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OK so my husband pulled out this old acoustic guitar last night, which i knew he had, but never really knew how well he could play.

he started playing these really really beautiful chords while he was in the basement, and just strumming. then he started playing a slow and soft song, and then started singing.

WOW. all the time ive known him and i NEVER knew he could sing like that. it was a really really sad-ish kind of song, and just listening to him made him seem very very sexy.

after he stopped for a minute i went down, and told him how awesome it sounded. i asked him “who was that you were signing? it was soooo good.”

he said “Alice In Chains - Don’t Follow”

(sounds of glass shattering). GRRRRR!!! Alice In Chains is a band definitely on the “no-no” list of good christian people, and I distinctly remember joining a protest at an Alice In Chains cover band concert back when i was a Freshman. One of their songs says over and over “Deny your maker…”. the student government association allowed them to play at a SG rally even over the loud objections the Christian fellowship had.

I am so ashamed that I momentarily liked one of their songs, and that my husband would actually listen to them enough that he could play them on the guitar.

Needless to say, he didnt seem very sexy after that. Alice In Chains? have you heard about some of the things that went on at their concerts? I guess I am fooling myself that he will ever conform to what i think is a good and decent Christian Man.

well at least he is living up to one of his favorite bands and “Denying his maker…” :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Ignorance is bliss, huh? Now that you know his secret, though, maybe you can get him to play something you don’t know to be objectionable and then catch him off guard with some affection when he’s seeming sexy.
 
**My understanding of the lyrics that went “deny your maker” was that it meant that you would do anything for drugs when you are hooked, even deny your Maker, i.e. God. I cannot speak for the stuff that goes on in their concerts because I’ve never been to one of their concerts. **
**Just a personal note—I love that song that you are mentioning, as well as some Iron Maiden songs, some of Ozzy’s music, and alot of other heavy metal(of course, I also love country music, classical, jazz, pop, classic rock, and of course, religious music, as well as other types of music) But I would not go to a heavy metal concert or have any of their CD’s in my house. Just because I like some songs by a certain band doesn’t mean I like them all or how the group members live their lifestyles, which is why I don’t support them by spending money on them. **

**So relax. Please. If the song itself is not objectionable, then my understanding is that it is ok. And it’s been such a rough road for you with your husband, it was nice that you did find something attractive. If the lyrics are not evil, then, please, go back to thinking that hubby was sexy. 😉 It may be a new start for you. ** :gopray2:
 
Does he know these things about Alice in Chains? I didn’t, until this thread, and I think of myself as a pretty decent Christian…I wouldn’t make a big deal out of this if it was me. Maybe you could lead him to more Christian type music that you enjoy.
 
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SeminoleGirl22:
OK so my husband pulled out this old acoustic guitar last night, which i knew he had, but never really knew how well he could play.

he started playing these really really beautiful chords while he was in the basement, and just strumming. then he started playing a slow and soft song, and then started singing.

WOW. all the time ive known him and i NEVER knew he could sing like that. it was a really really sad-ish kind of song, and just listening to him made him seem very very sexy.

after he stopped for a minute i went down, and told him how awesome it sounded. i asked him “who was that you were signing? it was soooo good.”

he said “Alice In Chains - Don’t Follow”

(sounds of glass shattering). GRRRRR!!! Alice In Chains is a band definitely on the “no-no” list of good christian people, and I distinctly remember joining a protest at an Alice In Chains cover band concert back when i was a Freshman. One of their songs says over and over “Deny your maker…”. the student government association allowed them to play at a SG rally even over the loud objections the Christian fellowship had.

I am so ashamed that I momentarily liked one of their songs, and that my husband would actually listen to them enough that he could play them on the guitar.

Needless to say, he didnt seem very sexy after that. Alice In Chains? have you heard about some of the things that went on at their concerts? I guess I am fooling myself that he will ever conform to what i think is a good and decent Christian Man.

well at least he is living up to one of his favorite bands and “Denying his maker…” :mad: :mad: :mad:
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That song is about crack addiction and what it does to peoples souls.Father Corapi can attest to what drug addiction can do to your soul. The song was a statement on the evils of addiction.Suicide solution by Ozzy Osbourne was about his own battle with alcoholism as well as his song demon alcohol.You have to listen to all the lyrics before you jump to conclusions.
 
It seems to me like this guy can’t win, no matter what he does. If he does the right thing, he’s still wrong.

Why not ask him to play something you like?
 
Ok. Relax. Is there anything that he does that you don’t judge?? The man can’t even play a good song on the guitar without you flipping out!

Layne Staley was an addict, but he was a decent guy. He would take homeless people to dinner with him in towns that the band played in. He took interest in what they had to say and gave them cash before they parted ways. Many people said that he had a heart of gold. If you actually listened to his lyrics you would see that he was terribly gripped by drugs and couldn’t get out. That song “Down in a Hole” is about drug addiction.

And what’s this about AIC being a “no-no” among good Christians? I take personal offense to that. AIC is one of my favorite bands. I don’t think that makes me a bad person to enjoy their music or music of the like.

When people protest lyrics to songs like “deny your maker” it really shows the ignorance and willingness to listen to others.
 
HAZZA!!!

I love that alice in chains song, I have it. I <3 your husband, he is cool in my book.

Now what he needs is a harmonica player to join in, it be the perfect Don’t Follow tribute, ahh sweet bliss…
 
I’m a very dedicated Catholic, and I LOVE Alice in Chains. I’m not sure where the idea came up that they were somehow anti-Christian, but this is the first I’ve heard of it. The song “Man in the Box”, which is the one with the “Deny your maker” lyrics is not about denying God in any strict sense, but a sense of abandonment. I would post the entire lyrics here, but there are words that would be censored despite the fact that they aren’t used in any explicit way; I will remove the word in question, however. The song itself is nothing worse than Psalm 22, and may in fact be an allusion to it.

To compare some lyrics from the song in question, and Psalm 22:

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.

and from Man in the Box:

I’m the man in the box
Buried in my edited
Won’t you come and save me, save me

Feed my eyes, can you sew them shut?
Jesus Christ, deny your maker
He who tries, will be wasted
Feed my eyes now you’ve sewn them shut

I’m the dog who gets beat
Shove my nose in edited
Won’t you come and save me, save me

To me it seems to be, if anything, a reference to Psalm 22 and the cry of “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me,” by Christ on the Cross.

Just my opinion, but as a Catholic I’ve never seen anything repulsive about their music. As others have stated, the lyrics of Alice in Chains often reflect the torture of drug addiction, and the pain it inflicts on the soul. Unfortunately, Layne Staley, the lead singer and lyricist of Alice in Chains, lost his battle with heroin addiction after years of struggle. He never attempted to glorify his addiction, even while he sang about it, and his death by overdose is a tragic cautionary tale.

In my humble view, you are being far to harsh on your husband in this instance.

Peace and God bless!
 
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HAZZA!!!

I love that alice in chains song, I have it. I <3 your husband, he is cool in my book.

Now what he needs is a harmonica player to join in, it be the perfect Don’t Follow tribute, ahh sweet bliss…
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Amen to that, a big Heck YEAHHH!!!. your husband sounds A-OK as far as music choice goes. nothing like a live acoustic version of “Rooster”, or “down in a hole” downloaded from an obscure concert. “Don’t Follow” is an absolutely great tune too.

now, can he sing like Aaron Lewis of “Stained”? give me a solo acoustic version of " Epiphany" or “Outside” and it’ll send chills down my spine.

go on the internet and do a search for AIC lyrics. you will find sooooo many refernces to drug addiction and the struggle:

“ive eaten the sun so my tounge has been burned of the taste…”

“down in a hole…feelin’ so small…”

“you cant understand a user’s mind… but try with your books and degrees…”

and as far as other bands too:

Metallica: “Sad but True” - HEAVY on drug addiction
“Fade to Black” - feelings of suicide
“Mama Said” - estrangement from parents
and the ever popular “Don’t Tread On Me” - highly overplayed after 9/11

alot of alternative/metal bands arent bad. some are. pick your battles, and for pete’s sake, dont crucify him for AIC and some really, really awesome songs.
 
The Johnny Cash recorded a AIC song - was it not “Man in a Box” ?brings tears to my eyes…
 
Gotta second the “I Love that Song” posted earlier. Also must second the “the guy can’t get a break” also posted earlier. Seems like you may be more interested in making you hubby what you want him to be rather than loving him for the good things in him. If Jesus were here now…how do you think you’d measure up? (or me, or any other human). Remember the saying about people in glass houses? It seems to me like you just plain hate him…you have nothing nice to say about him, you demean his physical appearance, and now his taste in music…all because he’s not like you. Starting to feel sorry for the guy. I have to wonder if you aren’t projecting issues you have onto him. You sure aren’t showing any sort of respect for him…and as your husband, he at least deserves that. Not trying to sound mean, but gosh…you sound really mean and demeaning when you talk about him. How would you feel if he spoke of you the way you’ve spoken of him? Constructive criticism is a great thing…but I’m not seeing much constructive here…just (to borrow a quaint colloquialism) Dissin’.
 
Oh sweetie, you blew it big time! Instead of using such a moment to connect to your husband and come to some kind of understanding with him, you blast him with your Puritan sense of what is right and wrong. You are not a Protestant, but a Catholic. Catholics do not see everything as wrong if the “wrong” person wrote it or sang it or whatever.

I know I’ve been very sympathetic to your side in your situation, but really, this is too much. It seems to me that you are the one trying to find a reason not to love your husband. I’m beginning to understand his coldness when you are frigid enough for the both of you. I suggest you apologize to him, and ask him to sing that song for you again. And for goodness sake, let the man work out his own issues instead acting like his conscience–that’s not a wife’s job, that’s his job and his confessor’s.
 
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SeminoleGirl22:
OK so my husband pulled out this old acoustic guitar last night, which i knew he had, but never really knew how well he could play.

he started playing these really really beautiful chords while he was in the basement, and just strumming. then he started playing a slow and soft song, and then started singing.

WOW. all the time ive known him and i NEVER knew he could sing like that. it was a really really sad-ish kind of song, and just listening to him made him seem very very sexy.

after he stopped for a minute i went down, and told him how awesome it sounded. i asked him “who was that you were signing? it was soooo good.”

he said “Alice In Chains - Don’t Follow”

(sounds of glass shattering). GRRRRR!!! Alice In Chains is a band definitely on the “no-no” list of good christian people, and I distinctly remember joining a protest at an Alice In Chains cover band concert back when i was a Freshman. One of their songs says over and over “Deny your maker…”. the student government association allowed them to play at a SG rally even over the loud objections the Christian fellowship had.

I am so ashamed that I momentarily liked one of their songs, and that my husband would actually listen to them enough that he could play them on the guitar.

Needless to say, he didnt seem very sexy after that. Alice In Chains? have you heard about some of the things that went on at their concerts? I guess I am fooling myself that he will ever conform to what i think is a good and decent Christian Man.

well at least he is living up to one of his favorite bands and “Denying his maker…” :mad: :mad: :mad:
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I noticed some great songs have bad lyrics. If you like that song perhaps you can rewrite the lyrics but keep the melody. Do you think he’d sing it if it was “cleaned up”? Then maybe you both can enjoy it?
 
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SeminoleGirl22:
WOW. all the time ive known him and i NEVER knew he could sing like that.
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You really don’t know this man very well, do you, SeminoleGirl22?

How long was your courtship? Did you participate in a pre-Cana program? Did you take it seriously?

I’ve read your posts here, and there’s something seriously amiss.

Your husband has faults, for sure ( as do we all!). But I find it really hard to believe that none of his faults was visible before the wedding, and now they’re glaring and constant. Did you condemn him constantly before the ceremony?

It looks to me very much as if the two of you were not remotely ready for marriage – you don’t communicate, you don’t begin to know each other. You’re hopelessly judgmental; if we take you at your word, he’s hopelessly arbitrary. I have no sense that either of you sees marriage as a giving relationship – rather, each of you seems to expect things from the other, and to be more interested in hurting than in giving.

If you two were in my pre-Cana session, I would strongly urge you to postpone any wedding plans, and get to know each other, and yourselves, a whole lot better before making a lifetime commitment. If I were your priest and saw these behaviors, I would decline to officiate at your marriage.
 
Incidentally, I once asked on musician forums (not in seriousness, just for fun) - “Who sings for Bonham, Burton, and Dimebag’s band in heaven?” People replied “Layne Staley”. I haven’t heard any AIC but maybe I should check them out if people think he’s good enough to sing for those 3.

By the way,
John Bonham was the drummer from Led Zeppelin,
Cliff Burton was the original bass player from Metallica (died in a bus accident in 1986 I think)
‘Dimebag’ Darrel Abbot was the guitarist for Pantera and later Damageplan - he was shot at a concert earlier this year.
 
I have to second the comment about Catholics not doing this; it really seems like a protestant thing, deciding a song is “evil” because it’s by an “evil band” or whatever. Relax. Start looking for the good in life instead of the evil.
 
Seems like every hard rock band says some anti Christian thing now. It’s like a fashion statement to them. They dont worship Satan and Alice and chains biggest problem was heroin. You will see more evil on the 6:00PM news then rock and role can ever cause. These people are just angry and rebellious, they dont have the gaul to do any real evil for the most part. The more people freak out about it the more they enjoy the free publicity.

-D
 
Back to the OPs point, my advice is to take a deep breath and pray before you react to something in a negative way. Jesus hung out with prostitutes and sinners, ask Him to show you how to love your husband.

Remember, you did not marry a Catholic Chior boy. Let God do the converting, we as Christian Catholics have one command - to love. Conversion is a long process. Watch the leaves falling off the tree, that is a long process - and some may not come off til spring when the new growth pushes the dead leaves on off. We do not have to go pulling leaves off the trees - God will take care of that.

Praying for you!
 
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