Snubbed?

[Lutheranteach]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

 

[Nominefili]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

That priest sounds like a jerk. Sorry to hear that.

 

[Protestant101]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

This doesn’t surprise me at all; I won’t get into details except to say that the treatment I got at a Catholic family member’s funeral reception by the Priest was really hard to take on top of our mourning for our lost little one. Non-Catholics, in my experiences, do seem to get a different kind of attitude from Catholic Clergy than do Catholics.

I would add though that there are many Catholics, not in leadership who have treated me the same as they would anyone in their Church, so one just has to try and go with the positive there and build on that.

 

[kalt]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

Hey, you weren’t told your religion is wrong or, worse, looked on with pity for your faith. I would prefer to be overlooked by non-Catholics at a no-Catholic event than that.

I don’t think that expecting the host to address everyone in attendance is too much to ask. Is this priest usually such a clod? If so, he might not mean anything by it. He might just be a terrible public speaker.(Or he is a clod and doesn’t think that he is required to acknowledge non-Catholics.) If he’s not usually a clod, it’s possible that he got caught up in the “Catholicity” of the whole event and forgetting you was an uncharacteristic slip.

How did you all end up in the overflow area? That’s really weird? Were there reserved tables? If there were, that’s a first come first served thing, usually. Those in the know get a jump on things and reserve the front and center tables.

In some places (not only churches) people who work on a project take the best seats for themselves. It’s tacky and rude, but they think they’re entitled to front row seats for volunteering. We had one wonderful woman to saw the volunteers taking the whole front row at a kids’ event. She was running the show, and she out a stop to that immediately. They were put out, but while she was in charge of things, volunteerism was way up. No one felt like they were snubbed or not in the “in crowd” because she didn’t allow the seat grabbing kind of thing to go on. It was really nice.

 

[Trishie]

God bless you for your wonderful efforts. You are blessed to be such a good and active Christian, and the school community is blessed to have such wonderful supporters as you. If there was any segregation it was unacceptable, and I know it wouldn’t occur in any parish around my area. And thank you and all others, non-Catholic and Catholic alike for your efforts, which speak for themselves, and will be acknowlegged for all eternity, as what we do for others we do for Christ, as He tells us in Matthew 25 verses 31-46, as we all know!

 

[KingTheoden]

This might sound uncharitable, but it has to be said.

A big problem we are dealing with in modern society is oversensitivity and hyper-analysis.

Unless I’m missing something, the issue here is that the (Catholic) priest, at a (Catholic) fund-raising event, thanked the (Catholic) community. He did not say ‘and to you heretics, we hope to see you in RCIA soon!’ Apparently he just did not say anything.

You know, we are called to do good things not so we received recognition. When you help someone on the side of the road who ends up being unappreciative, it can be annoying. But we don’t help people so that we can hear ‘thank you so much! I’ll put you in the newspaper!’ but rather because we are called to do that as a natural part of life.

I think it is very uncalled for to name call anyone, especially a priest, who has given up his life in order for shepherding others to salvation.

 

[wisdomseeker]

This might sound uncharitable, but it has to be said.

A big problem we are dealing with in modern society is oversensitivity and hyper-analysis.

Unless I’m missing something, the issue here is that the (Catholic) priest, at a (Catholic) fund-raising event, thanked the (Catholic) community. He did not say ‘and to you heretics, we hope to see you in RCIA soon!’ Apparently he just did not say anything.

You know, we are called to do good things not so we received recognition. When you help someone on the side of the road who ends up being unappreciative, it can be annoying. But we don’t help people so that we can hear ‘thank you so much! I’ll put you in the newspaper!’ but rather because we are called to do that as a natural part of life.

I think it is very uncalled for to name call anyone, especially a priest, who has given up his life in order for shepherding others to salvation.

i agree with you. many Catholics come against the authority of the Church for those outside the Church. i am sure he appreciate all people but it doesnt have to be said at all times.

people do not understand Catholics and all they want do is complain.

you can’t look at the CC and compare to be equal to all other religions. it is not. we have a different belief. we are different from other religions. one cannot expect Catholics to act just like them. it is impossible.

 

[twopekinguys]

Keep in mind, this is not the way the Catholic Church as a whole operates.

Our parish Bazaar has been led by several interfaith couples as yourself, and our pastor has acknowledged them, almost gushingly sometimes.

If a job has been accomplished, and praise is being given, then everyone should be praised regardless of religious affiliation.

We also as volunteers in these situations need to be humble. We need to keep in mind whether we are doing it for the good, or are we doing it for the glory.

In our parish, our bazaar committee always has a wrap up, or debriefing meeting to see how things can be improved for the next year. If it were me, I would bring it up at one of those meetings. Charitably of course.

 

[Reuben_J]

This might sound uncharitable, but it has to be said.

A big problem we are dealing with in modern society is oversensitivity and hyper-analysis.

Unless I’m missing something, the issue here is that the (Catholic) priest, at a (Catholic) fund-raising event, thanked the (Catholic) community. He did not say ‘and to you heretics, we hope to see you in RCIA soon!’ Apparently he just did not say anything.

You know, we are called to do good things not so we received recognition. When you help someone on the side of the road who ends up being unappreciative, it can be annoying. But we don’t help people so that we can hear ‘thank you so much! I’ll put you in the newspaper!’ but rather because we are called to do that as a natural part of life.

I think it is very uncalled for to name call anyone, especially a priest, who has given up his life in order for shepherding others to salvation.

I was about to say that. Apparently there are Catholics too who fall into this category which makes it such a dilemma in fund raising sometimes. The big donors would want some recognition and if the donation is big enough perhaps a hall named after them or their grandparents. It is so unChristian and disappointing. Unfortunately this trend spread across the board into Protestantism. What happen to the Gospel teaching not to let the other hand knows what the other has given? I guess it’s all too human and too secular and Christian value all but diminishes in the face of onslaught of secularism and materialism.

 

[twopekinguys]

This doesn’t surprise me at all; I won’t get into details except to say that the treatment I got at a Catholic family member’s funeral reception by the Priest was really hard to take on top of our mourning for our lost little one. Non-Catholics, in my experiences, do seem to get a different kind of attitude from Catholic Clergy than do Catholics.

I would add though that there are many Catholics, not in leadership who have treated me the same as they would anyone in their Church, so one just has to try and go with the positive there and build on that.

First, let me offer our sympathies for your loss.

I am interested in knowing what type of treatment you received that you found objectionable?

 

[StrawberryJam]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

He needs to develop some better social skills, period. I don’t care what his title is.

 

[tbcrawford]

As some may know I am the Lutheran half of a interfaith marriage. I spent the last month or so arranging parts of a charity auction for the Catholic school our son attends. Much time, much effort. Tonight was the big night. The Priest came and gave his pre dinner blessing and then welcomed those from other local parishes and then “all the other good Roman Catholics” in attendance. The 10-15 non Catholics who have kids attending the school and additional family members were not mentioned even though they, and I (not to brag) blew the previous fundraising marks out of the water tonight. Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

Bless you for all your efforts and thankyou for all you have done and continue to do for the catholic school your son attends.I am sorry that you have been made to feel unvalued and unfairly treated.You are a wonderful kind person and thankyou for being so caring.may God bless you

 

[Nine_Two]

That sounds aweful, but as some others have pointed out it happens in any denomination. It shouldn’t but it does.

For the apologetics in this thread, when someone thanks members of local parishes and “Good Roman Catholics” for their efforts, when they know full well that there are non-Catholics involved, that’s a snub, but at the same time you have a point. Who cares what praise you get from man on earth, it is the praise you recieve from our Father in heaven.

 

[Scottgun]

Wheel of Fortune. We are looking for a thing:

–TR–T–N

Hint: Catechism section 2477

 

[Guyonthestreet]

Is if to much to ask to be recognized even if its as “and others”? Oddly, alll the non-Catholics also somehow ended up being placed in a separate “overflow” area and served last.

Have it out with him.

He may not have realised what he did, but I do find it odd that he could have overlooked the huge efforts made by you and other non catholics by accident and not even give you guys a mention.

Whether you were overlooked by accident or design, he may be more sensitive in future if you front him about it now.

God bless you for your wonderful efforts. You are blessed to be such a good and active Christian, and the school community is blessed to have such wonderful supporters as you. If there was any segregation it was unacceptable, and I know it wouldn’t occur in any parish around my area. And thank you and all others, non-Catholic and Catholic alike for your efforts, which speak for themselves, and will be acknowlegged for all eternity, as what we do for others we do for Christ, as He tells us in Matthew 25 verses 31-46, as we all know!

Great response.

This might sound uncharitable, but it has to be said.

A big problem we are dealing with in modern society is oversensitivity and hyper-analysis.

I think it is very uncalled for to name call anyone, especially a priest, who has given up his life in order for shepherding others to salvation.

I dont think theres anything oversensitive in feeling left out and unnamed at a fund raising event for the church, when everyone else was named and thanked.

If noone was, fair enough, but to only thank catholics when the majority of the effort was made by non catholics is unacceptable, and not in the least bit sensitive.

Priests are human too - and have all the human failings of the next man - they need to be called on it.

Being a man of God does not, in my opinion, give you a licence to be ignorant.

Are they due respect - of course - but theres nothing disrespectful in telling a priest or anyone else their behavior was unacceptable.

There is of course a respectful and disrespectful way to do this, and calling him a clod would not be the way to go about it, I dont think.

I take the point though people in the main dont do things to be thanked, and as you said get themselves in the newpaper.

They do things because its the right thing to do.

But if youre goin go thank people, then thank everyone, or noone.

 

[ICBCINTERGER2]

That priest sounds like a jerk. Sorry to hear that. http://www.*********.com/img/4713/n09x0302vnsn/clear.gif

 

[dsears]

Maybe I’m just being too kind, but maybe the priest just overlooked the fact that there were protestants in the crowd. Maybe he (as an old teacher of mine used to say) had a brain fart and just completly forgot??? (I guess one could be hopeful.)

 

[bookgirl32]

Maybe I’m just being too kind, but maybe the priest just overlooked the fact that there were protestants in the crowd. Maybe he (as an old teacher of mine used to say) had a brain fart and just completly forgot??? (I guess one could be hopeful.)

I would give him the benefit of the doubt and think this was probably the case. That doesn’t make it okay though. But I don’t see anything wrong with bringing it to his attention and letting him know that it was inconsiderate and it hurt your feelings. You can’t really just assume what his reasoning was, if he even had any. Either way, “I just forgot about you” is really just as offensive as “I have a particular reason for not thanking you”, so I think you should talk to him.

 

[benidict]

Wheel of Fortune. We are looking for a thing:

–TR–T–N

Hint: Catechism section 2477

id like to solve. DETRACTION?:newidea:

 

[KingTheoden]

We had a bishop from India visit our church a few months ago. He talked about what poor Christians Indians go through to worship (loss of government benefits is a big thing). Yet they gladly do it because they want to be part of the one true Church created by Christ and led by his Apostles.

Their masses are three hours long on Sundays. Even at my good and orthodox parish, I think some people would throw fits if Church lasted half that time!

You see, in America we worry so much about ‘being thanked’ or ‘getting that recognition.’ Yes it is nice, but it is a side issue. Charity is supposed to be always flowing from us as we imitate Jesus Christ.

Beyond that, I think it is very generous of the Church today to so freely allow inter-faith marriages. I mean, it’s not as if the Protestant schism did not have severe consequences. Several wars were fought. Catholics know that we are correct and that the Protestant confessions are wrong. Therefore I am not seeing why it should be expected for a priest to go out of his way to say something like ‘thank you to Mr. X, who is of the Missouri Synod/Presbyterian USA/etc.’ I mean, priests don’t usually segment thanks into which quarter of town support comes from.

It is sad to see people calling a priest a ‘dunce’ or ‘jerk’ or ‘lacking social skills.’ I think this is exactly what Jesus talked about when he warned against judging others.

Again, sorry if this seems like I’m being a grumpy person because I really don’t intend that. I just strongly feel that this is a silly thing to get into a fit about.