Smoking is a Mortal Sin...!

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Why did you post that link with this thread when it does not say smoking is a mortal sin?

According to some been alive is a mortal sin because we damage the planet just by existing, the idea about smoking is right in that league in my opinion.

Worrying about your health is a mortal sin as it is a denial of the Trust one should have in God! Which is break of the first commandment. See how much fun this game is 😉
 
I want nothing to do with the pagan cult of health promulgated by the secular society of today. I am smoking as I type this in defiance of the tyranny!
It’s posts like this that make me wish for a “like” button. 👍
 
hhmm so all those times I smoked a cigarret to impress some girls I commited sin? Darn!
I do occasionally enjoy the cigar.
But did you REALLY impress any girls by smoking? If they kissed you it would have been like licking an ashtray!:rolleyes:
 
The Catholic Church has never said smoking is a mortal sin, or even sinful, although it can be. In which case, why care what some poster or blog says. We should listen to the Catholic Church instead.
Listening to the Church rather than some random person on the Internet? That’s a novel idea. 😛
 
Anybody got a light? :hey_bud:

It is my understanding that Blessed Pope John XXIII smoked a pack of Turkish cigarettes daily.
 
But did you REALLY impress any girls by smoking? If they kissed you it would have been like licking an ashtray!:rolleyes:
Look relax I smoke ocassionally it was rare that I would smoke by myself. I don’t do it anymore in face I havn’t done it in many years. I smoke cigar but thats also very rare.
 
Why did you post that link with this thread when it does not say smoking is a mortal sin?
Tobacco is a drug. The site claims that the use of drugs are harmful to the body, so it’s pretty obvious that not only is it a form of gluttany, it is actually a mortal sin, because I’m killing myself… Slowly.
According to some been alive is a mortal sin because we damage the planet just by existing, the idea about smoking is right in that league in my opinion.

Worrying about your health is a mortal sin as it is a denial of the Trust one should have in God! Which is break of the first commandment. See how much fun this game is 😉
This is wrong. Our bodies are the temples of our souls, just like the Church is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Why do you think the Church uses the relics of Saints…? Because our body’s hold a connection to our souls.
 
I tend to think that smoking is a disordered attachment, but hardly a grave matter. There is a distinction between imperfections, bad habits, etc. and lacking holiness!

Divorced from morality for the sake of argument, it seems that smoking is disordered in the same way masturbation is disordered. Both are done for self-pleasure, whereas the central tenet of true Christian self-love is to “deny” yourself so you may grow and see that true pleasure rests in God, not in our manufactured worldly things. If smoking is a way of laying down the cross you are ordered to take up, it is certainly against the very order of Christ to smoke. How can it be called anything other than masturbation, in fact? Sharing a cigarette is merely mutual masturbation.

You may call me a puritan, and sarcastically compare smoking to drinking wine or eating chocolate, but those are actually very different. I support wine and chocolate, because they are at least forms of drink and food. They can be legitimately shared as sustenance in community and by oneself, because they are of the form and matter of food and drink. They make ordered use of the digestive and oral faculties which God has endowed us with. Smoking, on the other hand, is a disordered use of the breathing and oral faculties. Our lips and lungs exist to facilitate the entrance of air and food and drink and other essential things.

A cigarette is not even close to proper sustenance, except for some psychological fix. From what I can see, it is the sort of spiritual imperfection and bad habit that makes a man less able to immediately enter Heaven, as an undue attachment. The matter of the health of the act is, itself, secondary. We’re talking about the spirit. It is true that “what goes into a man is not the measure of what defiles him”, but “what comes from his heart”; however, the heart may express its disordered attachments and imperfections by the intake of non-essential pleasures.

I bitterly weep and cry over the souls who have to experience one more second of purgation just because they had to have puffs - neither food, nor drink, but mere habitus, mere mollities. 😦
 
I want nothing to do with the pagan cult of health promulgated by the secular society of today. I am smoking as I type this in defiance of the tyranny!
Yes of course. Everything another religion or cult does must be condemned by the Church.
 
Tobacco is a drug. The site claims that the use of drugs are harmful to the body, so it’s pretty obvious that not only is it a form of gluttany, it is actually a mortal sin, because I’m killing myself… Slowly.

This is wrong. Our bodies are the temples of our souls, just like the Church is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Why do you think the Church uses the relics of Saints…? Because our body’s hold a connection to our souls.
This kind of thinking, when applied in a legalistic manner, can lead down a very slippery slope…

Think about that. If you eat something that is not organic and healthy, you are committing a mortal sin. If you purchase food that was farmed by those who were not paid a livable wage (as most migrant farmers are not), then you are committing a mortal sin. If you buy products made in China and they were most likely manufactured in sweat shops by children (or others) not paid a just wage, then you are committing a sin. If you shop at Wal-Mart because that’s all you can afford, you are still committing a mortal sin by purchasing food that is not organic (and thus was farmed with harmful and carcinogenic chemicals), you are committing a mortal sin…

See how quickly this can go from smoking into an entire debate that would lead us into only eating a raw diet (since cooking foods can put carcinogenic molecules in the air) if we wanted to avoid being in mortal sin…
 
Yes of course. Everything another religion or cult does must be condemned by the Church.
The “cult of health” that has grown in modern society is nothing but a tool of Satan devised to distract man from his true end which is God. It’s focus is all about “me” and earthly desires. It makes an idol out of man’s flesh and should not be tolerated. This new religion has made it that the only sins left in the world are smoking and eating red meat.

Out of all the myriad of evils afflicting society… pornography, the wholesale slaughter of children in the womb, normalisation of homosexuality, illegal wars… people want to try and tell me that smoking is the real evil? I don’t think so.

By all means don’t smoke. I am not forcing you to smoke. Just leave me in peace.
 
Umm–regarding the fatty foods, gluttony is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

As far as pipe and cigar smoking are concerned, those tobacco delivery systems are carcinogenic as well; pipe and cigar smokers tend to get head and neck cancers (oral, throat,) as opposed to the more frequent lung cancers found in cigarette smokers.

Sorry to bust everyone’s bubble here.

I’ve been told by several confessors that smoking is a venial sin at most, because the addictiveness diminishes culpability (e.g., the smoker grabs a cigarette out of addiction to both the process and the substance of nicotine, and it’s not entirely volitional at that point.) And I’ve also been told by all of them that it is a stupid and dangerous addiction that can shorten my life, and that I ought to pray for the strength to kick the habit once and for all. (I’ve quit smoking seriously nine times in my life, but have not managed to STAY quit.)
If addiction diminishes culpability then it’s safe to assume that masturbation is also a venial sin then too if you’re addicted to it.
 
This kind of thinking, when applied in a legalistic manner, can lead down a very slippery slope…

Think about that. If you eat something that is not organic and healthy, you are committing a mortal sin. If you purchase food that was farmed by those who were not paid a livable wage (as most migrant farmers are not), then you are committing a mortal sin. If you buy products made in China and they were most likely manufactured in sweat shops by children (or others) not paid a just wage, then you are committing a sin. If you shop at Wal-Mart because that’s all you can afford, you are still committing a mortal sin by purchasing food that is not organic (and thus was farmed with harmful and carcinogenic chemicals), you are committing a mortal sin…

See how quickly this can go from smoking into an entire debate that would lead us into only eating a raw diet (since cooking foods can put carcinogenic molecules in the air) if we wanted to avoid being in mortal sin…
Alot of Catholics think they can just slide into heaven w/ no problem… I disagree. We need to make every effort to be as Christ-like as we can. It’s been pointed out to me, that very very few of us will ever actually enter into heaven. I’ve heard that even many priests will fall short.

youtube.com/watch?v=GCf8C1Xcpds&feature=player_embedded#at=295
 
The “cult of health” that has grown in modern society is nothing but a tool of Satan devised to distract man from his true end which is God. It’s focus is all about “me” and earthly desires. It makes an idol out of man’s flesh and should not be tolerated. This new religion has made it that the only sins left in the world are smoking and eating red meat.

Out of all the myriad of evils afflicting society… pornography, the wholesale slaughter of children in the womb, normalisation of homosexuality, illegal wars… people want to try and tell me that smoking is the real evil? I don’t think so.

By all means don’t smoke. I am not forcing you to smoke. Just leave me in peace.
Please explain how watching pornography is worse than smoking 2 packs a day. I think they’re equally sinful.
 
“Out of one hundred thousand sinners, who continue in sin until death, scarcely one will be saved.”

St. Jerome. Father and doctor of the Church.

Catholics need to repent for all their sins. We already know that cigarettes kill… So…🤷
 
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