So disheartened. Feel like leaving Church.

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If you go to a Tridentine Mass, talk to the priest there. Tell him everything, and I am sure he will be able to help you overcome what these liberals have said to you. Know that you are home in the Catholic Church, and I will pray for you. Do not even consider going to the SSPX schismatics or the heretical Protestants and Orthodox.
 
I think by now you’ve heard it dozens of times, but I feel like you can hear it once more: Don’t leave.

You are a solid Catholic. The priest you refer to may be somewhat erroneous in his understanding of Church teachings. Pray for him. Continue to pray for the orthodoxy of your fellow Catholics.

At the same time, I urge you to be careful with the distinction between a traditional and orthodox Catholic. It is possible to be one and not the other. I consider myself an orthodox Catholic but not traditional. You can be a traditional AND orthodox Catholic, but don’t mistake non-traditionalists as non-orthodox Catholics. As long as you have that straight, you should be fine.
 
If you go to a Tridentine Mass, talk to the priest there. Tell him everything, and I am sure he will be able to help you overcome what these liberals have said to you. Know that you are home in the Catholic Church, and I will pray for you. Do not even consider going to the SSPX schismatics or the heretical Protestants and Orthodox.
Orthodox are heretics? How dare you! You see, this is the attitude that drives people away from the Church. YOu think they have any less Apostolic succession than you?
 
Dear Dempsey1919,
listen, please do not give up. you see all of us in this forum all supporting you. when pope Ben16 widen TLM, he want young generation to support latin mass. young priest in the near future must study latin classes for example. remember we pray for our Lord Yesus Christum. stay and fight the satan…

To Caesar, Hello Caesar!!! are you there??? one message for you that’s all…
~ Orthodox, sspx are heretics…
thank you…

Benedicite Deus…
 
Dear Dempsey1919,
listen, please do not give up. you see all of us in this forum all supporting you. when pope Ben16 widen TLM, he want young generation to support latin mass. young priest in the near future must study latin classes for example. remember we pray for our Lord Yesus Christum. stay and fight the satan…

To Caesar, Hello Caesar!!! are you there??? one message for you that’s all…
~ Orthodox, sspx are heretics…
thank you…

Benedicite Deus…
Orthodox are NOT heretics, and you should be ashamed for saying it.
 
Orthodox are heretics? How dare you! You see, this is the attitude that drives people away from the Church. YOu think they have any less Apostolic succession than you?
Do you not deny Papal Infallibility? The Immaculate Conception? Purgatory?
 
I came home to the Church about a month ago and I attend an indult Latin Mass.

I fully believe in everything that the Church teaches…but I feel like leaving the Church. I’m so disheartened. Here’s the story:

Like I said, I’m a recent revert and I have been meeting with my parish priest for the last two weeks because I want to receive the Sacrament of Confirmation. I have spent about 4 years reading and learning about the faith; I wanted to make sure that I believe in EVERYTHING the Church teaches. I would never enter the Church and become a ‘cafeteria Catholic’. As a result of this study, I now have a pretty thorough understanding of doctrine and belief etc.

I was very excited about meeting with my priest every week but now I wish I didn’t bother.

It seems that every Catholic I meet is a liberal who is against the Church’s moral teachings. I recently started University and I visited the Catholic Chaplaincy. The Priest was great but the place seems very liberal, for example, the room where they say Mass has a gay pride flag pinned to the wall. One of the chaplains is an ex-nun (which seems strange). They also let non-Catholics worship there/use the facilities eg. chapel etc.

I’ve just came back from my weekly meeting with the Priest and I feel very demoralised. I decided that I would ask the Priest about everything that troubled me about Catholicism. I don’t think it went well. I asked him about ecumenism and the need for other Christians to become Catholics. He said that the Catholic Church is not the Church of Christ per se, but that the Church of Christ subsists in it. He said that the Church of Christ is actually the large fellowship of all Christians, irregardless of denomination. He did say that the Catholic Church has the fullness of faith however. He also said that the Roman Catholic Church had placed too much emphasis on the primacy of the Pope and that more needs to be done to accomodate the Orthodox.

I asked him whether he believed in contraception and he didn’t give me an answer. He told me that most Catholics in this country do not have a problem with contraception and that it is not an infallable teaching. I told him that I was against contraception and he looked less than impressed. I told him that I could not in good conscience ever use a condom and he said that while this is ‘proper’ most Catholics disagree.

I told him that I will keep attending the Latin Mass and that I hope other younger people will attend. He didn’t greet that comment with enthusiasm either.

At the end of the meeting, he asked me whether I would like to keep seeing him. I told him that I still wanted to be confirmed but he seemed less enthusiastic than he was last week.

I’m starting to think that there are no faithful Catholics left. Everyone I meet seems so hypocritical. I’m gutted because I really believe what the Church teaches, but it seems that the church is infested with dissenters who look down on orthodox catholic teaching. I wish I met Catholics like the ones on this forum.

I feel like leaving the Church…everyone seems so hypocritical…even the Priests. I don’t know what to do. The SSPX is looking more and more appealing. I’m feel very upset at the moment:( .
You have to ask yourself where the devil is going to “get” you? Usually it’s not going to be in a place that repulses you but in a place that’s pleasing to you. Note the word usually.

I’m sure if you posted your location (maybe that’s been done already) someone could point you in the direction of an faithful, in union with Rome, church in your area. If you’re considering going to an SSPX chapel, you might at least give that a shot first.
 
Do you not deny Papal Infallibility? The Immaculate Conception? Purgatory?
Orthodox apostolic succession is JUST as vaild as yours…you would do well to remember that, and to remember who was in charge of the church at Jerusalem…it wasn’t Peter. If you are the example for Catholicism, it is a dismal one indeed.
 
Orthodox apostolic succession is JUST as vaild as yours…you would do well to remember that, and to remember who was in charge of the church at Jerusalem…it wasn’t Peter. If you are the example for Catholicism, it is a dismal one indeed.
Quote me on that. Where exactly did I say, in this thread or others, that the Orthodox bishops lack Apostolic Succession? Please provide a quote.
 
Well then, I guess all the Popes of the last 1000 years (which happens to be most of them) who saw the Orthodox as heretics must have been immature too…
funny, history doesnt recall that… it seems the “faith” that needs to attack is unsure of itself
 
“They” want you to think there are more of “them” than there are of “you” but that is not accurate. Stick with the church, you’re needed, and this just shows you how much work you’ll need to do!

I’m replying to the original post here, seems a little off topic of the posts at the end.
 
funny, history doesnt recall that… it seems the “faith” that needs to attack is unsure of itself
History does recall that:

Pope Pius XI, A. D. 1922-1939: “Furthermore, in this one Church of Christ no man can be or remain who does not accept, recognize and obey the authority and supremacy of Peter and his legitimate successors. Did not the ancestors of those who are now entangled in the **errors of Photius [the eastern “Orthodox” schismatics]**and the reformers [the Protestants], obey the Bishop of Rome, the chief shepherd of souls?

“If, then, the Greeks or others say that they were not committed to the care of Peter and his successors, they necessarily confess that they are not of the sheep of Christ; for the Lord says, in John, that there is one fold, one shepherd, and one only.” (Unam Sanctam) Pope Boniface VIII

“Therefore if a man does not want to be, or to be called, a heretic, let him not strive to please this or that man …] but let him hasten before all things to be in communion with the Roman See. If he be in communion with it, he should be acknowledged by all and everywhere as faithful and orthodox. He speaks in vain who tries to persuade me of the orthodoxy of those who, like himself, refuse obedience to his Holiness the Pope of the most holy Church of Rome: that is to the Apostolic See.” (Quoted by Pope Leo XIII in Satis Cognitum)

“They, therefore, walk in the path of dangerous errors (ie. heresy) who believe that they can accept Christ as the head of the Church, while not adhering loyally to His Vicar on earth. They have taken away the visible head, broken the visible bonds of unity and left the Mystical Body of the Redeemer so obscured and so maimed, that those who are seeking the haven of eternal salvation can neither see it nor find it.” Pope Pius XII

“So little does the Roman Church stand alone, as you think, that in the whole world any nation that in its pride dissents from her is in no way a church, but a council of heretics, a conventicle of schismatics, and a synagogue of Satan.”
  • Pope Leo IX speaking of the Orthodox at the time of the schism
 
Stop arguing please. This person has asked for guidance and that is what this post is all about. If you truely believe in the Catholic faith you will stay. If there are things you believe that are not being done right according to the rubrics, you can stand up for what you think is right. I love my faith. I have seen abuses and have followed the proper channels, persistently I might add, and have succeeded in making some changes. It was frustrating, but I felt like I was making a difference. Try other Parishes and see if you can find one that will help you. Remember it only takes one person to make a difference in helping preserve our laws of the Church. Good Luck and be positive.
 
Hi Dempsey

You know the church is about going from an intellectual understanding of God to a relationship with God - to letting God fill you with the peace and love that passes all understanding.
So hang in there - giving yourself in worship - and be still and know that God is God.👍
 
Guys
In response to the arguing further up this food chain - let me remind you of the words of Jesus - ’ by their fruit ye shall know them’ - that is those who love God. 🙂

What’s to prove? God has been misrepresented at times by all shades of so-called devotion. And orthodoxy ‘wins’ because it has the big guns - not because it necessarily has an immutable truth. Just look at Church history to see where dreadful things have been done in the Christian God’s name - wars, torture, deceit, genocide -you name it, it’s been done.

What is sad is that Christians should have so little idea of a sense of God-given self that they spend precious time and energy arguing over who has precedence ‘at table’ and looking for a tribal identity - external bolsters of self worth.

Go visit those in need and do good ( see the N T ).👍
 
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