So...help? I am SO dern scared

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Yeah, this? This is wjy I’m scared tishless D : Thanks
There’s really no reason to be scared of anything. You don’t even need to fear the unknown, because you can improve your knowledge to better prepare yourself for marriage.

I don’t know what marriage prep you have done so far, but do make sure you have a thorough understanding of the sacrament of marriage itself, and the teachings of theology of the body, and how they are integral to each other.

Also, protect yourself from falling into the secular “children are inconvenient” mentality. I’m not saying you think that way, but our secular culture does, and we need to be clear on understanding why exactly we as Catholics do not.

NFP used medical and scientific knowledge. But the use of NFP requires discernment and faith in God. Discernment because that is how you will determine whether you should try to conceive or not at any given time, and what you are called to do. Faith in God, because you need to know that even if you are surprised with a blessing that you might have have completely planned, know that He did. He has a plan for your marriage, and will call you to it on His terms and with His timing.
 
Hi there!

I’ve had a very positive experience with NFP so far. Before I got pregnant I used to have a very regular cycle and thus didn’t use a method except counting days until my ovulation. Husband and I would abstain between day 11 and 17. I could always feel my ovulation so I was confident about where I was in my cycle. I’m now going to start using the Bilings method because that is the only one that I can learn about here where i live.

NFP is great because you work with your body, follow its rhythm. Some couples struggle with days of abstinence but that has never been an issue in my marriage. We don’t have to do it every day :o

So, if i were you I’d start charting your cycle now. Choose a method and really learn what it requires. If your periods are regular it will be really easy.
 
Yeah, this? This is wjy I’m scared tishless D : Thanks
So, why don’t you educate yourself by learning one of the methods and charting. If you just sit around doing nothing it won’t improve your situation.
 
Hi there!

I’ve had a very positive experience with NFP so far. Before I got pregnant I used to have a very regular cycle and thus didn’t use a method except counting days until my ovulation. Husband and I would abstain between day 11 and 17. I could always feel my ovulation so I was confident about where I was in my cycle. I’m now going to start using the Bilings method because that is the only one that I can learn about here where i live.

NFP is great because you work with your body, follow its rhythm. Some couples struggle with days of abstinence but that has never been an issue in my marriage. We don’t have to do it every day :o

So, if i were you I’d start charting your cycle now. Choose a method and really learn what it requires. If your periods are regular it will be really easy.
Right, the more regular you are, the easier it is. But if you are irregular, don’t be discouraged! NFP does not require a regular cycle. You will just need to pay more attention, and when you chart, consider the chart for that cycle in it’s own context.

Also, a good thing to know is that a woman’s luteal phase (that’s the last phase, beginning with ovulation and ending when your period (new cycle) starts) will generally be the same with every cycle. Most women are 12-14 days, I think. It has to be at least 10 in order to conceive. So, once you know when you ovulated, you know when your period is due to come. If you are charting your BBT, once your chart indicates that ovulation has already happened (you usually can observe it the next day, with a higher BBT) it is too late to conceive in that cycle. Syri, you want, send me a PM and I can send you a link to my chart and explain it a little better. Anyway, while your luteal phase will always be the same, you may not always ovulate on the same day of each cycle. Things like sickness or stress can postpone it. I have had that happen at least once. So, if your period is “late” it’s because you ovulated late, and the period came the same number of days after your ovulation. So knowing when you ovulated is also good for knowing when to expect your period, so you have no inconvenient surprise period.
 
Yeah, this? This is wjy I’m scared tishless D : Thanks
…why, exactly, are you so scared? Having a baby isn’t the end of the world. I totally understand the fear of the unknown. But I don’t see why, if you and your future husband love each other and you’re both truly open to life, that having children should be such a terrifying prospect. If getting pregnant would throw your life into such disorder, then it might be wiser for you to wait a while before getting married.

I would say, in addition to all the great advice you’ve gotten on educating yourself, work on trusting in God also and recognizing children as the blessing they are. Just a thought. Lord knows it’s something I’ve had to work hard on myself. 😛
 
One comment on NFP killing sex drive-- I think nothing could be further from the truth. The pill completely kills the female libido with hormones, and barrier methods are gross and unappealing. My dh would rather abstain than have relations with a barrier method. It’s really that bad.

When you abstain for ~10 days, it makes you really look forward to the time you do come together. It no longer becomes a “routine” and boring thing to do. As a wife, I feel much more cherished doing NFP than I ever felt when I was on the pill.
 
One comment on NFP killing sex drive-- I think nothing could be further from the truth. The pill completely kills the female libido with hormones, and barrier methods are gross and unappealing. When you abstain for ~10 days, it makes you really look forward to the time you do come together. It no longer becomes a “routine” and boring thing to do. As a wife, I feel much more cherished doing NFP than I ever felt when I was on the pill.
I completely agree with this. Unfortunately, I used to be on the pill for a few years. it was awful. Even if we were allowed to use artificial contraception I would definitely not go near it. It completely reduces relations between husband and wife to soulless sex.

Before I got married I was very scared of having children. I think we’ve been taught such negative attitudes towards children and motherhood that no wonder so many women dread the prospect. My baby is 7 months old now and I have never been happier. Children are such joy. It’s 100% work and 100% love. Even if you conceive by accident it won’t be the end of the world. It has happened to several of my friends (even to those on ABC) and they are all very happy to be mothers. It is a very natural thing and absolutely amazing. Being pregnant made me feel in awe of God’s love for us and I became aware that He chose me to participate in His creation by giving birth to a child. I know this sounds a bit cheesy, but it was a very spiritual experience.

I understand your thread is about NFP but it is so important that women re-establish the connection between love, marriage and sexuality in this fundamental Catholic way, and move away from secular ideologies that see pregnancy and motherhood as things that are not supposed to happen unless we plan them with military precision. Giving up that mentality made such a change in my life.

I really hope that NFP will be something that will make you feel close to your husband and make you appreciate amazing things that your body does,and not be a source of stress and anxiety.

So don’t worry, start charting and put your trust in God. He only wants the best for you, right? 👍
 
Syri,

I have a lot of experience with charting my cycles, but when it comes to being sexually active and following the rules to avoid pregnancy, my husband only attempted to avoid for two cycles. What I can say is that when we used the fertile time, we got pregnant right away.

My parents switched to NFP during their marriage and I am aware that they started trying for a child right after that. However, after they had my sister, they really struggled to avoid getting pregnant. My mom had two miscarriages inbetween my sister and my brother and they’re about 2 and a half years apart. My mom also had other health concerns and had trouble carrying to term with both my sister and my brother. She was told by her doctor that if she got pregnant again after my brother that it’d put her life seriously at risk and at that point my parents didn’t feel confident with the method anymore. I had expressed my concerns with my parents a bit because the statistics and their experience seemed so contradictory. Anyway, my Dad admitted to me (and this is almost two decades after my brother was born) that he is sure that they could have made NFP work had they tried hard enough and been more willing to sacrifice. The impression I get from my mom is that she was very confused about her fertility and did not yet understand how to chart correctly, so they gave up.

To be honest, with talking to some of my other friends who use NFP, I can say this. I’m confident that the method is effective. However I know the studies on the user effectiveness are around the range of the user effectiveness of condoms which surprisingly is around the 70%. The only method of avoid pregnancy while having some sexual activity in your life is hormonal methods which may be getting their additional effectiveness not from the fact that conception is being prevented, but because the child is not able to implant itself in the uterus and thus dies (making it abortificant). Granted sterilization I think its about as effective as hormonal methods as well.

But I think the point is that if we want to do this in a moral way, we need to recognize that we’re only reducing our chances of becoming pregnant. Being sexually active at all is going to make what is now impossible, possible. So while you may have a serious reason to avoid, you need to surrender some of that fear to God. However much we want to divorce our fertility from our sexuality, it isn’t something that can be divorced. Heck, when we were trying to avoid, it became so apparant to me that sex is aimed at getting women pregnant, that I seriously think women do indeed go through heat. I mean, the best sex you’re going to have I truly believe is on your fertile days. Everything about the intimacy and pleasure and unity started seeming to me to be intimately connected to fertility. These are separate things. You need to learn to accept that. So definitely we can have the need to space children and we can use NFP for that, but we need to also be open to pregnancy and not be so demanding about our will. Trust God.
 
So, i just need the advice of omen who use it, have gone through it. is it REALLY, HONESTLY and TRULY effective? Do you feel comfortable with it’s effectiveness? What are it’s biggest drawbacks?
I can definitely relate to you not knowing any women who use NFP. Like you, I have Catholic parents. They always told me that NFP was the right way to do things, but when I got to be an adult, mom told me that they’d actually used condoms for years! Same with my inlaws. That definitely added to a fear of it not working–why else would my own Catholic parents not use it when they knew better? I understand your fear of it not working–I had the same uneasiness with it when I first decided to learn. But after reading through the material and getting some instruction on it, that fear subsided because I could tell that NFP was actually pretty scientific. That is, there are specific things that a woman’s body does when it’s fertile. Yes, NFP is honestly, truly effective as long as you follow the rules. It’s more effective than ABC, even. I’m very comfortable using it. I’ll admit that the first couple of months, I’d start getting a little antsy waiting for my period to start. But whenever that happened, I could go look at my chart and be reassured that I’d followed the rules. I don’t worry about it at all now.

As far as drawbacks go, there is the obvious abstinence issue. Some people have more trouble getting control over their sexual urges than others do. My husband was one of those who was not happy with the idea of abstinence when we first learned. But he’s worked very hard at it, and says he’s perfectly ok with it now. Periodic abstinence was never a problem for me, and I never saw it as a “drawback.” In practice, we both learned that it’s really not a drawback at all. It’s important that married couples learn how to say “I love you” to each other in more than just sexual ways. Using NFP, I feel so much more loved and respected. In all honesty, our sex life has actually *improved *a great deal since learning NFP. We’re both more appreciative of the gift of sex now.

The only other minor drawback I can think of has to do with the charting of it. The first couple of months, both my husband and I almost always had this calendar in our heads. It was almost like we felt we “had” to have sex while on our free days, because we’d be wishing we had when we were back on abstinence time. After gaining some understanding, the calendar went away. Part of the beauty (I think) of having the abstinence is that when that time is over, you both will experience a bit of an increased libido. We both appreciate each other much more now. So it’s really not a “drawback” maybe just a learning curve. We had to learn to trust in God and in the method of it.

The most important thing is that you have to put your trust in God. Sometimes, even with your best efforts to avoid pregnancy, God will bless you with a baby anyways, and you should be willing to accept it. That is just part of the territory that comes with having sex. You have to trust that God won’t give you more to handle than you can deal with, and trust that He will help you raise even a surprise baby. Before I learned NFP, I had two surprise babies! The timing wasn’t perfect with either of them–I had to finish going to school with a toddler and being pregnant. I guess the way I saw it, I’d had two surprises on ABC, which wasn’t good for my soul; I had nothing to lose by learning NFP. I decided to stop using ABC and put my trust in God instead. I’ve used NFP for about two years now, and it’s one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.
 
I would look into several methods and research them to figure out which works best for you. Then start charting and practicing now so you don’t have to scramble to learn it while planning a wedding or after getting married. I loved the book “Taking Charge of your Fertility” I know many here don;t like it because the author isn’t catholic so she does say if you are going to have sex on your fertiile days you should use a barrier method. However you can disregard her advice on that piece. Her advice on charting and such is actually good.

My cycles are very regular and my temp charts are textbook so NFP worked great for us. We used to avoid for about 2 years and then to target the right days (1st time and we were pregnant). My best friend used it for about 4 years to avoid and then she to got pregnant the 2nd month they tried.

I personally believe that it helps in many ways. You understand your body better. I knew that morning if my period was going to start that day, which is nice rather than it being a surprise. You are forced to develop other methods of being intimate with your husband that are not sexually oriented. It helped my husband and I develop a deeper emotional and spiritual bond because the focus of our relationship was on us as whole individuals not just on sex.

One word of caution…you have to follow the rules of whatever method you pick and you can’t cut corners. After our daughter was born I kinda just counted days and didn’t chart or anything. It worked OK because I have really regular cycles, until I went on a 5 day vacation with my mom and forgot to count those days…needless to say we are expected our son abut 6 months earlier than we had planned planned. It’s not the end of the world, and has turned out to be a blessing in disguise…but I was pretty upset when I took the test, there was a lot of yelling and crying involved. This could have been because it was 3 days before we were scheduled to move houses and I was pretty stressed out. Anyway, it is actually working out fine, but it was a bit of a shock at the first. Needless to say there will be charting and strict adherance to the rules after our son is born.

So I’m a fan of NFP. I’m also Lutheran (husband is Catholic), so I have no moral issues with barrier methods, but I have found that NFP is really one of the best healthiest options out there.

Good luck and congrats on finding a man you love.
 
If you’re totally devoted to it NFP can be very effective. Again, if you are totally devoted to it and follow it to the letter. Some find it a real mood killer, a bother, etc. and resort to other methods. Some don’t fully commit to it. Overall, for all those who use NFP not just those who are total devotees, the effectiveness is about 75%-85% Trying to predict the timing of a biological system is never as easy as it sounds. Antihistamines, antibiotics, diuretics, infections, cough medicine, STDS, vitamins, weight gain, any number of hormonal issues and or drugs, and stress can all change the nature of cervical mucus.

I wouldn’t discourage you from using it. But if you are going to and NEED it to be reliable birch control, you need to commit to it.
 
Here are some actual pregnancy rate statistics from Marquette University…

Pregnancy rate over one year
by family planning method *
Correct Use Typical Use
Chance 85 85
Spermicides 18 29
Withdrawal 4 27
Ovulation Method 3 19 (25)
Condoms 2 15
SDM 5 12
Marquette Method 0.6-2 11-12
Symptothermal 0.4-2 8 -11
Pill 0.3 8
IUD 0.1 0.6

*Adapted from: Trussell J.
Contraceptive failure in the United States.
Contraception. 2004;70:89-96.

From: nfp.marquette.edu/efficacy.php

(sorry the chart didn’t copy and paste very well)
 
If you are really terrified of pregnancy that if will affect your sex life negatively even if you are an expert at NFP.

I would try to find a way to be comfortable with the idea of pregnancy so that your sex life isn’t fraught with anxiety.
 
If you are really terrified of pregnancy that if will affect your sex life negatively even if you are an expert at NFP.

I would try to find a way to be comfortable with the idea of pregnancy so that your sex life isn’t fraught with anxiety.
I agree. Acknowledge that you would like to wait a few years but be prepared that anytime you have sex…you run the risk however small of getting pregnant. This would be true even if you were using ABC. No method is perfect except not having sex…unless your name is Mary and you lived 2000 years ago in Nazareth, in which case you’re gonna have a baby like it or not.

You can minimize the risk by using NFP but you can’t ever eliminate them all together.

Besides from an extremely high strung mom who went through both PPD and Post Partum Anxiety…Kids are pretty cool. Most of the time 😉
 
No, I’m not afraid of having a child, or of being “inconvenienced,” just of, like y’all said, the unknown. Mostly I feel that the lack of support from my family is discouraging me; no one I kno seems to undestand why this is so important to me
 
No, I’m not afraid of having a child, or of being “inconvenienced,” just of, like y’all said, the unknown. Mostly I feel that the lack of support from my family is discouraging me; no one I kno seems to undestand why this is so important to me
Reach out to the women of your parrish. They can be a wealth of support and information. Also pray, that helped me through a lot of the times when my daughter was tiny and I was so scared and unsure of myself. I’m Lutheran and reading and praying about Mary actually helped a lot. I figure she had to do this all alone, and very young, she gave birth in a barn, and in additiohn to being afraid of making mistakes she had the added weight of knowing she was raising God’s son. That can’t have lessened the pressure at all. I always took comfort in the fact that even she and Joseph made mistakes…they lost Jesus for like 4 days and everything still turned out OK. Can you imagine that conversation…Mary “Honey where’s Jesus” Joseph “I don’t know I thought he was with you” “I thought he was with you” “Oh no…we lost the Messiah” 😛
That had to have been ackward. At least you only have to eventually raise normal kids.
 
Open your mind to learning the ins-and-outs of NFP, and open your heart to God’s plan for your life.

❤️

NFP is very effective!! One time I did try to stretch the rules (after we had been married about 9 years) and I conceived a precious little girl who is pulling at my shirt right now.

God had a plan, though. It took me about that long to finally trust in Him!
 
I always took comfort in the fact that even she and Joseph made mistakes…they lost Jesus for like 4 days and everything still turned out OK. Can you imagine that conversation…Mary “Honey where’s Jesus” Joseph “I don’t know I thought he was with you” “I thought he was with you” “Oh no…we lost the Messiah” 😛
LOL!!
 
No, I’m not afraid of having a child, or of being “inconvenienced,” just of, like y’all said, the unknown. Mostly I feel that the lack of support from my family is discouraging me; no one I kno seems to undestand why this is so important to me
I totally understand. My husband and I had made the decision to be open to a pregnancy and got pregnant, but our circumstances weren’t the greatest. My husband didn’t have permanant employment and we were finding that my medical insurance had no true in network providers for me to see. Supposed this was supposed to be resolved with GAP coverage, but they kept denying me GAP coverage because their system still showed some medical professionals in network in the area that simply hadn’t had their addresses updated in the computer system. Meanwhile, both hospitals in the area were out of network and everyone I talked to acted like “I’ve never seen this happen before that there are no hospitals innetwork in the area.” and they couldn’t figure out how to resolve that problem beyond “call this number and see if you can change the plan you’re under” of which when I called there was no plan for me to change to. So I had insurance, but it was like having none.

We did eventually work out the situation and get it fixed, but it was a huge hassle and very frightening. It also delayed when I finally started seeing someone for prenatal care.

Anyway, every time I talked to relatives, I deep down felt like they were all looking at me as proof that NFP had failed and that they were getting angry with the Church because obviously my obedience was causing my husband and I suffering in their eyes. I felt this perpetual need to tell them that NFP hadn’t failed, but then I started feeling like they’d view me as being wreckless and stupid which made me constantly want to go into our motivations for using that fertile time to show them “Look we’re being responsible. You don’t understand.”

But people have overall been supportive of us in this pregnancy and excited. Most people just chalk it up to the fact that I’m 30 so of course I wouldn’t want to wait till I get any older to start a family. But I worry about when our family gets real large. Its not easy and I’m a woman who needs people to remind me that I can do things and that things are going to be ok. I mean, I worry a lot. I need help trusting God sometimes. When I hear people tell me I can’t possibly do something, its so discouraging. Granted, then I think of the fact that I know a number of large families who somehow financially make it by, and then I talk to people with smaller families who insist that’s impossible and no matter what examples I give the answer always comes back as “Well they must have gotten lucky. You can’t live your life like that though.” That’s when the story comes out about the person who keeps praying for God to save him when there is a flood and rejecting all the boats that come about till finally the person drowns and asks God “Why didn’t you save me?” only to find out that all the boats that came about that he had rejected had been sent by God.

There are days I wished I lived in an era before contraceptives. Too many people see having children as something completely within your control and not as gifts. In my mind, I can only increase or decrease the chances of getting pregnant. I can’t control if I become pregnant or not though. And honestly that story just comes across as someone telling me “No, God’s not going to help you find the resources to take care of this baby. You were irresponsible and are refusing to accept the help in the form that God provides, so you’ll just deal with the consequences of that choice.” I mean, seriously there are too many people who see it as your responsibility to use contraceptives, as if contraceptives were some God-given invention.
 
There are days I wished I lived in an era before contraceptives. Too many people see having children as something completely within your control and not as gifts. In my mind, I can only increase or decrease the chances of getting pregnant. I can’t control if I become pregnant or not though. And honestly that story just comes across as someone telling me “No, God’s not going to help you find the resources to take care of this baby. You were irresponsible and are refusing to accept the help in the form that God provides, so you’ll just deal with the consequences of that choice.” I mean, seriously there are too many people who see it as your responsibility to use contraceptives, as if contraceptives were some God-given invention.
Try not to worry so much about what other people might be thinking. When your child is born, she will be part of the family, and no one will be thinking about how she was conceived. 🙂

Anyway, you know and I know that God has had a plan for your child, right from the moment of Creation, billions of years ago - He will not fail to provide her with what she really needs - and you, too. 🙂
 
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