Snopes defends planned parenthood

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Unless I am misreading you, you seem to continually be promoting the idea that we can’t close abortion centers until some undefined list of other support is provided.

This is simply not a convincing argument. Seriously. “I really didn’t want to have to kill my baby but I had to because you didn’t give me a free mammogram” holds zero weight even if it were true that the abortion center was literally the only place on earth for women to receive other women-centered care.

Furthermore, closing an abortion clinic is not mutually exclusive to providing other care. And maybe women would stop seeking abortions if we as a culture didn’t encourage them to seek abortions. Because who, other than the pro-life people outside the clinic doors, tell a pregnant woman that it is ok to keep the child and be a mother? No, the default position is to tell the woman that we support her choice to kill the baby. No one tells her they will support her in keeping the baby. And it’s so easy just to go down the the planned parenthood. It is all insane.
 
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Just wondering if you ever bought a Pampers & look if they support PP 👀

Nah I won’t make y’all paranoid enough
 
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most have access to other facilities where they can get the needed services
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I’m not saying you whined about it upant. I have no idea. But this reminds me of people whining about not being able to keep their healthcare provider as Obama promised. Yet some of these same people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.
 
And they turn around and give it to liberal political campaigns… go figure… If they needed the money so badly why give it away to politicians???
 
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Businesses give money to both sides to hedge bet just in case whoever win… they get access.

Understand?

Money is KING to the big business & even smaller ones too.
 
Sy_Noe . . .
Yet some of these same people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.
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Nobody is “forcing women to go elsewhere”.

All that Planned Parenthood needs to do . . . . is get out of the Abortion Business.

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God bless.

Cathoholic
 
upant correctly pointed out (regarding the phony 3% abortion statistic that Planned Parenthood keeps touting) . . .
the 3% is a manipulated number.
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ThinkingSapien responded (with emphasis mine) . . .
Having worked on software that among other things had to work with ICD coding I disagree. I do think this method of counting probably doesnt align with how the general public might think it would work. But it’s a standard way of counting. With additional info I think an average person could understand it.
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To the readers of this thread here is some “additional info”.

Draw your own conclusions regarding Planned Parenthood (the outfit that commits 1 out of 3 of all abortions or pre-born baby killings in this nation) . . . .

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I don’t trust Planned Parenthood for a multitude of reasons.

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I’m not saying you whined about it upant. I have no idea. But this reminds me of people whining about not being able to keep their healthcare provider as Obama promised. Yet some of these same people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.
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not even close, a baby losing its life isn’t comparable to political policy

does your religion approve of abortion?
 
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Sy_Noe . . .
Yet some of these same people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.
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As a Catholic, just don’t use them. The same as you wouldn’t go to any healthcare provider that performs abortions which are still legal even though of course Catholics oppose them or the same as you wouldn’t go to any provider who prescribes contraceptives. It’s still your choice.
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Sy_Noe:
I’m not saying you whined about it upant. I have no idea. But this reminds me of people whining about not being able to keep their healthcare provider as Obama promised. Yet some of these same people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.
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not even close, a baby losing its life isn’t comparable to political policy

does your religion approve of abortion?
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Lots of Christian denominations approve of some choice and don’t view the issue as Catholics do. Even some adherents to Judaism don’t view the issue in the same way as Catholics.
 
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Sy_Noe said:
As a Catholic, just don’t use them. The same as you wouldn’t go to any healthcare provider that performs abortions which are still legal even though of course Catholics oppose them or the same as you wouldn’t go to any provider who prescribes contraceptives. It’s still your choice.
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i agree, but as you can see, some catholics defend and apparently use them.
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Lots of Christian denominations approve of some choice and don’t view the issue as Catholics do. Even some adherents to Judaism don’t view the issue in the same way as Catholics.
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yes, i know.
but does this make abortion ok?
 
Sy_Noe on Planned Parenthood . . . .
As a Catholic, just don’t use them.
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Why should YOU FORCE Catholics have to go elsewhere if they want to support their faith in society?

And your criticism did not concern “Catholics”.

You said some “people now seem to want to force women to go elsewhere for their healthcare services.”

And I am saying Planned Parenthood getting out of killing innocent humans (and euphemistically mislabeling it as “healhcare” and forcing me to pay for this with fungible tax monies) is the appropriate option.

If Planned Parenthood is so worried about wanting women to come to them for other services just get out of the killing industry.
 
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My son has a rare cancer. Most are lost within a year of diagnosis. I look around and I see all the wasted anger, people not helping each other. I see how much we can accomplish when we work together. My perspective comes from a place of mercy.
 
I will remember your DS in my prayers :pray:t2::pray:t2::pray:t2:
 
Here’s my boring prediction in 50 years from now…

Same old abortion debate but it’s more accessible than ever… 👀😬:man_shrugging:t2:
 
No one is forcing you to go to whomever you want for your healthcare in order to show your faith and to abide by it.
 
If your prediction is correct, that would make the debate going on a century. I won’t be on earth to see it however.
 
More likely IMO are fewer pregnancies. Oh, wait, that’s already happening.
 
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