls at the altar and leave the males sitting in the pews rather than encouraging them to serve, the more we are saying to them, it is a girls job.
Without young men being encouraged to the priesthood, the fewer priests we have. Fewer priests, fewer opportunities to receive the Eucharist.
That is true and as young men grow up they will learn to do that, whereever they work.
God bless
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edtaylor51
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Iâd move the Our Father and sign of peace somewhere else, I donât like that it breaks up the kneeing and praying before the Eucharist.
And Iâd tell people to mind their own business about those of us who like to receive in the hand, Iâm sketchy about people putting their fingers in my mouth, donât @ me.
And Iâd tell people to mind their own business about those of us who like to receive in the hand, Iâm sketchy about people putting their fingers in my mouth, donât @ me.
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prayerrider
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âThe best defense is a good offense.â
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WingsOfEagles
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I donât see why it would be seen as girly just because girls do it too. I grew up in a parish where servers were pretty equally split. Any active family in the parish pretty much had there children serving. Itâs parenting and how itâs presented in CCD too.angel12:
That is good that you have altar boys at your parish.You must have a good priest who maybe reaches out to the young men, encouraging them to be altar boys.
We have good priests at the parishes around us but we just donât have many altar boys. A few. Mostly altar girls and little girls too. Some can barely see over the altar. The boys are all sitting in the pews at Mass.
âchased awayâ probably wasnât the best words for me to use. Maybe it would be better to say, not encouraged or turned off. Most young males facing peer pressure in their school age years usually do not want to be seen doing something that might appear feminine or girlish. It really wouldnât be any determination on their ability to be a priest. At that age that would be difficult to determine.
The more we say it is okay for girls to be serving at the altar, because women served Jesus when He was on Earth and the more we put girls at the altar and leave the males sitting in the pews rather than encouraging them to serve, the more we are saying to them, it is a girls job.
Without young men being encouraged to the priesthood, the fewer priests we have. Fewer priests, fewer opportunities to receive the Eucharist.
That is true and as young men grow up they will learn to do that, whereever they work.
God bless
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prayerrider
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In all seriousness, that is an excellent illustration of where a lot of the âwe must have women priestsâ noise comes from. Itâs not because there are all these women who feel a call to the priesthood (leaving aside that such a call cannot come from God). Itâs feminism and a fundamental misunderstanding that God made men and women equal but also very different. I think that is the true meaning of complementary.
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MagdalenaRita
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Wow, that is really awesome that you had some altar boys also. Maybe it is where I live but I just donât see many altar boys. There are large families in the parishes (we have 3 parishes combined together and then at times I go into the city and attend Mass there) but it is their daughters up at the altar not their sons. In my extended family, nieces served at the altar but the boys were like, ânoâ. Unfortunately I am a revert and my family was older when we all returned to the Church, so the males had very little time at the altar before going off to college, so I missed some opportunities also.
It never used to be seen as âgirlyâ because the altar boys were there in hopes that it would encorage them to be priests. They were taught what the priesthood was. That it was a vocation only for a man but now as more and more girls are up there, and in some places like mine, little girls, fewer and fewer young males are encouraged or want to serve. Parishes need to fill the Sunday schedule, and they are putting little importance on getting males up there. Plus again, as we keep repeating that women served Jesus so why canât girls be up there, it starts sounding more and more like a girls job to young men, young men who have sports competing for their time.
If it was just me saying this, I would say maybe I am wrong but many younger priests are starting to realize this is an issue and are trying to bring in more males. Sadly they get a lot of push back from the parishioners but again, no priests, no Eucharist.
God bless.
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