So let's talk about today's readings 7/14/09

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“Seeing that he was a goodly child, she hid him for three months”
What is the opposite of a “goodly” child? What if Moses hadn’t been “goodly”?

“…who adopted him as her son and called him Moses”
I wonder what his real parents named him? How in the world did she explain to
Moses that he would go live here with other parents now, and have a new name?
Was there a set age back then that a child was weaned?

It seems like he was raised always knowing he was adopted, not like the movie.
They sure made a long movie, compared to the amount of scripture they had to
work with…

“you who seek God, may your hearts revive!
For the LORD hears the poor” –
Even the wealthiest person is poor, compared to heaven!
The psalm seems to assume that those who seek the Lord have heavy
hearts that need to be revived…

“if the mighty deeds done in your midst
had been done in Tyre and Sidon,
they would long ago have repented in sackcloth and ashes”
—Then why didn’t He do mighty deeds there instead?

“For if the mighty deeds done in your midst had been done in Sodom,
it would have remained until this day.”
—Then why didn’t He do mighty deeds there? He could have done any mighty
deeds He wanted to, even if He wasn’t born yet…

“Will you be exalted to heaven?
You will go down to the netherworld”

Jesus pronounces sentence on Capernaum, where He spent most of His time.
He never says anyone else is lost, except for Judas…

Today is the day of Kateri Tekakwitha & Camillus de lellis

So what struck you about todays readings (or saints)? :bible1::twocents:
 
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“if the mighty deeds done in your midst
had been done in Tyre and Sidon,
they would long ago have repented in sackcloth and ashes”
—Then why didn’t He do mighty deeds there instead?

“For if the mighty deeds done in your midst had been done in Sodom,
it would have remained until this day.”
—Then why didn’t He do mighty deeds there? He could have done any mighty
deeds He wanted to, even if He wasn’t born yet…
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The mighty deeds (miracles) Jesus performed played a major part in bringing the people to recognize that He was someone more than ordinary man. If such deeds became the norm, there would have been nothing special to point to Jesus as someone beyond what had previously occurred in God’s relationship with the Israelites.

There are only three other persons, prior to Jesus, that come to my mind as being miracle workers: Moses, Elijah, and Elisha. With them however, it was obvious the source of power did not arise from them, but from God.
[EG:
Moses’ words to Pharaoh identifying the source (cf Ex 5:1); lightnings, thunders, in the desert crossing, etc.
Elijah 1 Kings 17:21; 18:36
Elisha 2 Kings 4:32; 4:43]

But with Jesus, He, this “man”, was the source of the power.
8:1 When he came down from the mountain, great crowds followed him; 8:2 and behold, a leper came to him and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, if you will, you can make me clean.” 8:3 And he stretched out his hand and touched him, saying, "I will; be clean." And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Now,* this was the really new sign that they should have recognized.*
It could not have been done in the days of Sodom, Tyre and Sidon because there was as yet no Incarnation – no man who was God and could perform deeds on His own power.
Cheeto,
Just a P.S.:
Love your threads and your questioning thoughts especially. They serve as a catalyst for me and often lead me to new thoughts and insights (for example, my above post).
Am not on the forum as much lately, but do like to check your threads. Keep up the good work.
Thanks,
Nita
 
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It could not have been done in the days of Sodom, Tyre and Sidon because there was as yet no Incarnation
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O.k. I see your point, I really do. But Jesus didn’t say “If I had been there”, He
just said “if the deeds were done”… so He waited all that time until He came to
earth to do these things for Capernaum, and now says of them “You will go down
to the Netherworld”. Did He know that before He bothered working miracles there?

p.s. - thank you for the compliment, and for you sharing your insight on this,
especially, "If such deeds became the norm, there would have been nothing special to point to Jesus as someone beyond what had previously occurred in God’s relationship with the Israelites.
 
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