Snopes defends planned parenthood

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No, you don’t have to have other options in place before closing down a place that murders babies and sells their body parts. That is complete nonsense. Honestly, think about what you are saying. “Sorry, I’d love to shut down that place that kills babies for profit but I just can’t right now because they also hand out free condoms and lollipops”. Now fortunately for you, there really are places that currently exist, usually right around the corner from a planned parenthood, that do provide support and care for women without murdering children. We call them crisis pregnancy centers, and usually liberal states do all they can to shut them down so they don’t compete with planned parenthood. There is also a place called a hospital which, with the state provided insurance to those below the poverty line, enables poor women to receive various medical treatments. Like cancer treatment. Riddle me that.
 
CoffeeAndDonuts said:
A lot of people are unable to suss out satire, and if it’s well executed satire it’s even more difficult to do so.
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one would expect a fact checking site to do their homework.
angel12 said:
So, they should only point out the truth about conservative organizations. Gotcha.
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why do they need to defend plan parenthood in a fake story? why do they use a pie chart alleged to be fake by another fact checker? one of the fact checkers is wrong.
ThinkingSapien said:
It’s based on how medical coding is done. Every procedure done gets coded and recorded. If you had an STDs test and then received treatment that is 2 procedures.

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it is misrepresentative of what they do. they get a third of their money from abortion.
ThinkingSapien said:
With additional info I think an average person could understand it.
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i know how it works, but they are using the data to hide what they do.

an example, a woman comes in for an abortion. she has 3 tests related to the abortion but in their data, the abortion is only treated as 1/4 of what they did, whereas it is the reason for the visit. none of the tests would have been performed if the person didn’t come in for an abortion. why don’t they release their data so we can see the real number?
 
ThinkingSapien said:
I get this was made for other people that do not recognize the source as satire and entertainment.
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i take it that they were defending pph. they included the pie chart which has been proven to be misleading and given three pinocchios by another fact-checking site.
Dani said:
Abortion is wrong, but so are all of us for allowing people to suffer. We are a people that have lost are humanity, we have lost our Christ like caring.
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how can catholics defend pph?

 
upant said:
i take it that they were defending pph. they included the pie chart which has been proven to be misleading and given three pinocchios by another fact-checking site.
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I know this is going to sound odd, but I think the chart is both misleading (in that it will cause some people to draw conclusions other than what is the case) while at the same time not seeing it as a misrepresentation (as in it may reflect the distribution of the type of procedures). That chart and their other reports do not answer the question that you are interested in (what percentage of people that visited planned parenthood over some period of time were there seeking an abortion). It answers a different question.

But that gets into a discussion on semantics that might distract from the topic at hand.
 
0Scarlett_nidiyilii said:
Non profit does not mean it’s a charity.

Most universities are non profit but that doesn’t mean they don’t make money hand over fist.

This is what I found when I googled.

Planned Parenthood/Income
229.9 million USD
2011
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Makes me want to be a non profit!
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and our government hands out hundreds of millions to Planned Parenthood.
 
ThinkingSapien said:
I know this is going to sound odd, but I think the chart is both misleading (in that it will cause some people to draw conclusions other than what is the case) while at the same time not seeing it as a misrepresentation (as in it may reflect the distribution of the type of procedures). That chart and their other reports do not answer the question that you are interested in (what percentage of people that visited planned parenthood over some period of time were there seeking an abortion). It answers a different question.
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i agree the chart depicts a procedural breakdown, but it doesn’t tell the entire story.

the entire story can’t be told because pph doesn’t share the entire picture.
 
you mean those getting abortions are on Medicaid? i have no idea what an abortion costs, but i really don’t want my tax dollars paying for abortions.
 
It’s illegal to use federal funds for abortions. Planned Parenthood provides hundreds of millions of dollars of other health services to Medicaid recipients.
 
lmachine said:
Planned Parenthood provides hundreds of millions of dollars of other health services to Medicaid recipients.
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can these procedures be federally paid for if they are done just in prep for an abortion?
 
I’m not sure what you mean? Abortion is generally a very simple procedure, there’s not a lot of prep involved.
 
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Dani said:
Planned parenthood only has 3% of the business in abortions.
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This is actually untrue. The real number is somewhere around 35%, and PP does not provide statistically relevant medical care to people in the United States:

www.sba-list.org

Planned Parenthood’s 35% Share of U.S. Abortion Market Dwarfs that of Leaders in Other Sectors - SBA Pro-Life America

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: August 2, 2017 Contact: Nicole Stacy, nstacy@sbaprolife.org, 202-223-8073 New CLI Paper: Planned Parenthood’s Market Share of Many Non-Abortion Services, Including HIV Tests and Pap Tests, is Negligible Washington, D.C. – A new paper by Charlotte Lozier Institute (CLI)...
www.sba-list.org www.sba-list.org
 
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The 35% figure is Planned Parenthood’s share in the abortion market of the U.S., according to the link.

Also interesting:

“The report also notes that Planned Parenthood provides less than 1.4 percent of the nation’s HIV tests and less than 1 percent of pap tests, and that in the last five years service-to-client ratios for breast exams and pap tests have declined by 37 percent.”
 
As a women who once used these health services with 2 children as a married mother, many moons ago. You are totally wrong, they are a God send for women. You cannot underestimate what you never can understand. We cannot stand outside and just pray for solutions we need to actively have solutions and support. Would you willing give a big piece of your paycheck to support universal healthcare. I would in a second, not 1 person in this country should have to suffer for healthcare. If you say your walk with Christ, what comforts are you willing to sacrifice. See this is always the problem, the not my issue, but our problem. We all should be ashamed of ourselves, poor gives till it hurts and everyone else walks around pointing fingers but never will vote for the right things. More things, bigger things, walk past the homeless, people living in poverty in pain. We only focus on fighting, pointing fingers, praying but not real solutions that will make a difference in this world. God help us, it’s just so sad
 
lmachine said:
I’m not sure what you mean? Abortion is generally a very simple procedure, there’s not a lot of prep involved.
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they perform ultrasounds etc in prep for the abortion and each item performed is counted as a single event even though the person is there for an abortion.
 
upant said:
they perform ultrasounds etc in prep for the abortion and each item performed is counted as a single event even though the person is there for an abortion.
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Sounds like a positive to me, lots of Catholic organizations raising funds for ultrasound machines for pregnancy centers.
 
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