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Path_Finder
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Whatever it is about this cited website, it was well reported in the news that Pope Pius XII said He Himself witnessed a vision of the Miracle of the Sun in the Vatican.
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Path_Finder
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shrineofsaintjude.net/home1341.html
Excellent photos of the crowd on this webpage.
One I had never seen before, the big one on the upper page, it’s Portugal because the hat is of the style they wear there (or did wear). It serves no real purpose to post the picture unless someone just can not open the webpage, I would post it.
Excellent photos of the crowd on this webpage.
One I had never seen before, the big one on the upper page, it’s Portugal because the hat is of the style they wear there (or did wear). It serves no real purpose to post the picture unless someone just can not open the webpage, I would post it.
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SilverAvenger
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Yep, those are the 1920’s hats, alright. Nobody wears them arround here thise days.
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Path_Finder
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The hat I mean and I have seen them more from Portugal but also some other Europeans have worn them are like this as on one coat of arms for the country of Argentina. I don’t know what these kinds of caps is probably a better word are called.
Slightly off topic but these kinds of caps seemed very common over there, I don’t know about nowadays.
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Memaw
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Yes they were but they say Her on the 15th. God Bless, Memaw
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JohnR77
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So this website tells me I cannot trust the Vatican Website.
Give me a break.
shrineofsaintjude.net/home1330.html#The%20Results%20of%20a%20Scientific%20Study
Further, it is my opinion that the number of differences noted in my comparison indicates that it is unlikely the Questioned Document “Third Secret” the Four-Page Document the Vatican released] was written by the same person who authored the purported known writings by Sister Lucy.
Further, it is my opinion that the number of differences noted in my comparison indicates that it is unlikely the Questioned Document “Third Secret” the Four-Page Document the Vatican released] was written by the same person who authored the purported known writings by Sister Lucy.
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Memaw
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They probably could have, but they were “expecting” a miracle and who wold run from that, no matter how awe inspiring. Maybe that was another miracle in itself. Many thought the world was ending. Where would you run to!! God Bless. Memaw
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Path_Finder
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Give me a break, so you are saying this picture is NOT valid. Kindly submit your evidence that this picture is not authentic and without a google similar picture search please guide me to another source that has the same photo.
(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
Are you saying this photo is not authentic?? I guess if we are to use bandwidth to please you, so will do.
You will note, I mentioned nothing at all about the contents of that website, I don’t think anything on that specific webpage is against Vatican teaching as well. Give me a break, I see that the website referenced the Consecration of Russia. I didn’t know beyond holding opinion the website said not to trust Vatican teaching.
I believe someone only referenced this picture not readily found anywhere else and perhaps being in India or perhaps they are in the old Portuguese colonized part of India, they have some artifacts of the Fatima event we do not.
I note, you reference a webpage that I did not cite. Give me a break, no one expects someone to go hunting down a webpage. Even if I had just posted the photo for discussion, it could still be tracked down to that website and one could say the same things.
If your reason is that we can not use to photo not shown anywhere else because a webpage that one did not cite even is being used to be critical of something that has nothing to do with the photo, so be it. This does not seem reasonable.
I’m not even sure your statement that is saying these people are telling us not to trust the Vatican is correct. It seems you are saying that one can’t even post some counter-opinion in a website. Give me a break, I use a webpage to merely show a picture, you pick some webpage that I’m not using and then seem to speak of them saying they do not trust the Vatican on the basis of posting some handwriting analysis. This does not seem fair.
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People are old enough to judge things for themselves, I note early in the thread a “book” to read by link was posted and nothing was said. The book story was probably still correct in large part even if it came from an organization some would question.
For all that we know, the photo above may well come from I believe it is called Goa India, Portuguese colonized India so it appears quite possible that almost 100 years after Fatima, there are still some photos of that day in the Cova da Iria we still have not seen. In India, they may have had access to some of these pictures, really pretty remarkable.
For all that we know, the photo above may well come from I believe it is called Goa India, Portuguese colonized India so it appears quite possible that almost 100 years after Fatima, there are still some photos of that day in the Cova da Iria we still have not seen. In India, they may have had access to some of these pictures, really pretty remarkable.
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graciew
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We call it Phrygian cap.
It is a symbol for freedom.
Here is Wikipedia .
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap
Have a nice day!
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Path_Finder
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Oh dear, wikipedia has articles on all kinds of articles on subjects I won’t mention. Maybe that website can’t be used!We call it Phrygian cap.
It is a symbol for freedom.
Here is Wikipedia .
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phrygian_cap
Have a nice day!
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graciew
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I apologize then.Oh dear, wikipedia has articles on all kinds of articles on subjects I won’t mention. Maybe that website can’t be used!
I have studied it in Spanish when we look into our history.You may look for info where you find suitable. If you wish.
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fred_conty
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Where would they run to? Everything was in the open and there was very little of anything to hide under.
May God our Father give you grace and peace.
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SilverAvenger
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That sort of hat is called a “Barrete”. It’s nowdays only used by recreational dancers and bull wrestlers, [In Portuguise, Pegadores de Touros or Forcados].
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Forcado_numa_Pega_de_Caras_no_Campo_Pequeno.jpg(image larger than 4096KB)
Here, you can see the cap in the Forcado and in the shoulder of the outfit. There’s a black version also, which is the one you see in the images, which is the Fisherman’s Barrete, used more on the near sea areas.
The Barrete shows in the coart of arms of Argentina because a significant part of Argentinian territory once belonged to Portugal, but was given to Spanish rule after the Tordesilhas treaty. It’s not exactly a phrygian cap, but it’a a descendant of the original phrygian caps brought to this area by the roman freed slaves, who were allowed to wear them to state that they were free men.
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JohnR77
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Greetings Path_Finder,
My complaint was not against you or your picture.
Actually, i enjoyed looking at the picture. My complaint is against the webmaster.
It is reasonable to assume the Vatican website posts material consistent with the views of the Holy Father.
Sister Lucia took an oath of obedience to the Church, and by extension to the Pope.
Not everyone had access to her as she was a cloistered nun.
However, it is certain that the Pope did have the resources to communicate with her.
The same cannot be said for others who claim to have evidence that
she said that the consecration of 1984 did not fulfill Mary’s wishes.
Pope Benedict XVI, previous to being the Pope,
revealed the Third Secret as it is published as it is here
defendingthebride.com/ss/day/cont.html
Since, my making of that web page the Vatican published their own web page here
doctrinafidei.va/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html
So, I updated my page with appropriate links.
It is not reasonable to assume that the Pope, or by extension the Vatican Website publisher :
A. Did not have the resources to contact Sister Lucia while she was alive. or
B. That they did not correctly understand her position. or
C. That they Misrepresent her position, or
D. That they intentionally are deceiving others on both what the
Third Secret consisted of and what
Sister Lucia said about affirming the the consecration of March 25, 1984 as
fulfilling Mary’s request at Fatima
Yet, does not a person have to hold one of these above assumptions to believe the claims of the website i objected to ?
I don’t consider this just to be a matter of opinion on which good Catholics can differ.
Sorry, i was not more clear on my previous post. Again, Path Finder,
my objection is not against you or your picture or your post, just against that website.
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NormalBeliever
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Well,sorry if I seemed to ignore your argument.But I really wanted these defenses of Fatima to be strong so that is why I might have entered the speculation domain and might have thought about this so much I simply made a mistake.
Eitherway,thanks for clarifying this to me.
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Goya
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I believe someone answered this upthread–rhetorically:
Run…where??? The WORLD is [perceived to be] coming to an end…what…you’re going to run to the moon? Mars?? Venus??? Running might not even be a cumpulsory reaction–perhaps natural–to some–but not necessarily to all.
…and then everything cleared up. It was a matter of minutes.
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JohnR77
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Thanks for the explanation.
Good Job. Together we can promote God and how He works through Mary and Fatima.
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livingthedream2
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interesting to see – the modern version of the miracle of the sun,
like in (megegorie) u tube-- watch the spinning orb
that as occured in different places –
but there is a speculation that it was a UFO
Everyone has heard by now about the miracle of the sun at Fatima.But…I have a question.
What REALLY happened there?
The sun danced.But really…
there has been – reports of UFO’s that are huge–
or how about – Mike Hoggard, American Goddess: The Hidden Secret Inside The Statue of Liberty
youtu.be/c3G1egW-wrw
like in (megegorie) u tube-- watch the spinning orb
that as occured in different places –
but there is a speculation that it was a UFO
Everyone has heard by now about the miracle of the sun at Fatima.But…I have a question.
What REALLY happened there?
The sun danced.But really…
there has been – reports of UFO’s that are huge–
or how about – Mike Hoggard, American Goddess: The Hidden Secret Inside The Statue of Liberty
youtu.be/c3G1egW-wrw
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NormalBeliever
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I have now another speculation:Thanks for the explanation.
Good Job. Together we can promote God and how He works through Mary and Fatima.
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In some pictures we have people who look into the sun putting their hands above their eyes as if to shield them from the sun.This contradicts the fact witnesses said it did not hurt their eyes to look at the sun
Please answer this speculation for me.This is the last speculation I have.Thanks.
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